Make this Jamaicans go sit down

[cic old boy]

Carl Lewis is a disgrace... I am surprised he wasn't tested enough back in the days... What a bloody joker.

Lewis failed a dope test in the 88 Olympics trials and it was covered up by the US athletic federation.

[1naija]

This is why they have to be very very very fast. Even faster than normal.

Jamaican sprinter Yohan Blake wore a custom $500,000 watch in the 100, and the IOC is not happy

By Cameron Smith



In fewer than 24 hours, Jamaican sprinter Yohan Blake could be a gold medalist in the 200-meter sprint, if he can find a way to top Usain Bolt. Yet Blake's wrist might get much more attention from the International Olympic Committee than Bolt's entire body thanks to something Blake wore during the 100 final: A custom, $500,000 watch made by designer Richard Mille.


Yohan Blake's $500,000 watch — Getty Images

As reported by Britain's TNT Magazine and a handful of other English sources, the watch, which you can see in the photo on the right, is a customized sports watch in the green and yellow colorway of the Jamaican flag. Officially, the timepiece is called a Richard Mille Tourbillion watch, and the one-of-a-kind piece of functional jewelry was designed specifically for Blake to wear at the Games.

Blake followed through on his part of the bargain, wearing the watch during the semifinals and finals of the 100-meter dash, an event in which he finished second, behind countryman and world-record holder Usain Bolt.

Yet that has infuriated IOC officials, who have phenomenally strict regulations about what athletes are allowed to wear while competing at the Games. According to strict sponsorship regulations, Olympic athletes are only allowed to wear gear that is part of their country's sponsored apparel.

Similarly, if athletes use a piece of equipment that isn't strictly clothing, they are required to use the official sponsor of the Olympics in that category.

Omega is the official watchmaker of the Olympic Games. Richard Mille is not. That may create a very large problem for Blake, who could now be facing a significant fine as he prepares for his final individual event of the London Games.

It's worth noting that this isn't the first time Mille has sponsored a major athlete at a significant event.

In June, Rafael Nadal wore a $525,000 Mille Tourbillion watch during a match at the French Open. Similarly, American golfer Bubba Watson wore a $525,000 Tourbillion during a PGA event, drawing the ire of commenters on a handful of golf blogs.

Yet neither Nadal nor Watson was facing any kind of a fine for their watch antics. Blake is, and could find out as soon as Thursday what kind of punitive fines he'll be handed for wearing an unsanctioned watch.

After all, the IOC has to act fast, or else Blake could wear the watch again during the 200-meter final Thursday night. You might even say the IOC is on the clock ... whether it's made by Omega, Richard Mille or anyone else.

[Godfather]

Naija will start being relevant if and when they doing things right and step a tad bit away from ITK, that means channeling all their energy into the things that matters most. PREPARATION, COMPETING AND WINNING!!!!!

[mcal]

...until the yanks (the cry babies) raise issues with bolt everyone should hush. They are more fixated with main competition, China.

[cic old boy]

[/video]

[phantomjournalist]

Blake would have made an excellent running back in the NFL with his speed, power and low center of gravity.

[Godfather]

This is why they have to be very very very fast. Even faster than normal.

Jamaican sprinter Yohan Blake wore a custom $500,000 watch in the 100, and the IOC is not happy

By Cameron Smith



In fewer than 24 hours, Jamaican sprinter Yohan Blake could be a gold medalist in the 200-meter sprint, if he can find a way to top Usain Bolt. Yet Blake's wrist might get much more attention from the International Olympic Committee than Bolt's entire body thanks to something Blake wore during the 100 final: A custom, $500,000 watch made by designer Richard Mille.


Yohan Blake's $500,000 watch — Getty Images

As reported by Britain's TNT Magazine and a handful of other English sources, the watch, which you can see in the photo on the right, is a customized sports watch in the green and yellow colorway of the Jamaican flag. Officially, the timepiece is called a Richard Mille Tourbillion watch, and the one-of-a-kind piece of functional jewelry was designed specifically for Blake to wear at the Games.

