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Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:03 pm
by Cellular
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:27 pm
maceo4 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm Eto'o celebrating the goal tells you all you need to know.

Cameroon overall performance at the WC is nothing short of an embarassment
What about the red for celebrating a meaningless goal?



I highlight Eto'o because he's going to milk the moral victory for political ends...
Do you know the last time Cameroun had a decent showing at the World Cup even with Eto'o?

Allow the man to celebrate getting 4 points at the World Cup and handing Brazil its first-ever loss at the group stages and add its ever loss to an African country at the World Cup.

So many firsts for Eto'o and Cameroon.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by marutimon
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:53 pmUruguay losing and Suarez crying
Beautiful days!

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by txj
Cellular wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:03 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:27 pm
maceo4 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm Eto'o celebrating the goal tells you all you need to know.

Cameroon overall performance at the WC is nothing short of an embarassment
What about the red for celebrating a meaningless goal?



I highlight Eto'o because he's going to milk the moral victory for political ends...
Do you know the last time Cameroun had a decent showing at the World Cup even with Eto'o?

Allow the man to celebrate getting 4 points at the World Cup and handing Brazil its first-ever loss at the group stages and add its ever loss to an African country at the World Cup.

So many firsts for Eto'o and Cameroon.


He's a fraud.

He's in it purely for himself; has been like that for decades...

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:05 pm
by GREENWHITEGREEN
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:22 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm Aboubakar's actions reveal the mentality of some of these African teams. Ghana celebrating a 2nd goal against Portugal like they had won the match while in reality they needed another goal to tie the game.
That's where Nigeria is different, we wouldn't celebrate in these situations.
Maybe it is ingrained in our DNA that we are all naive, you and me included
I bet that is reflected in our daily jobs as well where we think of the short term and ignore the big picture
DNA ke? Methinks, it's more nurture than nature. The environment rather the genes expressing themselves.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:08 pm
by Orion
Congrats to Cameroon for getting back to winning ways at the World Cup after 20 years.

However, we can't read too much into this result. The teams that appeared to have secured their places in the next round after 2 games all lost their last game. Spain, France, Portugal, and Brazil, giving even perennial wastepipe teams like Tunisia a win.

The only top teams without a loss so far are England and Netherlands. Something is going on in this world cup. It appears the weather is taking a toll on the big teams, so they're resting their players as there are still many games left to win the cup.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:09 pm
by marutimon
For all those whining about the red card:

Look at the reactions of fans. They loved it. Nobody is calling him stupid. It's just a classic world cup moments and will go down in history.


Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:10 pm
by gosh
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:05 pm
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:22 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm Aboubakar's actions reveal the mentality of some of these African teams. Ghana celebrating a 2nd goal against Portugal like they had won the match while in reality they needed another goal to tie the game.
That's where Nigeria is different, we wouldn't celebrate in these situations.
Maybe it is ingrained in our DNA that we are all naive, you and me included
I bet that is reflected in our daily jobs as well where we think of the short term and ignore the big picture
DNA ke? Methinks, it's more nurture than nature. The environment rather the genes expressing themselves.
I agree it is mostly environmental, because black players in Europe don't nearly behave that way.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:10 pm
by Cellular
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:04 pm
Cellular wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:03 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:27 pm
maceo4 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm Eto'o celebrating the goal tells you all you need to know.

Cameroon overall performance at the WC is nothing short of an embarassment
What about the red for celebrating a meaningless goal?



I highlight Eto'o because he's going to milk the moral victory for political ends...
Do you know the last time Cameroun had a decent showing at the World Cup even with Eto'o?

Allow the man to celebrate getting 4 points at the World Cup and handing Brazil its first-ever loss at the group stages and add its ever loss to an African country at the World Cup.

So many firsts for Eto'o and Cameroon.


He's a fraud.

He's in it purely for himself; has been like that for decades...
I agree with you...

But I won't deny him his moment in the sun... yeah, I know it is like winning the tallest midget trophy but he can point to this point as vindication that his methods work and should be given more time and resources.

This is the best they have looked since 2002. That is 20 years, man!

