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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 pm let this be known..no foreign coach has won the worldcup

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:27 am

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 pm let this be known..no foreign coach has won the worldcup

That's why I insist and I am 10000000000% sure that Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. No doubt! I can bet my mortgage on it

packerland wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:23 am

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:27 am

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 pm let this be known..no foreign coach has won the worldcup

That's why I insist and I am 10000000000% sure that Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. No doubt! I can bet my mortgage on it

It takes almost 3 years between qualifying for the WC and preparing for the actual tournament. No local coach will go unpaid for that long without succumbing to corruption. You can hire a well skilled driver to drive a Molue but if you don’t fix the roads he or she will still get into accident just like the uneducated knuckle head drivers.

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:14 am

packerland wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:23 am

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:27 am

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 pm let this be known..no foreign coach has won the worldcup

That's why I insist and I am 10000000000% sure that Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. No doubt! I can bet my mortgage on it

It takes almost 3 years between qualifying for the WC and preparing for the actual tournament. No local coach will go unpaid for that long without succumbing to corruption. You can hire a well skilled driver to drive a Molue but if you don’t fix the roads he or she will still get into accident just like the uneducated knuckle head drivers.

You're right. There is a risk with a local coach when he goes unpaid for long. But guess what, the same risk applies to a foreign coach. I submit to you that
the corruption is of a greater scale with foreign coaches. I know of foreign coaches who got kickbacks from players contract. So the issue is that we need good leaders in the glass house( assume they get the funds).
I repeat, Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. That I am so sure of.

Damunk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:41 am

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:14 am

packerland wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:23 am

highbury wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:27 am

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 pm let this be known..no foreign coach has won the worldcup

That's why I insist and I am 10000000000% sure that Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. No doubt! I can bet my mortgage on it

It takes almost 3 years between qualifying for the WC and preparing for the actual tournament. No local coach will go unpaid for that long without succumbing to corruption. You can hire a well skilled driver to drive a Molue but if you don’t fix the roads he or she will still get into accident just like the uneducated knuckle head drivers.

You're right. There is a risk with a local coach when he goes unpaid for long. But guess what, the same risk applies to a foreign coach. I submit to you that
the corruption is of a greater scale with foreign coaches. I know of foreign coaches who got kickbacks from players contract. So the issue is that we need good leaders in the glass house( assume they get the funds).
I repeat, Nigeria will never attain anything sustaining with a foreign coach. That I am so sure of.

You are talking DNA right?
Because Regragrui was born, grew up and played his whole career in France.
Cisse of Senegal grew up there from childhood and played his whole career in France and England.
So my friend, it’s not just about being local - as if it’s not ‘local’ Nigerians that have messed Nigeria up as a country. It is about QUALITY and achievement. It’s about CVs.

Walid Regragrui just WON the CAF with Moroccan club Wydad AC and led another, FUS, to the CAF semifinal TWICE before quitting.
That’s what makes him local, not the DNA in his veins or the colour of his passport of which he has two. Same as Cisse.
Regragrui is no more ‘local’ than the Ezes, Lookmans, Aribos and Olisehs you guys routinely deride on these pages.

If anything, these two coaches prove that achievement should trump DNA.
DNA is just a feel-good bonus which means very little.

But in Nigeria, we want ‘local’ and it doesn’t matter we have virtually no one with anything credible by way of achievement to show on their CVs. Exactly how we choose Presidents, Governors and Senators - no CV.
A country of 200m and we are struggling to find three coaches that have proven pedigree. A pedigree that can match either of these two coaches or even Stephen Keshi’s even before he became Nigeria’s coach.

Yet we have tens of thousands of high performing Nigerian IT specialists, doctors, engineers, writers, musicians, actors, bankers, accountants, lawyers, designers, academics scattered all over the world, including those in Nigeria.

“It’s okay. Forget that CV. Sebi you be local? Oya, try your luck.”

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:16 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:41 am ]ou are talking DNA right?
Because Regragrui was born, grew up and played his whole career in France.
Cisse of Senegal grew up there from childhood and played his whole career in France and England.
So my friend, it’s not just about being local - as if it’s not ‘local’ Nigerians that have messed Nigeria up as a country. It is about QUALITY and achievement. It’s about CVs.

Walid Regragrui just WON the CAF with Moroccan club Wydad AC and led another, FUS, to the CAF semifinal TWICE before quitting.
That’s what makes him local, not the DNA in his veins or the colour of his passport of which he has two. Same as Cisse.
Regragrui is no more ‘local’ than the Ezes, Lookmans, Aribos and Olisehs you guys routinely deride on these pages.

If anything, these two coaches prove that achievement should trump DNA.
DNA is just a feel-good bonus which means very little.

But in Nigeria, we want ‘local’ and it doesn’t matter we have virtually no one with anything credible by way of achievement to show on their CVs. Exactly how we choose Presidents, Governors and Senators - no CV.
A country of 200m and we are struggling to find three coaches that have proven pedigree. A pedigree that can match either of these two coaches or even Stephen Keshi’s even before he became Nigeria’s coach.

Yet we have tens of thousands of high performing Nigerian IT specialists, doctors, engineers, writers, musicians, actors, bankers, accountants, lawyers, designers, academics scattered all over the world, including those in Nigeria.