Blake followed through on his part of the bargain, wearing the watch during the semifinals and finals of the 100-meter dash, an event in which he finished second, behind countryman and world-record holder Usain Bolt.

Yet that has infuriated IOC officials, who have phenomenally strict regulations about what athletes are allowed to wear while competing at the Games. According to strict sponsorship regulations, Olympic athletes are only allowed to wear gear that is part of their country's sponsored apparel.

Similarly, if athletes use a piece of equipment that isn't strictly clothing, they are required to use the official sponsor of the Olympics in that category.

Omega is the official watchmaker of the Olympic Games. Richard Mille is not. That may create a very large problem for Blake, who could now be facing a significant fine as he prepares for his final individual event of the London Games.

It's worth noting that this isn't the first time Mille has sponsored a major athlete at a significant event.

In June, Rafael Nadal wore a $525,000 Mille Tourbillion watch during a match at the French Open. Similarly, American golfer Bubba Watson wore a $525,000 Tourbillion during a PGA event, drawing the ire of commenters on a handful of golf blogs.

Yet neither Nadal nor Watson was facing any kind of a fine for their watch antics. Blake is, and could find out as soon as Thursday what kind of punitive fines he'll be handed for wearing an unsanctioned watch.

After all, the IOC has to act fast, or else Blake could wear the watch again during the 200-meter final Thursday night. You might even say the IOC is on the clock ... whether it's made by Omega, Richard Mille or anyone else.

[mcal]

This is why they have to be very very very fast. Even faster than normal.

Jamaican sprinter Yohan Blake wore a custom $500,000 watch in the 100, and the IOC is not happy

By Cameron Smith






Yohan Blake's $500,000 watch — Getty Images

...why black man, why??????? Too much materialism. And when someone rob am dem go how can.

[okjazz]

Jamos no longer fancy the US collegiate system b/c funding from sponsors has dried up after the Balco scandal.

The balco scandal has nothing to do with whether a Jamaican takes a scholarship. I am not sure what sponsorship has to do with it either. Elite Jamaican runners no longer go to US colleges because it can ruin your career. Even Kenya's own legend henry Rono saw his career destroyed by an overzealous coach at Washington state.

There is also the small matter of non-existent off-season testing in Jamaica.

If you look at IAAf statistics you will find that Russian, Jamaican and Kenyan athletes are the most tested by IAAF out of competition testing. Usain Bolt is tested by IAAF out of competition testing more than other runner.

Every 3 days someone comes on the forum and insists with finality that Bolt must be on drugs and each time the accuser has not been able to provide evidence. Yes its possible he is doping. But what evidence do you have ? There are many athletes out there who appear suspicious when their performance is analyzed: Abnormal progession, sudden change in body morphology etc. No one on CE has been able to make a convicing argument about why they think Bolt is on dope. All I see is generic statements like "All athletes are on dope......................"

[cic old boy]

The balco scandal has nothing to do with whether a Jamaican takes a scholarship. I am not sure what sponsorship has to do with it either. Elite Jamaican runners no longer go to US colleges because it can ruin your career. Even Kenya's own legend henry Rono saw his career destroyed by an overzealous coach at Washington state.

The Balco scandal has meant many sponsors have cut funding for US college track and field.

If you look at IAAf statistics you will find that Russian, Jamaican and Kenyan athletes are the most tested by IAAF out of competition testing. Usain Bolt is tested by IAAF out of competition testing more than other runner.

Not quite sure how frequently the IAAF conducts dope testing in Jamaica. There is a reason why dope testing is delegated to each country's authorities and involved bodies independent of athletics.

