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It is mind boggling the number of African brothers this European nation has stolen. I hope to see "team Africa" win it all again this year.
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The perspectives on his are interesting. You say stolen. Some say cheating. Some take pride, some deride.
I don't have any issue with this French team. Everything is by the book. These players are ultimately French. And a good benchmark against which to aspire...especially my country Croatia, USA too.
Croatia lost to France in the 1998 and 2018 WCs. We finally beat them in the Nations League, winning our tier 1 group. But you always knew even in the latter France has more gears, not least because of players of African heritage. I'd love Croatia to play France again. Preferably in the final! And win.
BTW: Christian Pulisic like me is Croatian-American. Croatia tried hard to recruit him. They got him a passport so he could play in Europe at age 16.
Croatia has a formal program to identify, develop, and recruit Croatian ancestry abroad. They advise and even fund kids to get into academies in their countries. Some countries have complied bitterly, especially Bosnia, Germany, and Australia.
Here is a list of Croatians Croatia stole from other countries on our current national team:
Josip Sutalo: Bosnia
Dejan Lovren: Bosnia
Mateo Kovacic: Austria
Josip Stanisic: Germany
Mario Pasalic: Germany
Luka Sucic: Germany
Ante Budimir: Germany
This makes a MASSIVE difference from a small country like us. I think we push the letter of the law more than France. Most French black players were born in France. Unfortunately racists also attack France on this, claiming they're not really French. Ignoring what Croatia does to actively recruit from abroad.
One last point. Remember Brazilian Eduardo who played for Croatia? Brilliant forward who became world class for Croatia and Arsenal. Before an English player broke his leg, basically ending his career? He was recruited and naturalized. Married a Croatian and lives in Zagreb.
Is Eduardo stolen?
I don't have any issue with this French team. Everything is by the book. These players are ultimately French. And a good benchmark against which to aspire...especially my country Croatia, USA too.
Croatia lost to France in the 1998 and 2018 WCs. We finally beat them in the Nations League, winning our tier 1 group. But you always knew even in the latter France has more gears, not least because of players of African heritage. I'd love Croatia to play France again. Preferably in the final! And win.
BTW: Christian Pulisic like me is Croatian-American. Croatia tried hard to recruit him. They got him a passport so he could play in Europe at age 16.
Croatia has a formal program to identify, develop, and recruit Croatian ancestry abroad. They advise and even fund kids to get into academies in their countries. Some countries have complied bitterly, especially Bosnia, Germany, and Australia.
Here is a list of Croatians Croatia stole from other countries on our current national team:
Josip Sutalo: Bosnia
Dejan Lovren: Bosnia
Mateo Kovacic: Austria
Josip Stanisic: Germany
Mario Pasalic: Germany
Luka Sucic: Germany
Ante Budimir: Germany
This makes a MASSIVE difference from a small country like us. I think we push the letter of the law more than France. Most French black players were born in France. Unfortunately racists also attack France on this, claiming they're not really French. Ignoring what Croatia does to actively recruit from abroad.
One last point. Remember Brazilian Eduardo who played for Croatia? Brilliant forward who became world class for Croatia and Arsenal. Before an English player broke his leg, basically ending his career? He was recruited and naturalized. Married a Croatian and lives in Zagreb.
Is Eduardo stolen?
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Re: The French African all-star team...
born, raised, trained, in France but stolen... ok.
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“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
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I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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Black people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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Sad. Very sad.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
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Do such views extend to Christianity’s curriculum or are they reserved for sports and entertainment? One has often observed the most charismatic “back to Africas”, are front row, any given Sunday, ol’ blonde hair and blue eyed portraits decorating their parlours. Irony.
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This post is bitter but packed full of nutrientsbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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Hmm… this matter na anoda whole kettle of fish ma broda. This na why I say Olodo boku for home and diaspora (including all of dem “most educated”, degree holders)TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
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...absolutely nothing wrong with that, it is an achievement, whether na for here or there.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
Especially if those kids were born and raised in France, does that not make them citizens of the land where they were born, and participate in activities, civic duties, vote and what not. Where cares about who they date, or sleep with.
