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Man Ataye wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:39 pm

Tbite wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:27 am Croatia are toast.

They have no chance against Brazil. They might as well start packing their bags. Croatia booms and bursts in cycles...they are not a team that sustains. They are at the END of a cycle. They have to wait for the next one.

The team have already outdone themselves by making it this far. I think they got a bit lucky to have got to this stage, but luck can only take you so far.

And I don't think Brazil are in the mood to be dishing out luck.

FAMOUS LAST WORDZ

Coach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:41 am Far from a foregone conclusion. Brazil were almost 4-2-4 vs the Swiss, with the front quartet not doing the most defensively, it could be argued they didn't need to. The Grand Old Hadjukes of Split, will do just that to the centre field if such brazen disregard for Mazi Modric is employed.

The Croats will be dogged in defence and refined in possession, this should be Brazil's first real test.

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

Tbite wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:40 am Nobody is disrespecting the 2nd place finish. The point is you peaked in 2018 and you will not come anywhere near that placing for some time. Your team is a mixture of the old cycle and the new wave that are yet to come fully into their element. Gvadiol is 20 years old. Nobody is disputing that Croatia will roar again, but it certainly won't be happening this World Cup.

Your footballing performance has been trash (that is the luck element), how you managed to make it this far is beyond me. Even in the build up to the World Cup, your performances have been trash. Don't get me wrong, I even made money FROM croatia, see my post in other sports in the Adesanya thread, but you have a lot of tired legs.

Your best performances were in the Nations League, but even those were not as consistent as it would seem, your best results were against France, but your worst results also against France, largely you faced weak teams in Europe, and have struggled especially in the past 6 months.

Brazil will make easy work of Croatia, forget the upsets during this world cup, no such thing will happen against Brazil. What really helped you against Japan was your experience. I am tempted to make a lot of money from Brazil, but the only thing I am hesitating is whether they can do it in the 90. I expect them to win in 90, but there is a small margin for error during this stage of the tournament, where teams become grittier. That is my only concern.

There will be no miracle sorry Mate (pun intended, we aussies always say mate).

I think realistically we have France, Brazil, Portugal as the three to win this, then Argentina as outsiders, England (if they can truly believe in themselves), Netherlands as distant dark horses, and finally Croatia as a long long long shot, Switzerland should start packing their bags ASAP. For me an upset will be Argentina and England doing well. THAT is the miracle. The miracle won't be Switzerland or Croatia doing well. And I am hoping for Argentina to go far into the tournament, for Messi's sake.

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:50 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

Unlucky? How? They were expecting a basket goalkeeper?

Brazil played the game Croatia wanted. Croatia played to its strength. Don't think it is LUCK. This is hard work, dedication and organisation.

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:50 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

Unlucky? How? They were expecting a basket goalkeeper?

Brazil played the game Croatia wanted. Croatia played to its strength. Don't think it is LUCK. This is hard work, dedication and organisation.

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:50 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

Unlucky? How? They were expecting a basket goalkeeper?

Brazil played the game Croatia wanted. Croatia played to its strength. Don't think it is LUCK. This is hard work, dedication and organisation.

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:14 pm

wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:50 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:51 am

mate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:43 am I don't know about the midfield winning. The Croatian keeper was the MOM in the game as he was in the previous game against Japan.

Croatia had 52% to 48% of possession and bossed Brazil a lot during this. Shots obfuscate this, as we have no quality forwards.

When does anybody boss Brazil in the middle like we did? I'm not bragging, but we put a serious squeeze on a rightfully ranked #1 and hot favorite jogo bonito Brazil. And broke up most of their quick passing combos through the middle, forcing them to go on he flanks into speedy Juranovic and Sosa.

No doubt Livakovic made those crucial saves.

But for me, the midfield indeed is where we won the whole match. Brazil played the game on our terms. Making it a midfield endeavor, as they didn't bomb us like they did Serbia and South Korea.

I think our midfield imposed those terms.

Most of the possession was in your half. You only had one shot at goal and your goalie made the most saves a Croatian goalie has ever had in the WC. At no time did you boss the game.

You executed your game plan well but this was a case of Brazil being unlucky.

Unlucky? How? They were expecting a basket goalkeeper?

Brazil played the game Croatia wanted. Croatia played to its strength. Don't think it is LUCK. This is hard work, dedication and organisation.

There is a whole lot of luck in football boss. Anyway that is not even my argument. It is this so called bossing Brazil that makes me laugh. Just look at the stats.

Even the possession stats according to Espn was 50/50. In all other areas Brazil dominated, but we all know football is a funny ole sport.

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:09 pm You need luck at some stage to win the WC. Brazil were unlucky. Croatia have been hella lucky. Doesn't mean they are not a good team

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:09 pm You need luck at some stage to win the WC. Brazil were unlucky. Croatia have been hella lucky. Doesn't mean they are not a good team

airwolex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:07 pm Fair enough. I guess we see things differently. My personal opinion is that Brazil are a victim of their success and are not judged by normal standards. This is why a lot of people are saying Croatia out thought and outplayed them. In my opinion nothing could be further from the truth. They played as well as they could against strong opponents and did not get any breaks.