Drugs testing

UK Sport is the official sports body that governs drugs testing of athletes in the UK on a regular basis.[2] Testing is conducted by a Doping Control Officer (DCO) from Britain's National Anti-Doping Organisation (NADO). It is a subsection of the internationally recognised and authoritative World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). WADA is recognised by the Olympic Games and Commonwealth Games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Sport#Drugs_testing

Every 3 days someone comes on the forum and insists with finality that Bolt must be on drugs and each time the accuser has not been able to provide evidence. Yes its possible he is doping. But what evidence do you have ? There are many athletes out there who appear suspicious when their performance is analyzed: Abnormal progession, sudden change in body morphology etc. No one on CE has been able to make a convicing argument about why they think Bolt is on dope. All I see is generic statements like "All athletes are on dope......................"

You should have read all my posts here b/4 typing this. If you want conclusive evidence that Bolt is juiced up, you'd have to wait until he is caught. Many like you were saying the same ish about Marion Jones. Now Bolt is working with Jones's dope supplier and you are still playing ostrich.

[phantomjournalist]

Are collegiate athletes allowed to take financial sponsorship in the first place?

[cic old boy]

Yohan Blake failed a dope test in 2009 and he trains with Bolt. Things that make you go hmmm...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/08/ ... 5M20090818

[cic old boy]

Circumstantial evidence...

What Do Usain Bolt And Juan Manuel Marquez Have In Common? They Train With The Same Admitted Steroids Dealer

On Saturday, Juan Manuel Marquez will step into the ring for a third time against Manny Pacquiao. This time around, Marquez—who's moving up in weight for the fight—has a new physique. He has retained the services of Angel Hernandez, the strength and conditioning coach who has been working with Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt. Hernandez has been an omnipresent figure on 24/7, and Marquez's new bulk has been noted by viewers.

Then, last week, a bombshell came from BALCO founder Victor Conte. Angel Hernandez is the person formerly known as Angel "Memo" Heredia. Heredia, with a BALCO connection of his own, has been training both Marquez and Bolt under an assumed name.

In the US government's 2008 case against track coach Trevor Graham, stemming from the BALCO scandal, Memo Heredia was labeled "Source A." He didn't get that designation because he came first alphabetically. Heredia was the prosecution's star witness, and he gave up comprehensive documentation showing PED use by stars like Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin and C.J. Hunter. But Heredia wasn't just a random eyewitness; he was caught dead to rights as a steroid dealer and user, and testified to save his own skin.

In 2005 federal investigators confronted Heredia with evidence of money laundering and drug trafficking, and offered him a deal: Tell what you know or we'll go after you. He gave up everyone he worked with in US Track and Field, and despite claims he wasn't offered immunity, he has escaped prosecution himself. Graham was convicted of perjury and banned from the sport for life.

From a New York Times profile during the trial:

Mr. Heredia, a former Mexican national discus champion, is a secretive figure on the track circuit who describes himself as a chemist, scientist and nutritionist. The son of a chemist, Mr. Heredia received an undergraduate degree in kinesiology from Texas A&M in Kingsville, records show.

He said he used family connections to pharmacies and labs in Mexico to help his business. For years, Mr. Heredia said, he helped his clients flout the rules and easily avoided detection. Substances like human growth hormone and the blood booster erythropoietin, or EPO, are still virtually impossible to detect, and "it is still easy to use testosterone" with fast-acting creams, he said.

"You combine all these things - boom! - you get amazing results," Mr. Heredia said.

He would know. A 2009 German documentary shows Heredia purchasing banned drugs from pharmacies in Mexico City, and injecting himself in the stomach with PEDs. By then, the Trevor Graham trial was over, the government had no further need for him, and Heredia was free to get on with his life. It wouldn't be long before he signed on with Bolt and then Marquez.

No one knows why Conte, who's worked with Zab Judah in recent years, decided to get involved. But he's set the narrative for the final run-up to the fight. Hernandez/Heredia has gone on the defensive, explaining away his name change on 24/7.

