[WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Not so fast. The last time your boys met Japan at the WC it was a 0-0 draw. This Japan team is miles ahead of that team
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Definitely.
But Spain has a style that is a bad match up for both Croatia and Morocco.
Croatia like to possess and counter, but Spain can really posses and limit chances.
Morocco likes to lay back even more in and then counter, but same applies, Spain can posses and tire Morocco dogged defense.
Were I a Morocco or Croatia fan, I'd rather play Japan than Spain.
Again, I am not taking Japan for granted. They beat Germany and Spain, a monster achievement. Run all day and counter with speed...but they don't have the same overall talent as other opponents in the 2nd round.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:23 pmNot so fast. The last time your boys met Japan at the WC it was a 0-0 draw. This Japan team is miles ahead of that team
And this Croatia is light years ahead of that crap Croatia team.
Nah. Think back to 1998 when Suker & Co beat Japan.
Jokes aside, I'll take Japan any day over Spain as an opponent.
I think so wold you.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Chief Coachito, txj is worse than a Quebecois. He is an Amelikan pretending to be an expat in "soccer." He thinks speaking the lingo equates to knowing the game.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:19 pm @Mazi, nonsense, if not mistaken, Tx is equally a Quebecian and collected his share in Canada’s ice hockey, sorry, game threads.
A whole Mazi hid amongst the maple leaves and having popped his head above the foliage, Bombs away Britain was on hand to issue the humdinger, just as “We” did in ‘45.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
No it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
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I just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Yep, Croatia knows how to deal with exuberance.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Did you see the view that lined up with the line? The bottom of the ball cleared the line but not the outmost edge.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:28 pmI just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
felarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 pmDid you see the view that lined up with the line? The bottom of the ball cleared the line but not the outmost edge.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:28 pmI just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
This is razor thin. The tech is better for this kind of call, but cannot be 100%.
I am not sure how you call that. I guess it came down to discretion or did they actually rely on the tech?
If discretion, well, it might be one of those times the bigger team didn't get the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Two angles (directly above and side-rear views) show the ball over the line. All other angles do not.
The Spanish feed keeps showing it.
Infantino looked concerned and uncomfortable.
The Spanish feed keeps showing it.
Infantino looked concerned and uncomfortable.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Not that I care about Germany being screwed. They have gotten away with murder at the WC many times, including when they conspired to eliminate Algeria in 1982 and when they almost killed a French player on the field
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No discretion. Postgame it was shown on my feed and it’s clear the ball did not clear the line.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:39 pmfelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 pmDid you see the view that lined up with the line? The bottom of the ball cleared the line but not the outmost edge.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:28 pmI just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
This is razor thin. The tech is better for this kind of call, but cannot be 100%.
I am not sure how you call that. I guess it came down to discretion or did they actually rely on the tech?
If discretion, well, it might be one of those times the bigger team didn't get the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
felarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:49 pmNo discretion. Postgame it was shown on my feed and it’s clear the ball did not clear the line.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:39 pmfelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 pmDid you see the view that lined up with the line? The bottom of the ball cleared the line but not the outmost edge.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:28 pmI just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
This is razor thin. The tech is better for this kind of call, but cannot be 100%.
I am not sure how you call that. I guess it came down to discretion or did they actually rely on the tech?
If discretion, well, it might be one of those times the bigger team didn't get the benefit of the doubt.
Fair enough. To my eye, it looks like it did cross the line...but this may not be the case for reasons discussed.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Just saw it again, it’s a VAR angle. Apparently the VAR has 70 camera angles.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:51 pmfelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:49 pmNo discretion. Postgame it was shown on my feed and it’s clear the ball did not clear the line.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:39 pmfelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 pmDid you see the view that lined up with the line? The bottom of the ball cleared the line but not the outmost edge.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:28 pmI just saw a comprehensive reply. The entire ball crossed the line. It wasn’t even closefelarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:27 pmNo it didn’t cross the line. The entire ball has to clear the line.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:21 pm The ball for Japan’s goal crossed the line before the cross. Replays show this clearly. Germany was screwed!!
This is razor thin. The tech is better for this kind of call, but cannot be 100%.
I am not sure how you call that. I guess it came down to discretion or did they actually rely on the tech?
If discretion, well, it might be one of those times the bigger team didn't get the benefit of the doubt.
Fair enough. To my eye, it looks like it did cross the line...but this may not be the case for reasons discussed.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Guys, this looks actually like it didn't go over the line:
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Tactical. It didn’t start todaydanfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:00 pmMake sure one of your toughest opponent is eliminated, and now you live to fight another day
Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
The ball didn't go over the line and Germany and the rest of Europe should please shut up.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
I got more clarity.
29+ cameras. Hawk-Eye between goal posts. Sensor tech in the ball as well.
But ultimately a VAR review decides. They are instructed to rule in play if not conclusive. That seems fair as it eliminates bias...well, it would be interesting if VAR officials disagreed with each other.
In this case, it seems the right call was made.
29+ cameras. Hawk-Eye between goal posts. Sensor tech in the ball as well.
But ultimately a VAR review decides. They are instructed to rule in play if not conclusive. That seems fair as it eliminates bias...well, it would be interesting if VAR officials disagreed with each other.
In this case, it seems the right call was made.
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
This Japan is no joke. Its a 50-50 match up
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
Based on your conspiracy theories, the call should've gone to the favored team, Spain, right?
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Re: [WC 2022} Japan vs Spain(2-1) Costa Rica vs Germany (2-4)
I agree.
But believe me, we have issues with Spain.
Even though Croatia doesn't put stock into National League, they beat us 6-1 a few years ago. Beat us in the Euro in OT.
We can get beat by Japan for sure. But I doubt we can lose 6-1. It's not that have no respect for Japan, as I know this will be a tight game. I just think we match up better in style.
Honestly, would you have your team playing Spain or Japan?
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