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txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Synopsis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:21 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:56 pm CAF must copy the South American world-cup qualifying format for 2026 .
2 groups of 10 teams each. The Top 4 qualifies and the 5th and 6th teams from each group will play for the 9th and continental playoff spot.

The winner joins the other 8 and the loser goes into the continental playoffs

This is a good idea. Knowing CAF, it will be some home/away type shiiit with away goal rule.

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:02 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Also, Nigeria, (6) Ghana,(4), and Cameroon (4) have won more games than Tunisia at the World Cup!

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:08 pm

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:02 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Also, Nigeria, (6) Ghana,(4), and Cameroon (4) have won more games than Tunisia at the World Cup!

Wonderful achievement for Africa….

packerland wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:05 pm

Synopsis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:21 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:56 pm CAF must copy the South American world-cup qualifying format for 2026 .
2 groups of 10 teams each. The Top 4 qualifies and the 5th and 6th teams from each group will play for the 9th and continental playoff spot.

The winner joins the other 8 and the loser goes into the continental playoffs

This is a good idea. Knowing CAF, it will be some home/away type shiiit with away goal rule.

The South American qualifying format I like but it favors teams with good local based players like some of our North American brothers. In the South American format they can play up to 3 games in a week. Imagine if a club like Napoli convinces a recently back from injury Osimhen not to join up with the NT, that is 3 crucial games we’ll play without our best player.

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:17 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:05 pm

Synopsis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:21 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:56 pm CAF must copy the South American world-cup qualifying format for 2026 .
2 groups of 10 teams each. The Top 4 qualifies and the 5th and 6th teams from each group will play for the 9th and continental playoff spot.

The winner joins the other 8 and the loser goes into the continental playoffs

This is a good idea. Knowing CAF, it will be some home/away type shiiit with away goal rule.

The South American qualifying format I like but it favors teams with good local based players like some of our North American brothers. In the South American format they can play up to 3 games in a week. Imagine if a club like Napoli convinces a recently back from injury Osimhen not to join up with the NT, that is 3 crucial games we’ll play without our best player.

That was only due to COVID! They only play two games during the FIFA window, 18 games total!

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01 am

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

Ah so that is what this was all about all along , the quest to agree with you

Perhaps you could have phrased your points differently on the first place

No one was disputing that Nigeria is not lousy except that our World Cup results are better than Tunisia , you projected that to mean we should have been at the WC and not Tunisia

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:01 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01 am

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

Ah so that is what this was all about all along , the quest to agree with you

Perhaps you could have phrased your points differently on the first place

No one was disputing that Nigeria is not lousy except that our World Cup results are better than Tunisia , you projected that to mean we should have been at the WC and not Tunisia

What twas all about is 20/20 vision about others and never about oneself

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:01 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01 am

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

Ah so that is what this was all about all along , the quest to agree with you

Perhaps you could have phrased your points differently on the first place

No one was disputing that Nigeria is not lousy except that our World Cup results are better than Tunisia , you projected that to mean we should have been at the WC and not Tunisia

What twas all about is 20/20 vision about others and never about oneself

This is where I disagree , at least from CE perspective, we are our biggest critic, if the Eagles were in the WC and they lost to Australia, this site will crash
Again, once can criticize others knowing that we are also bad, that was never in dispute, at least on this thread which was specifically about Tunisia

Don't miscontrue some people seeing things differently to you as those burying had in sand, we all have different ways of dealing with our situation (DNQ) but I assure you we are all fans and none of us really have direct impact on what is going on with our team, our rant notwithstanding

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:01 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01 am

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

Ah so that is what this was all about all along , the quest to agree with you

Perhaps you could have phrased your points differently on the first place

No one was disputing that Nigeria is not lousy except that our World Cup results are better than Tunisia , you projected that to mean we should have been at the WC and not Tunisia

What twas all about is 20/20 vision about others and never about oneself

This is where I disagree , at least from CE perspective, we are our biggest critic, if the Eagles were in the WC and they lost to Australia, this site will crash
Again, once can criticize others knowing that we are also bad, that was never in dispute, at least on this thread which was specifically about Tunisia

Don't miscontrue some people seeing things differently to you as those burying had in sand, we all have different ways of dealing with our situation (DNQ) but I assure you we are all fans and none of us really have direct impact on what is going on with our team, our rant notwithstanding

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:08 pm

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:02 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Also, Nigeria, (6) Ghana,(4), and Cameroon (4) have won more games than Tunisia at the World Cup!