"My name is this. My name is very long. My first name is Angel. I have a middle name, which is Guillermo. But in Mexico, they use 'Memo,' which is my nickname. Heredia, for some people, it's very difficult for them to catch up. You can ask anybody here in the media sometimes they call me Heredia. Dr. Heredia. For some reason, I told you guys Hernandez, and it was easier for you guys to write it down."

The whole thing is a mess. Conte is feuding with Pacquiao coach Alex Ariza, due to leftover bad blood from Judah's fight against Amir Khan (another Ariza guy) in July. Ariza is insinuating things about Marquez's association with Hernandez. ("I don't know how they're training him, and I don't know why Marquez got so big so fast.") Hernandez is threatening a defamation lawsuit against Ariza, but not against Conte.

Marquez's reputation is unlikely to take a hit, because steroid use in boxing sadly isn't a big issue unless it's holding up a Mayweather fight. Boxing ostensibly has some of the toughest testing procedures, so if someone's doping, the presumption is that it will come out after the bout.

"I've always been in favor of a clean sport," Hernandez said. "Let's submit to blood, urine, or fecal tests. Alex, I think the only person here who has doubts are you and Manny, because in the past people have solicited proof a thousand times to give blood and urine tests, and you have never wanted to do them."

Of course Hernandez knows better than most that the drugs are always a step ahead of the testing. So Marquez, or Pacquiao, or both could be dirty, and most likely we'd be none the wiser. In the sports where athletes' physiques stand the most to gain from steroids' benefits, it's easier to ignore the problem altogether than to get into messy rows like this one.

The more lasting drama will be in the world of sprinting. Usain Bolt, by dint of what we know about doping in track and his otherwordly performance in 2008, has already come under scrutiny. Carl Lewis questioned whether Bolt's times could be achieved naturally, as did a German sprinter who couldn't keep up with the Jamaican. So now he finds himself a year from the London Games, and he's training with a known steroid dealer and snitch who changed his name to avoid the spotlight. The Marquez-Pacquiao beef will be over this weekend, but Bolt's got eight months of answering questions about Angel Hernandez, né Heredia.

http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-usa ... ids-dealer

[Comrade Machel]

Personally i don't think Usain dopes but hey, i could be wrong


Having said that someone posted stats for 100m sprinters like 100 years ago and it seems the modern guys are like almost 3 seconds faster. Surely human physiology hasn't changed that much in 100 years. Even accounting for superior training 3 seconds is a bit too much. Its one those things that make you go mmmm

[okjazz]

The Balco scandal has meant many sponsors have cut funding for US college track and field.

First, Can you provide proof that funding cuts in college athletics have been due to the balco scandal ?

Secondly The sport of track and field at the collegiate level has never been a magnet for sponsors. Funding for most athletics programs comes from tax payer funds and from the money from sports that actually generate money such as basketball and gridiron football. College track and field is not popular enough to attract major sponsors. If schools had to depend on sponsors they would have shattered their programs long ago,. In my college days I attended track meets. The stadium was always 10% full, no sponsorship banners and nothing was televised. For this reason , Sponsors want nothing to with college track and field programs balco or not. The only track meets that attract sponsors are regional and national competitions.

Thirdly there are still dozens of Jamaican , Trinidadian and even Kenyan runners who come to the US on running scholarships. The difference now is that those coming are mostly second rate. Gone are the days when all the top Jamaican or top Kenyan runners would come to the US. If funding has been cut as you claim then why are the colleges still giving scholarships to second rate runners from overseas ?

Not quite sure how frequently the IAAF conducts dope testing in Jamaica. There is a reason why dope testing is delegated to each country's authorities and involved bodies independent of athletics.

IAAF has been conducting out of competition tests for nearly two decades now. As far back as 1992, Kenyan cross country runner John Ngugi was sanctioned by IAAF because he did not make himself available to two IAAF officials who showed up at his farm to conduct a random dope test. And this was two years after Ngugi had declared his retirement from international competition.