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:17 pm
by Bigpokey24
who cares they did well and improved. This is huge for Song , Eto and Les Lions Indomitable .. this has been their best performance since 1990 .. They did better than ghana and Tunisia...with ghana being the worst CAF team in Qatar

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:29 pm
by felarey
marko wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:29 pm well anyway we live and learn, lessons learned I hope, the Ayew brothers surely must have seen their last World Cup, they did not offer anything, the big disappointment was Nigeria! with all our talent, probably the best in Africa, we allowed Ghana to sucker punch us only to screw up
Why is it that on CE we just yank players out of teams after 45 or 90 mins of football? You can’t buy experience. We tried that once with Pa Oni and the result was a disaster. Ended our golden generation and we’ve never gotten back there. The other day someone said Di Maria’s time is up and Ronaldo should retire, crazy commentary.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:30 pm
by txj
Cellular wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:10 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:04 pm
Cellular wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:03 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:27 pm
maceo4 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm Eto'o celebrating the goal tells you all you need to know.

Cameroon overall performance at the WC is nothing short of an embarassment
What about the red for celebrating a meaningless goal?



I highlight Eto'o because he's going to milk the moral victory for political ends...
Do you know the last time Cameroun had a decent showing at the World Cup even with Eto'o?

Allow the man to celebrate getting 4 points at the World Cup and handing Brazil its first-ever loss at the group stages and add its ever loss to an African country at the World Cup.

So many firsts for Eto'o and Cameroon.


He's a fraud.

He's in it purely for himself; has been like that for decades...
I agree with you...

But I won't deny him his moment in the sun... yeah, I know it is like winning the tallest midget trophy but he can point to this point as vindication that his methods work and should be given more time and resources.

This is the best they have looked since 2002. That is 20 years, man!


But his methods do NOT work!

They failed at AFCON

They failed here also.

Let's not deceive ourselves.

This is what failure looks like.

Apart from a few players, most of the squad is on its last legs. A system of inequity is being built into the team at every level.

And you call his methods working?

I hate to imagine what failure looks like to you!

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pm
by GREENWHITEGREEN
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:05 pm
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:22 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm Aboubakar's actions reveal the mentality of some of these African teams. Ghana celebrating a 2nd goal against Portugal like they had won the match while in reality they needed another goal to tie the game.
That's where Nigeria is different, we wouldn't celebrate in these situations.
Maybe it is ingrained in our DNA that we are all naive, you and me included
I bet that is reflected in our daily jobs as well where we think of the short term and ignore the big picture
DNA ke? Methinks, it's more nurture than nature. The environment rather than the genes expressing themselves.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:44 pm
by GREENWHITEGREEN
gosh wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:10 pm
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:05 pm
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:22 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm Aboubakar's actions reveal the mentality of some of these African teams. Ghana celebrating a 2nd goal against Portugal like they had won the match while in reality they needed another goal to tie the game.
That's where Nigeria is different, we wouldn't celebrate in these situations.
:mrgreen:
Maybe it is ingrained in our DNA that we are all naive, you and me included
I bet that is reflected in our daily jobs as well where we think of the short term and ignore the big picture
DNA ke? Methinks, it's more nurture than nature. The environment rather the genes expressing themselves.
I agree it is mostly environmental, because black players in Europe don't nearly behave that way.
While we need to take a hard and honest look at ourselves, we also need to be mindful of the lies we believe about ourselves. That is how that supremacy and internalized thingies work.

Some of the hardest-working people in corporate America and healthcare (my 2 areas) are people of African descent aka Blacks. They are the least recognized and rewarded. We have to work twice as hard.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:46 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pm
GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:05 pm
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:22 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm Aboubakar's actions reveal the mentality of some of these African teams. Ghana celebrating a 2nd goal against Portugal like they had won the match while in reality they needed another goal to tie the game.
That's where Nigeria is different, we wouldn't celebrate in these situations.
Maybe it is ingrained in our DNA that we are all naive, you and me included
I bet that is reflected in our daily jobs as well where we think of the short term and ignore the big picture
DNA ke? Methinks, it's more nurture than nature. The environment rather than the genes expressing themselves.
You might have a point. Remember this?
[media] [/media]

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:49 pm
by GREENWHITEGREEN
I actually did not remember. Thank you for reminding me. You have a very good memory sha.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:02 am
by txj
felarey wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:29 pm
marko wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:29 pm well anyway we live and learn, lessons learned I hope, the Ayew brothers surely must have seen their last World Cup, they did not offer anything, the big disappointment was Nigeria! with all our talent, probably the best in Africa, we allowed Ghana to sucker punch us only to screw up
Why is it that on CE we just yank players out of teams after 45 or 90 mins of football? You can’t buy experience. We tried that once with Pa Oni and the result was a disaster. Ended our golden generation and we’ve never gotten back there. The other day someone said Di Maria’s time is up and Ronaldo should retire, crazy commentary.