“It’s okay. Forget that CV. Sebi you be local? Oya, try your luck.”

If we are looking at CV then what's the CV of the past 'foreign' coaches like?

We talk of pedigree, how will they get it when we don't even allow them to compete? Before the lie was that they don't have UEFA license. Now that they have the license we still are not willing to give them the opportunity.

Some of them are now going to other countries to have a chance! Amunike qualified Tanzania for the ANC. The LAST time Tanzania qualified for ANC before then was in 1980! What Amunike did with that team was nothing short of a Miracle. This was like Keshi qualifying Togo for the WC!

We would have used the under age teams to groom our coaches but what do we have. The teams don't get any support.

We don't encourage our own but will rather get any journeyman just because of the color of his skin!

Damunk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:15 pm

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:16 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:41 am ]ou are talking DNA right?
Because Regragrui was born, grew up and played his whole career in France.
Cisse of Senegal grew up there from childhood and played his whole career in France and England.
So my friend, it’s not just about being local - as if it’s not ‘local’ Nigerians that have messed Nigeria up as a country. It is about QUALITY and achievement. It’s about CVs.

Walid Regragrui just WON the CAF with Moroccan club Wydad AC and led another, FUS, to the CAF semifinal TWICE before quitting.
That’s what makes him local, not the DNA in his veins or the colour of his passport of which he has two. Same as Cisse.
Regragrui is no more ‘local’ than the Ezes, Lookmans, Aribos and Olisehs you guys routinely deride on these pages.

If anything, these two coaches prove that achievement should trump DNA.
DNA is just a feel-good bonus which means very little.

But in Nigeria, we want ‘local’ and it doesn’t matter we have virtually no one with anything credible by way of achievement to show on their CVs. Exactly how we choose Presidents, Governors and Senators - no CV.
A country of 200m and we are struggling to find three coaches that have proven pedigree. A pedigree that can match either of these two coaches or even Stephen Keshi’s even before he became Nigeria’s coach.

Yet we have tens of thousands of high performing Nigerian IT specialists, doctors, engineers, writers, musicians, actors, bankers, accountants, lawyers, designers, academics scattered all over the world, including those in Nigeria.

“It’s okay. Forget that CV. Sebi you be local? Oya, try your luck.”

If we are looking at CV then what's the CV of the past 'foreign' coaches like?

We talk of pedigree, how will they get it when we don't even allow them to compete? Before the lie was that they don't have UEFA license. Now that they have the license we still are not willing to give them the opportunity.

Oh, so the excuse now is that they are not allowed to compete?

You see yasef?
Typical Nigerian not wanting to do the hard work to earn a position.
What happened to demonstrating the merit of your qualification with a clubside?
Last time I checked, we have at least 20 clubs in Naiia, talk less hundreds more around Africa.
They are not being given a chance there too?

And is having a UEFA Pro license all that you require?
Are you lot not the ones insulting some of us as having "low standards", "no ambition" and generally being "anti-meritocratic"?
So now, no need to show what you can do. Just carry licence come abi?.

Some of them are now going to other countries to have a chance! Amunike qualified Tanzania for the ANC. The LAST time Tanzania qualified for ANC before then was in 1980! What Amunike did with that team was nothing short of a Miracle. This was like Keshi qualifying Togo for the WC!

Good for Amunike. That's great,
Anything else? Again, look at your standards.
Qualifying a country for AFCON only to come rock bottom thereafter is now good enough for the SE?
Okay, so I know a Kwesi Acheampong with the exact same "high achieving" CV.
Should he apply?
No? I thought you said you wanted a black man?

We would have used the under age teams to groom our coaches but what do we have. The teams don't get any support.

So what's wrong with the senior teams in the NPFL?
Not good enough for our coaches to groom themselves?

So we now have to 'groom' our SE coaches in the youth football system to qualify them for the SE. Who does that?
My friend, you are writing comedy.

We don't encourage our own but will rather get any journeyman just because of the color of his skin!

Shamelessly laying the race card again, as usual. "Oh, they won't employ me cos I'm a black man!"
Gerrourahia!
You aint good enough! That's the problem, dude.
Go see what your fellow Nigerians are doing in 'the white man's' land, regardless of the overt racism.
Nigerians no send. They will do the training, do the work and excel. Men and women,
But our local coaches?

Okay, if you have a serious problem with "the white man" go find a qualified, performing black man out there in the world. No? Dem dey o.
Better still, look across the continent and find one.

Best of all, encourage our lazy, entitled coaches to go out there and pay their dues by developing themselves instead of waiting for Goodluck J and Buhari to send them abroad for short 2-month courses with estacode.
Nonsense.

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:56 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

hush your mouth and get out of this forum, you cursed troll

100%Naija wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:35 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:56 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

hush your mouth and get out of this forum, you cursed troll

He aint lying bruv

maceo4 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:38 pm

100%Naija wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:35 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:56 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

hush your mouth and get out of this forum, you cursed troll

He aint lying bruv

Can I celebrate Moroccos win or no?

100%Naija wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:26 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:38 pm

100%Naija wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:35 pm

Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:56 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:49 pm But Morocco don't run their affairs like other Africans.

hush your mouth and get out of this forum, you cursed troll

He aint lying bruv

Can I celebrate Moroccos win or no?

As long as you dont say "we" won