Here are the stats for IAAF out of competition testing in 2010
http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Antidop ... _23693.pdf

Secondly IAAf has been partnering with WADA to perform out of competition tests.

Thirdly IAAF is now using the biological passport which in amny ways is more effective than any kind of dope testing. Many runners have already been busted via this method

You should have read all my posts here b/4 typing this. If you want conclusive evidence that Bolt is juiced up, you'd have to wait until he is caught. Many like you were saying the same ish about Marion Jones. Now Bolt is working with Jones's dope supplier and you are still playing ostrich.

Marion Jones’s supplier was Victor Conte. Do you actually have proof that Bolt has been working with him ?

Posting an article from a rumour mongering blog like deadspin does not amount to proof. Most bloggers have no journalistic principles , don’t bother with true investigation and do not have editors. In fact they have neither the resources nor the will to do reall investigation. They write articles with a specific audience in mind. In this case their target audience is the people who badly want to believe that Bolt is doping.

Bolt is the most famous athlete on earth. I am sure that there are dozens of credible journalists from organizations like BBC, SI, AFP etc who have been investigating Bolt and his connections. Busting Bolt with conclusive proof will catapult the career of any journalist. So I am sure many are hard at work trying to expose Bolt. When one of them comes forward with well thought out , well investigated proof then lets talk. But posting stuff from a rumour mongering blog actually weakens your argument.


Also I am certain that if that deadspin story had any credibility at all, it would have been picked up by one of the major news outlets. So far I see that the only ones who have picked it up are other rumour mongering bloggers.

[anointed]

They can't all of a sudden be the fastest people in the world. Something aint right.

Enter 1Naija.

You've been missed in theses realms.

[wale1974]

Jamaicans again Gold, Silver and Bronze

[anointed]

I read somewhere that Bolt ran the 200m in 20.50 at 15 years. He used play cricket but his cricket coach suggested he took up running cos he was way too fast even for the cricket balls.

[cic old boy]

First, Can you provide proof that funding cuts in college athletics have been due to the balco scandal ?

Secondly The sport of track and field at the collegiate level has never been a magnet for sponsors. Funding for most athletics programs comes from tax payer funds and from the money from sports that actually generate money such as basketball and gridiron football. College track and field is not popular enough to attract major sponsors. If schools had to depend on sponsors they would have shattered their programs long ago,. In my college days I attended track meets. The stadium was always 10% full, no sponsorship banners and nothing was televised. For this reason , Sponsors want nothing to with college track and field programs balco or not. The only track meets that attract sponsors are regional and national competitions.

Thirdly there are still dozens of Jamaican , Trinidadian and even Kenyan runners who come to the US on running scholarships. The difference now is that those coming are mostly second rate. Gone are the days when all the top Jamaican or top Kenyan runners would come to the US. If funding has been cut as you claim then why are the colleges still giving scholarships to second rate runners from overseas ?

Funding being cut doesn't mean no funding. You know that, don't you?

Here's an interview with veteran Jamaican track and field coach Dennis Johnson:
Some of Jamaica's greatest athletes, including Herb McKenley, Donald Quarrie, Bertland Cameron, Merlene Ottey, Juliet Cuthbert, Grace Jackson and Deon Hemmings, came up through the competitive US college ranks.

But, Johnson pointed out, the stench of drugs in American athletics has alienated sponsors and administrators in that country.

"Track and field in the (United) States is not what it used to be. The drug thing has scared a lot of the colleges," Johnson said.

Traditional track powerhouses like San José State (Johnson's alma mater), University of Oregon, University of Nebraska (Ottey's old school) and New York Tech have either shut down or scaled back their programmes in the aftermath of the BALCO drug scandal that resulted in bans for high-profile athletes like Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2008 ... lead4.html

IAAF has been conducting out of competition tests for nearly two decades now. As far back as 1992, Kenyan cross country runner John Ngugi was sanctioned by IAAF because he did not make himself available to two IAAF officials who showed up at his farm to conduct a random dope test. And this was two years after Ngugi had declared his retirement from international competition.