Lets not fool ourselves. The experienced players we reference here are those living on past glories. Playing in the boondocks and expecting to be selected for the NT.

Heck, even Asamoah Gyan expected to be called up!

Burun uba!

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:04 am
by danfo driver
SylverEagles wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm
joplass wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:00 pm
SylverEagles wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:56 pm I guess the so called vaunted Brazil depth is really a myth.
Brazilian B team.
Exactly my point. Many people have said that the Brazil B Team is better than a lot of A teams out there but this result says otherwise.
Bro, you are too smart to be talking like this. The Brazil team outplayed the Cameroonian team and should have beaten them by 5 goals. :rotf: :rotf:

Cameroon won, and for me thats the most important thing and final. However, when people say "the Brazil B team is better than a lot of A teams," I am sure you know what they mean. It doent mean they wont lose some games. After all Madrid, Man City, Bayern are better than a lot of teams, but still lose games, here and there.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:04 am
by danfo driver
scholl wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:15 pm
Synopsis wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:06 pm Cameroon wasting time celebrating in stoppage time when they need another goal.
Did not matter if they scored 10 more goals. As long as Switzerland won, which they did, Cameroon is out.
Very true. But at the time of that celebration, anything could still happen. Its the mentality we are speaking about.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:06 am
by danfo driver
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:20 pm
danfo driver wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:12 pm
akamoke wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:02 pm
danfo driver wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:48 pm
txj wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:41 pm
marko wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:36 pm Cameroon have played well today, Brazil is a tough opponent! Ghana were just piss poor


what have they done?
ehhh.. dominated by Brazil's second 11. Dont you know that is "playing well?" :D
Pity, they couldnt dominate the scoreboard
Yea, you are right. pity they didnt get the moral victory of scoreboard champion and get knocked out. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Hopefully African countries will learn and stop being naive. :oops:
Don't change the goalpost to suit your narrative, your comment was they couldnt dominate the scoreboard, admit you got that wrong
On the naive point, see my post to Marko above and ask yourself if you prefer to be defined by others
African countries are not naive, certain African fans on the other hand???
like I said, its a pity that the dominator of scoreboard is going home. That right there is naive. I rather not dominate the scoreboard and go on to the next round. How about you? :D

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:08 am
by danfo driver
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: I hope this is NOT your mentality in your life.
marutimon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:09 pm For all those whining about the red card:

Look at the reactions of fans. They loved it. Nobody is calling him stupid. It's just a classic world cup moments and will go down in history.


Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:22 am
by AreaDaddy
marutimon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:09 pm For all those whining about the red card:

Look at the reactions of fans. They loved it. Nobody is calling him stupid. It's just a classic world cup moments and will go down in history.

A lot people cheering this are people for whom African teams are just there to add colour.

Who still see Africa though "Eric the Eel" lenses. Plucky amateurs here to add exoticism to the 1st round before heading home. This only feeds into that mentality.

Contrast with Germany v costa rica they, the Germans, knew the tide was not in there favour but after every goal they scored they rushed to get the game restarted.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:22 am
by Orion
marutimon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:09 pm For all those whining about the red card:

Look at the reactions of fans. They loved it. Nobody is calling him stupid. It's just a classic world cup moments and will go down in history.

I'm sorry, but getting sent off at the World Cup can never be something good for player or country. I know he did that on purpose, as he had already given up on making it to the next round. But it goes down in the history books. Maradona said it haunted him for years. They're still mocking Song about being sent off until today. It put a black stain on Zinedine Zidan's world cup history.

BTW, taking your shirt off when you're already on a yellow is a very selfish thing to do. Your team goes a man down, reducing the chances of scoring again. Brazil could have also capitalized on the situation and scored a quick goal.

Re: [WC 2022] Cameroon vs Brazil(1-0)

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:26 am
by danfo driver
:clap: :clap: :clap:
AreaDaddy wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:22 am
marutimon wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:09 pm For all those whining about the red card:

Look at the reactions of fans. They loved it. Nobody is calling him stupid. It's just a classic world cup moments and will go down in history.

A lot people cheering this are people for whom African teams are just there to add colour.

Who still see Africa though "Eric the Eel" lenses. Plucky amateurs here to add exoticism to the 1st round before heading home. This only feeds into that mentality.

Contrast with Germany v costa rica they, the Germans, knew the tide was not in there favour but after every goal they scored they rushed to get the game restarted.