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[WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 3 (Olivier, Mbappe X 2) POLAND 1 (Lewa) FT

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:13 pm
by Scipio Africanus
Game will kick off shortly ...

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm
by Scipio Africanus
Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:34 pm
by theDunamis
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?

Why is it "cowardly" rather than pragmatic? Defense is part of the game and if a team knows it is better off using that department of the game to its advantage rather than play to its opponent's advantage, I'd call that pragmatic and smart. And it is up to the opposition to figure out how to break down a stubborn and rugged defensive approach.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:03 pm
by ohsee
I fear France will have a very difficult time with Poland parking. This could be the first shock of the playoffs.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pm
by Scipio Africanus
theDunamis wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:34 pm
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?

Why is it "cowardly" rather than pragmatic? Defense is part of the game and if a team knows it is better off using that department of the game to its advantage rather than play to its opponent's advantage, I'd call that pragmatic and smart. And it is up to the opposition to figure out how to break down a stubborn and rugged defensive approach.
The word "pragmatic" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. 10 men behind the ball is cowardly because the Poles are capable of much more. Football is a balance between attack and defense. When you overly focus on the latter, you aren't respecting the spirit of the game or your own potential to improve. At least put together a decent counter attack once in a while. I hope France scores early so we can watch a decent game.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:12 pm
by Scipio Africanus
ohsee wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:03 pm I fear France will have a very difficult time with Poland parking. This could be the first shock of the playoffs.
Oga if France cannot score against Poland they deserve to go home and I will enjoy it mightily if and when they do. Poland have been absolutely dire so far. They are the best argument for reducing UEFA contingent numbers.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:26 pm
by Scipio Africanus
Lineups:

France: Lloris, Koundé, Varane, Upamecano, T.Hernández, Tchouaméni, Rabiot, Dembélé, Griezmann, Mbappé, Giroud.

Poland: Szczesny, Bereszynski, Glik, Kiwior, Cash, Krychowiak, Zielinski, Szymanski, Frankowski, Kaminski, Lewandowski.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:27 pm
by Scipio Africanus
A very strong France squad. Today Lloris will tie the great Thuram in number of French caps at 142

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:43 pm
by ohsee
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:26 pm Lineups:

France: Lloris, Koundé, Varane, Upamecano, T.Hernández, Tchouaméni, Rabiot, Dembélé, Griezmann, Mbappé, Giroud.

Poland: Szczesny, Bereszynski, Glik, Kiwior, Cash, Krychowiak, Zielinski, Szymanski, Frankowski, Kaminski, Lewandowski.
Why is Ibrahima "One Man Defence" Konate not in the centerback pairing? I would have played him instead of Uppermechanic.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm
by mate
I say France in an easy game, 2-0.

Poland is just that bad.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:08 pm
by bamenda boy
mate wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm I say France in an easy game, 2-0.

Poland is just that bad.
This world cup has shown us so far that Ndamba( soccer) na for field.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:09 pm
by txj
mate wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm I say France in an easy game, 2-0.

Poland is just that bad.


When will you learn?
There are no easy games in this WC.
Games are being played with only a day rest

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:10 pm
by txj
Poland with the high intensity press in early goings

Is this a dagger I see before me?

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:10 pm
by theDunamis
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:09 pmThe word "pragmatic" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. 10 men behind the ball is cowardly because the Poles are capable of much more. Football is a balance between attack and defense. When you overly focus on the latter, you aren't respecting the spirit of the game or your own potential to improve. At least put together a decent counter attack once in a while. I hope France scores early so we can watch a decent game.

The highlighted is subjective. Very subjective. And if the Poles do not think they are capable of much more, then they will play a defensive game because they want to win more than to want to play how others believe they can or should.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:12 pm
by mate
txj wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:09 pm
mate wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:03 pm I say France in an easy game, 2-0.

Poland is just that bad.


When will you learn?
There are no easy games in this WC.
Games are being played with only a day rest


I get that and normally it's the case.

But this Poland team is just that poor.

To the point where playing a good game is an achievement.

Of course I might be wrong, but I doubt it on this one.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:13 pm
by Scipio Africanus
That was a terrible corner by Griezmann

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:14 pm
by bamenda boy
Daum. Tires French team has four players that could represent Cameruin. Mbappe, Tchoumani, Saliba and Kounde.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:15 pm
by Scipio Africanus
Nice shot by Tchouameni! :clap: :clap: THAT'S how you deal with too many men behind the ball!

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:15 pm
by Odas
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?
Let's wait and see, but I don't see how a team will play a world cup - knockout - for 90 minutes with such a tactic and be successful

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:15 pm
by txj
theDunamis wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:34 pm
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?

Why is it "cowardly" rather than pragmatic? Defense is part of the game and if a team knows it is better off using that department of the game to its advantage rather than play to its opponent's advantage, I'd call that pragmatic and smart. And it is up to the opposition to figure out how to break down a stubborn and rugged defensive approach.


Its about people not understanding the game.
Playing with a low block is a legitimate tactic in football.

You play to your own strength as well as to minimize the opponent's strength.
The Poles are not on the same talent level as France.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:17 pm
by Odas
txj wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:15 pm
theDunamis wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:34 pm
Scipio Africanus wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm Will the Poles ditch their cowardly tactics or will they defend for 120 minutes hoping for penalties?
Why is it "cowardly" rather than pragmatic? Defense is part of the game and if a team knows it is better off using that department of the game to its advantage rather than play to its opponent's advantage, I'd call that pragmatic and smart. And it is up to the opposition to figure out how to break down a stubborn and rugged defensive approach.
Its about people not understanding the game.
Playing with a low block is a legitimate tactic in football.

You play to your own strength as well as to minimize the opponent's strength.
The Poles are not on the same talent level as France.
If so, I hope they are ready to home home, then.

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:17 pm
by txj
Poland are looking to 'shift' Rabiot and attack the space behind Hernandez

Re: [WC 2022 R16] FRANCE 0 POLAND 0

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:17 pm
by bamenda boy
Tchoumani is better than Kanté.