Here are the stats for IAAF out of competition testing in 2010
http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Antidop ... _23693.pdf

Secondly IAAf has been partnering with WADA to perform out of competition tests.

Thirdly IAAF is now using the biological passport which in amny ways is more effective than any kind of dope testing. Many runners have already been busted via this method

I'll let Victor Conte break it down for you:

The IAAF - track's governing body - claims to rarely collect offseason samples for drug testing in Caribbean countries, mainly collecting out-of-competition (OOC) samples between competitions during the European track circuit from May until September of each year. In my opinion, this is basically a waste of funds and the same as in-competition testing because there is no routine offseason testing from October to January, when athletes who are cheating use steroids in combination with intensive weight training.

Testing at competitions - and in between - is flawed because athletes who are using drugs have already tapered off. The IOC claims to be doing 4,500 tests in Beijing, but there have been only a handful of positives. In 2007, at the World Track and Field Championships in Osaka, Japan they did more than 1,000 drug tests and had zero positives. The testers are basically wasting their money. Testing at competitions is more about propaganda. They should spend at least 50% of the available funds doing offseason testing on the home soil of targeted athletes, such as those in the Caribbean who are winning all the medals.

There is a desperate need for each of the Caribbean countries to have an independent and fully functioning anti-doping federation. Until that is the case, the sprinters from these countries are going to continue to be under a cloud of suspicion.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/$m.lo ... z23556sfAX

Marion Jones’s supplier was Victor Conte. Do you actually have proof that Bolt has been working with him ?

I don't really have time for people who can't be bothered to even read what has been posted. Angel Heredia worked with Conte and is now working with Bolt!

Posting an article from a rumour mongering blog like deadspin does not amount to proof. Most bloggers have no journalistic principles , don’t bother with true investigation and do not have editors. In fact they have neither the resources nor the will to do reall investigation. They write articles with a specific audience in mind. In this case their target audience is the people who badly want to believe that Bolt is doping.

Bolt is the most famous athlete on earth. I am sure that there are dozens of credible journalists from organizations like BBC, SI, AFP etc who have been investigating Bolt and his connections. Busting Bolt with conclusive proof will catapult the career of any journalist. So I am sure many are hard at work trying to expose Bolt. When one of them comes forward with well thought out , well investigated proof then lets talk. But posting stuff from a rumour mongering blog actually weakens your argument.


Also I am certain that if that deadspin story had any credibility at all, it would have been picked up by one of the major news outlets. So far I see that the only ones who have picked it up are other rumour mongering bloggers.

OK, bloggers all lie and you rely on the mainstream media for the truth. Which is why the venerable NYT was claiming Saddam had WMD, while bloggers were claiming it was all lies. It is why it was a blogger that broke the story of the stain in Monica Lewinsky's dress long b/4 the mainstream got onboard.

Let me tell you why the mainstream are slow to investigate Bolt. He is the biggest name in the sport. You'd struggle to sell the Olympics to Joe Public without its biggest name. They will milk the feel-good "freak of nature" story until a story like Balco breaks that they can't suppress. Instead of dismissing a story b/c it is from a blogger, you should be asking the critical questions: Is Angel Heredia working with Bolt? Why does a guy who claims his feats are natural need a chemist with a tarnished reputation? Why did Heredia change his name to Hernandez?

[smartbrother]

Track and Field is done if Bolt is dirty. I don't trust Blake one bit . Bolt clearly obviously benefits from unusual stride length and extraordinary natural talent. Blake on the other hand has explosive power similar to Gatlin's which just isnt natural imho.

[anointed]

They can't all of a sudden be the fastest people in the world. Something aint right.

something ain't right if you just started following T&F.

I once saw a Merlene Ottey (the mother of 'em all) race done while she was at the Uni of Nebraska or somewhere in 1977. No be today Jamo don dey run o.