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I wasn’t going to respond to such ill-considered comments but obviously, you are a Nigerian in name alone, not in your heart. I have no problem with individuals doing what they have to do for self-development but there are things that shouldn’t be celebrated. Don’t you know what those armed forces represent? What if one of them is sent on a mission to your village and ends up murdering your close relatives? Would you still be proud?mcal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:20 pm...absolutely nothing wrong with that, it is an achievement, whether na for here or there.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
Especially if those kids were born and raised in France, does that not make them citizens of the land where they were born, and participate in activities, civic duties, vote and what not. Where cares about who they date, or sleep with.
I might be the only one here who felt uncomfortable seeing George Weah, President of Liberia and the foremost Liberian football personality, cheering on the US in their game against Wales. I can’t imagine that the message to Liberians was positive in any way
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stolen??
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If they are stolen, then it means they're illegitimate french citizens. Can't have it both ways. I don't believe anyone steals a citizen of a country to represent them but if anyone did, it is those that rush to switch a kid's allegiance with FIFA and earnestly cap him.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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It extends. I laugh at any black man who identifies as "christian" a religion handed to us by the white man to keep us passive and docile. Believing some grey haired man in the heavens compels slaves to "obey their masters" how idiotic!!Coach wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:30 pm Do such views extend to Christianity’s curriculum or are they reserved for sports and entertainment? One has often observed the most charismatic “back to Africas”, are front row, any given Sunday, ol’ blonde hair and blue eyed portraits decorating their parlours. Irony.
I say again, any black man worth his salt should NEVER don the colors of his white oppressors in sports or in the military. Watching France play makes me uncomfortable. I see a bunch of African slaves performing for the opportunity to win a cup and go "home" to present it to a white man.
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...if he couldn't cheer for his son, why not suggest for him to not play football, or even represent his country? I wonder if you have kids, and willing to be proud of what they are doing no matter for whom.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:40 pmI wasn’t going to respond to such ill-considered comments but obviously, you are a Nigerian in name alone, not in your heart. I have no problem with individuals doing what they have to do for self-development but there are things that shouldn’t be celebrated. Don’t you know what those armed forces represent? What if one of them is sent on a mission to your village and ends up murdering your close relatives? Would you still be proud?mcal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:20 pm...absolutely nothing wrong with that, it is an achievement, whether na for here or there.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
Especially if those kids were born and raised in France, does that not make them citizens of the land where they were born, and participate in activities, civic duties, vote and what not. Where cares about who they date, or sleep with.
I might be the only one here who felt uncomfortable seeing George Weah, President of Liberia and the foremost Liberian football personality, cheering on the US in their game against Wales. I can’t imagine that the message to Liberians was positive in any way
Cheers.
Btw, when you are in a military you swore allegiance to defend and follow the authority, you against it you become a traitor. That's the law in every country.
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All the more reason why, as a Nigerian parent, you shouldn’t encourage your children to serve in a foreign military because you might end up having an unmanageable conflict of interestmcal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:52 am...if he couldn't cheer for his son, why not suggest for him to not play football, or even represent his country? I wonder if you have kids, and willing to be proud of what they are doing no matter for whom.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:40 pmI wasn’t going to respond to such ill-considered comments but obviously, you are a Nigerian in name alone, not in your heart. I have no problem with individuals doing what they have to do for self-development but there are things that shouldn’t be celebrated. Don’t you know what those armed forces represent? What if one of them is sent on a mission to your village and ends up murdering your close relatives? Would you still be proud?mcal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:20 pm...absolutely nothing wrong with that, it is an achievement, whether na for here or there.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
Especially if those kids were born and raised in France, does that not make them citizens of the land where they were born, and participate in activities, civic duties, vote and what not. Where cares about who they date, or sleep with.
I might be the only one here who felt uncomfortable seeing George Weah, President of Liberia and the foremost Liberian football personality, cheering on the US in their game against Wales. I can’t imagine that the message to Liberians was positive in any way
Cheers.
Btw, when you are in a military you swore allegiance to defend and follow the authority, you against it you become a traitor. That's the law in every country.
