[WC 2022 R16] MOROCCO 0(3) SPAIN 0(0) PKs Morocco advances to the Quarter finals!!!!
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If Morocco wins the WC, CAF what?
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Thank you.AreaDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:18 pm There are Moroccans players right now celebrating with the Berber flag, those players do not consider themselves Arab.
Morocco in this cup will represent many things, African, Arab, Berber, Muslim, non top tier and will cheered on by many.
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You have explained it much better than I could.
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I have a very good friend of almost 20 years who is Berber. I am familiar with the history She was not even confident that they would qualify from the group.AreaDaddy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:18 pmThere are Moroccans players right now celebrating with the Berber flag, those players do not consider themselves Arab.Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
Morocco in this cup will represent many things, African, Arab, Berber, Muslim, non top tier and will cheered on by many.
As we say success has many fathers..
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They are African...and whatever else they want to be.Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
But 1st and foremost...they are MOROCCO!!!
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I don't understand this at all. You guys do know that being Arab and African are not mutually exclusive right? Any more than being Yoruba and African is mutually exclusive. Just because "they feel" Arab (whatever that means) doesn't make them any less African. Arab is ethniticiy/culture that spans multiple region of the world and the fact shows that Morocco is a country inside of the African continent. End of!Sleaky72 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmKabalega wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmSounds like chasing a woman who doesn’t care that much for you….Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
Boom!!
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Moroccans are not arabs, they are North Africans. They'd stone you if you call them arabs especially the ones speaking Berber and not Arabic. They were conquered by arabs and anyone of them considering themselves arabs are just products of arabisation (if that's a word). None the less, they are Africans.
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Best African performance since Cameroon 1990 (possibly Nigeria 1994, but Nigeria went out earlier, despite playing dominant football).
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What about Ghana and Senegal QF?
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Chief I’m not claiming any expertise but just seeking information from those who are more informed.SylverEagles wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:30 pmI don't understand this at all. You guys do know that being Arab and African are not mutually exclusive right? Any more than being Yoruba and African is mutually exclusive. Just because "they feel" Arab (whatever that means) doesn't make them any less African. Arab is ethniticiy/culture that spans multiple region of the world and the fact shows that Morocco is a country inside of the African continent. End of!Sleaky72 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmKabalega wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmSounds like chasing a woman who doesn’t care that much for you….Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
Boom!!
But when you hear words like this is a great day for the Arab world rather than Africa, from supposedly informed sources then it leads to questions.
My whole thing is why identify with people who don’t want to be identified with you?
Not saying that is the case with Morocco.
But my maternal side suffered greatly under Franco.
They only claim to be Spanish when La Roja is playing, and mainly when they are winning
Other than that they would stone you calling them a part of Franco’s empire…
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Ghana didn't win group. And had relatively easy opponents apart from Germany. Morocco best Belgium, world nr 2, now Spain, won their group and played an even match with 2018 finalists.
Senegal beat France, but apart from that weren't really impressive.
In terms of quality of football I put them ahead of Senegal and Ghana. Ghana is the closest any African team has been to a semifinal though.
Nigeria 1994 and Cameroon 1990 are my top teams, because they played like equals against the best teams in the world and outplayed them.
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One football self-anointed expert will conveniently forget when this coach took over.
Let me remind him that the coach took over on the 31st of August after winning the African champions league in May.
Let me remind him that the coach took over on the 31st of August after winning the African champions league in May.
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ghana no count
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This is Africa's best ever world cup showing
All teams have wins
Only one team was 4th in group
Two were third (and could have been 2nd)
One was second and one won the group
2 made it to round of 16
One made it to QF
---so far!!!
This is a great achievement for a continent that is naive and can't play football
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KPOM. I am not worried about what they consider themselves and I am pretty sure they are not concerned with what we call ourselves.Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
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Kinda right but an oversimplification.SylverEagles wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:30 pmI don't understand this at all. You guys do know that being Arab and African are not mutually exclusive right? Any more than being Yoruba and African is mutually exclusive. Just because "they feel" Arab (whatever that means) doesn't make them any less African. Arab is ethniticiy/culture that spans multiple region of the world and the fact shows that Morocco is a country inside of the African continent. End of!Sleaky72 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmKabalega wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 pmSounds like chasing a woman who doesn’t care that much for you….Donzman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:12 pmI do not think this is a debate we want to have, but there are some who consider themselves African and others consider themselves Arab, and others consider both.
They also play in CAF so is an African Federation.
Boom!!
From Wikipedia - Moroccans are primarily of Arab and Berber origin as in other neighbouring countries in the Maghreb.[3][4][1] Arabs make up 44% of the population of Morocco, Arabized Berbers make up 24%, Berbers make up 21%, the Baydhan make up 10%, and others make up 1%.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Morocco
I suspect the Arabs referred to here are Bedouins.
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Chief, that they picked guys at the huddle does not mean that the team did not practice PKs rigorously in training. It is possible that they had already picked the guys beforehand, or that most of the team was good at PKs in practice.fabio wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:10 pmNo. They picked their penalty kickers at the huddle after the FT, according to someone here. They just called out names and they response was YES SIR.ohsee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:06 pmMy bros, Bono knows all those Spanish players. He plays in La Liga for Sevilla. His entire decade-long career has been in La Liga, playing for five Spanish clubs. I am sure the penarity takers knew it, and it contributed to their inability to score. But yes, Bono is excellent. And most importantly, a team that depends on defending MUST practice penalty kicks rigorously. Which the evidence suggests the Moroccans did.
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Once again, you have shown that you travel wide and read widely.felarey wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:32 pm Moroccans are not arabs, they are North Africans. They'd stone you if you call them arabs especially the ones speaking Berber and not Arabic. They were conquered by arabs and anyone of them considering themselves arabs are just products of arabisation (if that's a word). None the less, they are Africans.
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
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Why you dey always find TxJ trouble? Uncle, in some quarters, they will call you Agbaya. But you are our Uncle, and we respect our Uncle in our culture. So we will just call you, Uncle.
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
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Sorry fabio, I just realized you were being ironic. I am still too excited by this Morocco win that has scrambled my okongwu brain.ohsee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:07 pmChief, that they picked guys at the huddle does not mean that the team did not practice PKs rigorously in training. It is possible that they had already picked the guys beforehand, or that most of the team was good at PKs in practice.fabio wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:10 pmNo. They picked their penalty kickers at the huddle after the FT, according to someone here. They just called out names and they response was YES SIR.ohsee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:06 pmMy bros, Bono knows all those Spanish players. He plays in La Liga for Sevilla. His entire decade-long career has been in La Liga, playing for five Spanish clubs. I am sure the penarity takers knew it, and it contributed to their inability to score. But yes, Bono is excellent. And most importantly, a team that depends on defending MUST practice penalty kicks rigorously. Which the evidence suggests the Moroccans did.
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danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:23 pmWhy you dey always find TxJ trouble? Uncle, in some quarters, they will call you Agbaya. But you are our Uncle, and we respect our Uncle in our culture. So we will just call you, Uncle.
Chief, na txj dey find awa trouble, abusing his seniors and betters anyhow. Das why we konk him on top head every now and then to remind him to show respect.