[okjazz]

Funding being cut doesn't mean no funding. You know that, don't you?

Here's an interview with veteran Jamaican track and field coach Dennis Johnson:……………

This does not hold any water. Again there are second rate Jamaicans coming to USA on track scholarships. For petes sake there are even Zimbabwean and Kenyan sprinters coming to the top schools like LSU, UTEP and Florida state. If LSU and FSU which are the top schools are actively recruiting Zimbabwean, you think they would not want to recruit Jamaicans ?
Do you know that some division 1 schools actually have athletes on their roster who have not run under 11 seconds, talk less of 10.00 seconds. There is no shortage of athletics scholarships for people who can run and the amount of funding available for athletics is still good enough.

Traditional track powerhouses like San José State (Johnson's alma mater), University of Oregon, University of Nebraska (Ottey's old school) and New York Tech have either shut down or scaled back their programmes in the aftermath of the BALCO drug scandal that resulted in bans for high-profile athletes like Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

The mere fact that this author mentioned San Jose State , New York Tech and Nebraska as powerhouses shows he does not know anything about the sport. He is still living in the 1960s. None of those schools are powerhouses. The true powerhouses today are schools like LSU, FSU, USC etc. And they actively recruit from overseas. As I mentioned they are even recruiting from countries that have no sprinting tradition.
Even the top tier runners who want college scholarships get them easily. Kirani James was at the Univ of Alabama in 2011. Jonathan & kevin Borlee were at FSU in 2010. VCB and a host of other Jamaicans have been on college scholarships.
You provided as proof of yoru balco asertion an author who clearly does not know what is going on in athletics today. That severely weakens your arguments.

I'll let Victor Conte break it down for you:………………. there is no routine offseason testing from October to January,…………..

You have utterly disqualified your arguments by mentioning Victor Conte. He is a criminal who has absolutely no credibility. He has been going around telling anyone who would listen that all athletes are on dope. He is just bitter because his drug making operation was ended by USADA. If you are going to provide evidence you are going to have to use a credible witness, not someone with a big axe to grind. Nobody believes Victor Conte. He is known as a person who makes no bones about lying even going as far as lying under oath.

He is clearly lying when he says there is no routine testing in athletics between October and January because as I have posted above, the IAAF, WADA and other organizations do send testers to the Caribbean and Africa to test runners all year round.

OK, bloggers all lie and you rely on the mainstream media for the truth. Which is why the venerable NYT was claiming Saddam had WMD, while bloggers were claiming it was all lies. It is why it was a blogger that broke the story of the stain in Monica Lewinsky's dress long b/4 the mainstream got onboard.

I know the media lie. But there cannot be a conspiracy to protect bolt amongst all the media in the entire world. There are many Europeans who resent the fact that Jamaica dominates athletics. I struggle to believe that all these people have conspired to protect Bolt.

Let me tell you why the mainstream are slow to investigate Bolt. He is the biggest name in the sport. You'd struggle to sell the Olympics to Joe Public without its biggest name.

I am certain that the media will be able to sell the Olympics to the public with or without Bolt. In the UK they will focus on Jessica Ennis and their great cycling team. In America there is an endless array of Olympians considered likeable and are gold winning athletes like the gymnasts and the swimmers whom the media can use to draw audiences.

Is Angel Heredia working with Bolt? Why does a guy who claims his feats are natural need a chemist with a tarnished reputation? Why did Heredia change his name to Hernandez?

If you provide credible evidence that Bolt is indeed working with Heredia then you have a case. So far I have not seen any credible evidence that Heredia is Bolt’s dope supplier or that Bolt even works with Heredia. If Bolt were doping I doubt he would be careless enough to consider openly working a known drug supplier.

And to answer your question, I am not saying Bolt is innocent. My point is that people always come on CE to claim with finality that Bolt is doping. When challenged for evidence they provide no evidence or just provide rumours and innuendo.