Cheers.
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its not ok for the white man to tell them they are not french, but its ok for a black man who isn't french to tell them they aren't french. the nerve i tell ya.felarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:57 amIf they are stolen, then it means they're illegitimate french citizens. Can't have it both ways. I don't believe anyone steals a citizen of a country to represent them but if anyone did, it is those that rush to switch a kid's allegiance with FIFA and earnestly cap him.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
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Chief, your mistake is in thinking like a 19th century white racist and engaging in racialist thinking. For one thing, Africa is not a country, nor is it a race. Those stars are not "African," whatever that European invention means. That's primitive thinking. They are French nationals, mostly born there, and raised to that standard of excellence by the excellent French system of football. They have a right to play for the only nation most of them know. If you want to apply the word "stole" to players (though I reject such a term), it is when your own countries come to reap where they did not sow, taking players they did not train and raise to be outstanding players.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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Futcha you do have some sense. My racist French teacher, a woman from Paris, used to tell me that the French national team is not "really" French.King Futcha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:00 amits not ok for the white man to tell them they are not french, but its ok for a black man who isn't french to tell them they aren't french. the nerve i tell ya.felarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:57 amIf they are stolen, then it means they're illegitimate french citizens. Can't have it both ways. I don't believe anyone steals a citizen of a country to represent them but if anyone did, it is those that rush to switch a kid's allegiance with FIFA and earnestly cap him.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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thank you clay, there is hope for you afterall.ohsee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 amChief, your mistake is in thinking like a 19th century white racist and engaging in racialist thinking. For one thing, Africa is not a country, nor is it a race. Those stars are not "African," whatever that European invention means. That's primitive thinking. They are French nationals, mostly born there, and raised to that standard of excellence by the excellent French system of football. They have a right to play for the only nation most of them know. If you want to apply the word "stole" to players (though I reject such a term), it is when your own countries come to reap where they did not sow, taking players they did not train and raise to be outstanding players.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Saints baby we did it
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
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Ya’ll are two of my favorite people here. One of you I’ve actually met in real life. I need you both to get along in case we meet up at the WC in 4 years time.King Futcha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:21 amthank you clay, there is hope for you afterall.ohsee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:04 amChief, your mistake is in thinking like a 19th century white racist and engaging in racialist thinking. For one thing, Africa is not a country, nor is it a race. Those stars are not "African," whatever that European invention means. That's primitive thinking. They are French nationals, mostly born there, and raised to that standard of excellence by the excellent French system of football. They have a right to play for the only nation most of them know. If you want to apply the word "stole" to players (though I reject such a term), it is when your own countries come to reap where they did not sow, taking players they did not train and raise to be outstanding players.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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is it ok for a french woman living abroad to say who is french and who is not? At the very least most of these black guys are paying taxes in France.ohsee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:08 amFutcha you do have some sense. My racist French teacher, a woman from Paris, used to tell me that the French national team is not "really" French.King Futcha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:00 amits not ok for the white man to tell them they are not french, but its ok for a black man who isn't french to tell them they aren't french. the nerve i tell ya.felarey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:57 amIf they are stolen, then it means they're illegitimate french citizens. Can't have it both ways. I don't believe anyone steals a citizen of a country to represent them but if anyone did, it is those that rush to switch a kid's allegiance with FIFA and earnestly cap him.bushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
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How about the Black people who left their countries and are enjoying the comfort of the west. How about those ones? Why aren't they back home building their countries? Where is their pride?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:04 pmBlack people largely don’t have any sense of pride. I see people in the diaspora celebrating their children being commissioned into the British, French or US armed forces almost as if it is the second coming of Christbushboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:58 pm I say "stolen" because that is exactly what it is. The value of these African lads is tied exclusively to how they can be "used" to bring glory to France. They are pawns. Big, strong black men who you cheer for on the soccer pitch but you wouldn't want dating your daughter or moving next door to you.
I am a big believer that no black person should ever feel any sense of pride or honor representing any European or white nation. They all were built on a history or violence and pillaging of Africa and other nations.
Cheers.
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