Wonderful achievement for Africa….

akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:08 pm

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:02 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Also, Nigeria, (6) Ghana,(4), and Cameroon (4) have won more games than Tunisia at the World Cup!

Wonderful achievement for Africa….

Be consistent in your argument or at least state your motive from the get go

You started here ranting about why we are not in the position of criticising Tunisia because they qualified , after we dissected the logic you go on to claim Nigeria’s World Cup record is marginally better then Nigeria

Then we show you that actually it’s much better as we qualified for the round of 16 3x , topping our group twice , you go on to say what an achievement for Africa

Well, 3 African teams have made it to quarter finals , let me help you “what an achievement for Africa “

What is your issue, that we are sitting at home and have the gall to comment on a forum on another team’s performance or that Africa has underachieved, if it is both then be honest up front instead of reaching for new argument when your previous one was proven flawed

I’m sorry if you are expecting us to be in perpetual shame because we are short of our potential , perhaps a good advice is for you to grow a thicker skin

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:01 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01 am

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:59 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:35 pm Hmmm I am not so sure the Tunisian model is working for them, functional league, or not. We definitely perform better than them at all levels of the NT. It isn't even close. And yes, their record in the WC is absolutely shocking.

I know we are all hurt to be watching the WC from the outside, but there's no need to exaggerate any supposed Northern African superiority...there is none when it comes to the NT.

Precisely, this thread is about Tunisia and their lousy World Cup run not about Nigeria or how better Tunisia is than Nigeria , surely we can have both conversations

Nigeria sucks for not qualifying but Tunisia sucks for always qualifying and not putting up a fight at the big dance

Moral of the story is that they both suck.
Thanks for agreeing with me….

Ah so that is what this was all about all along , the quest to agree with you

Perhaps you could have phrased your points differently on the first place

No one was disputing that Nigeria is not lousy except that our World Cup results are better than Tunisia , you projected that to mean we should have been at the WC and not Tunisia

What twas all about is 20/20 vision about others and never about oneself

This is where I disagree , at least from CE perspective, we are our biggest critic, if the Eagles were in the WC and they lost to Australia, this site will crash
Again, once can criticize others knowing that we are also bad, that was never in dispute, at least on this thread which was specifically about Tunisia

Don't miscontrue some people seeing things differently to you as those burying had in sand, we all have different ways of dealing with our situation (DNQ) but I assure you we are all fans and none of us really have direct impact on what is going on with our team, our rant notwithstanding

txj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:45 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:08 pm

Undertaker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:02 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:41 pm

akamoke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm Txj

You seem to be arguing in an empty room because no one is disputing that Tunisia did not deserve to qualify for the World Cup , no one !!

What is in discussion here and indeed captured in the title of the thread is the non performance of Tunisia at World cups

I mean , Italy did not qualify for the World Cup but when they do , they have a track record

The issue here is World Cup performance not qualification performance

It’s only marginally worse than Nigeria or Cameroon or Ghanas performance.
So what is the point? We’re not as “worse” as you are “worse” ?

Also, Nigeria, (6) Ghana,(4), and Cameroon (4) have won more games than Tunisia at the World Cup!

Wonderful achievement for Africa….

Be consistent in your argument or at least state your motive from the get go

You started here ranting about why we are not in the position of criticising Tunisia because they qualified , after we dissected the logic you go on to claim Nigeria’s World Cup record is marginally better then Nigeria

Then we show you that actually it’s much better as we qualified for the round of 16 3x , topping our group twice , you go on to say what an achievement for Africa

Well, 3 African teams have made it to quarter finals , let me help you “what an achievement for Africa “

What is your issue, that we are sitting at home and have the gall to comment on a forum on another team’s performance or that Africa has underachieved, if it is both then be honest up front instead of reaching for new argument when your previous one was proven flawed

I’m sorry if you are expecting us to be in perpetual shame because we are short of our potential , perhaps a good advice is for you to grow a thicker skin

Its obviously both. Duh...

We're not much better than them. And that is my main point. We are NOT much better than them.
One can even argue that for their talent vis a vis ours, they are making more of it than we are...