[smartbrother]

is that really you Okjazz?

Funding being cut doesn't mean no funding. You know that, don't you?

Here's an interview with veteran Jamaican track and field coach Dennis Johnson:……………

This does not hold any water. Again there are second rate Jamaicans coming to USA on track scholarships. For petes sake there are even Zimbabwean and Kenyan sprinters coming to the top schools like LSU, UTEP and Florida state. If LSU and FSU which are the top schools are actively recruiting Zimbabwean, you think they would not want to recruit Jamaicans ?
Do you know that some division 1 schools actually have athletes on their roster who have not run under 11 seconds, talk less of 10.00 seconds. There is no shortage of athletics scholarships for people who can run and the amount of funding available for athletics is still good enough.

Traditional track powerhouses like San José State (Johnson's alma mater), University of Oregon, University of Nebraska (Ottey's old school) and New York Tech have either shut down or scaled back their programmes in the aftermath of the BALCO drug scandal that resulted in bans for high-profile athletes like Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

The mere fact that this author mentioned San Jose State , New York Tech and Nebraska as powerhouses shows he does not know anything about the sport. He is still living in the 1960s. None of those schools are powerhouses. The true powerhouses today are schools like LSU, FSU, USC etc. And they actively recruit from overseas. As I mentioned they are even recruiting from countries that have no sprinting tradition.
Even the top tier runners who want college scholarships get them easily. Kirani James was at the Univ of Alabama in 2011. Jonathan & kevin Borlee were at FSU in 2010. VCB and a host of other Jamaicans have been on college scholarships.
You provided as proof of yoru balco asertion an author who clearly does not know what is going on in athletics today. That severely weakens your arguments.

I'll let Victor Conte break it down for you:………………. there is no routine offseason testing from October to January,…………..

You have utterly disqualified your arguments by mentioning Victor Conte. He is a criminal who has absolutely no credibility. He has been going around telling anyone who would listen that all athletes are on dope. He is just bitter because his drug making operation was ended by USADA. If you are going to provide evidence you are going to have to use a credible witness, not someone with a big axe to grind. Nobody believes Victor Conte. He is known as a person who makes no bones about lying even going as far as lying under oath.

He is clearly lying when he says there is no routine testing in athletics between October and January because as I have posted above, the IAAF, WADA and other organizations do send testers to the Caribbean and Africa to test runners all year round.

OK, bloggers all lie and you rely on the mainstream media for the truth. Which is why the venerable NYT was claiming Saddam had WMD, while bloggers were claiming it was all lies. It is why it was a blogger that broke the story of the stain in Monica Lewinsky's dress long b/4 the mainstream got onboard.

I know the media lie. But there cannot be a conspiracy to protect bolt amongst all the media in the entire world. There are many Europeans who resent the fact that Jamaica dominates athletics. I struggle to believe that all these people have conspired to protect Bolt.

Let me tell you why the mainstream are slow to investigate Bolt. He is the biggest name in the sport. You'd struggle to sell the Olympics to Joe Public without its biggest name.

I am certain that the media will be able to sell the Olympics to the public with or without Bolt. In the UK they will focus on Jessica Ennis and their great cycling team. In America there is an endless array of Olympians considered likeable and are gold winning athletes like the gymnasts and the swimmers whom the media can use to draw audiences.

Is Angel Heredia working with Bolt? Why does a guy who claims his feats are natural need a chemist with a tarnished reputation? Why did Heredia change his name to Hernandez?

If you provide credible evidence that Bolt is indeed working with Heredia then you have a case. So far I have not seen any credible evidence that Heredia is Bolt’s dope supplier or that Bolt even works with Heredia. If Bolt were doping I doubt he would be careless enough to consider openly working a known drug supplier.

And to answer your question, I am not saying Bolt is innocent. My point is that people always come on CE to claim with finality that Bolt is doping. When challenged for evidence they provide no evidence or just provide rumours and innuendo.