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Yes I will take offence of course! I am African not European! Why should I give a F** about their fortunes.Ekorian wrote:Is Europe a country? Will you take offense in someone opening an Africa laughing thread?
Europe will ALWAYS have a handful of top performers obviously...however the question is......are the current allocations really justified. You cannot say that Netherlands or Germany shoulder the fortunes of the entire bloc....there ARE a lot of allocations here! The greatest of any confederation! So really when a lot of European countries do not perform, there must be accountability.mate wrote:Ok, in the spirit of Suarez, I'll bite and take the bait and defend Europe here.
European teams like Croatia, England, & Spain got properly flogged. No excuses. Not even the weather.
But look at EuroEuropee's other tier 1 teams. Italy unjustly got sent home. Give credit where it's due here.
Germany, France, Holland, and even Belgium aren't going to be easy to beat.
Who's going to knock them off? Brazil? Argentina? Perhaps Uruguay could, but now they don't have Suarez.
Much as I root for North American and African teams, I don't think that they can still win a WC...although the plot is thickening.
Cheers, Mate <--- Having a Count Dracula moment.
mate wrote:Ok, in the spirit of Suarez, I'll bite and take the bait and defend Europe here.
European teams like Croatia, England, & Spain got properly flogged. No excuses. Not even the weather.
But look at Europe's other tier 1 teams. Italy unjustly got sent home. Give credit where it's due here.
Germany, France, Holland, and even Belgium aren't going to be easy to beat.
Who's going to knock them off? Brazil? Argentina? Perhaps Uruguay could, but now they don't have Suarez.
Much as I root for North American and African teams, I don't think that they can still win a WC...although the plot is thickening.
Cheers, Mate <--- Having a Count Dracula moment.
Tbite wrote:Europe will ALWAYS have a handful of top performers obviously...however the question is......are the current allocations really justified. You cannot say that Netherlands or Germany shoulder the fortunes of the entire bloc....there ARE a lot of allocations here! The greatest of any confederation! So really when a lot of European countries do not perform, there must be accountability.mate wrote:Ok, in the spirit of Suarez, I'll bite and take the bait and defend Europe here.
European teams like Croatia, England, & Spain got properly flogged. No excuses. Not even the weather.
But look at EuroEuropee's other tier 1 teams. Italy unjustly got sent home. Give credit where it's due here.
Germany, France, Holland, and even Belgium aren't going to be easy to beat.
Who's going to knock them off? Brazil? Argentina? Perhaps Uruguay could, but now they don't have Suarez.
Much as I root for North American and African teams, I don't think that they can still win a WC...although the plot is thickening.
Cheers, Mate <--- Having a Count Dracula moment.
It is different with Africa...we have 5 slots...if Ghana or Nigeria do well...we can say...we are mostly doing well...you cannot say the same for Europe.....There is too much failure, the fail rate is just too high! Italy, Croatia, Bosnia, England, Spain...........it is too high! abeg FIFA reduce those allocations.
In danger are also Switzerland, Greece, Russia and Portugal! It does not look good at all!
Then earn it. You condemn Croatia, but ignore that we beat Cameroon. We also got shafted by the officials, not that this is an excuse. As did Italy.It is different with Africa...we have 5 slots...if Ghana or Nigeria do well...we can say...we are mostly doing well...you cannot say the same for Europe.....
nanijoe wrote:We are just not seeing a justification for the number of teams Europe has at the tournament...If we remove the top 6 or so teams, would you bet your house on a European minnow beating one from Concacaaf or Africa?
IS Greece for example better than Panama? Would england beat Cape Verde or Burkina Faso?
The fair thing for FIFA to do is to reduce Europe's guaranteed spots to something like 8, then have an intercontinental playoff for the remaining 4..btw I am ok with FIFA reducing Africa's guaranteed spots to 4 and adding the one spot to the playoff pool..
Tbite wrote:I agree that it should not be based on WC.....but at least I have started my campaign!
It is not 1 week before an election, that you starting pulling for votes.
If we want those allocations, we should start the campaign now! No hard feelings mate, this is not personal! Croatia were hard done by and I truly do feel your pain! I wish them all the best truly!
I am just doing a little bit of politics here and you know what they say....there are no friends in............
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ohsee wrote:nanijoe wrote:We are just not seeing a justification for the number of teams Europe has at the tournament...If we remove the top 6 or so teams, would you bet your house on a European minnow beating one from Concacaaf or Africa?
IS Greece for example better than Panama? Would england beat Cape Verde or Burkina Faso?
The fair thing for FIFA to do is to reduce Europe's guaranteed spots to something like 8, then have an intercontinental playoff for the remaining 4..btw I am ok with FIFA reducing Africa's guaranteed spots to 4 and adding the one spot to the playoff pool..
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soothsayer wrote:Should we really be laughing at Europe.. considering that lowly Greece has just qualified over Ivory coast..
And we still unsure how many african teams will make it out of group yet..
We have two African teams playing Europeans this week to guarantee qualification.. maybe we should not jump the gun.
Really..........You want to rub it in my face.....really....it makes you feel good! Really? Seriously?soothsayer wrote:Should we really be laughing at Europe.. considering that lowly Greece has just qualified over Ivory coast..
And we still unsure how many african teams will make it out of group yet..
We have two African teams playing Europeans this week to guarantee qualification.. maybe we should not jump the gun.
Tbite wrote:Really..........You want to rub it in my face.....really....it makes you feel good! Really? Seriously?soothsayer wrote:Should we really be laughing at Europe.. considering that lowly Greece has just qualified over Ivory coast..
And we still unsure how many african teams will make it out of group yet..
We have two African teams playing Europeans this week to guarantee qualification.. maybe we should not jump the gun.
You scored a cheap point..and then what? Your continent just took a beating and this is the first thing that comes to your mind!
I have said it before that anybody that laughs at Africa is a moron! This is our fight......We fight as one, we suffer as one, we succeed as one! No laughing threads for African teams! Solidarity!
Solidariedade
