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Left to me I view assnal as a mid table club, similar to wolves, Everton and maybe Watford.. some assnal fans are trying to forgot A 3 to 2 goals home loss to CP. 4 nill trashing as the King Power, talkless of the serious footballing lessons by Wolves, or drawing at home to ordinary Brighton..smh..European super powers indeed
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Blukyt wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Blukyt wrote:Arsenal/Arsene used to be brilliant and spotting talent early and acquiring them. Some big no brainer misses that really shocked me.
VVD was at Celtic and was passed up on, along with Wanyama.

I actually hoped Wenger would step and down and personally approach Klopp to take over from him when he left Dortmund.
Pocchetino was doing great things with young players on a budget at Southampton, I thought there is another perfect candidate to take over from Wenger but no. Seeing them do what they are doing at the respectively clubs is really painful to watch I won't even lie.
Not to worry these things go in circles, we need to get things right internally at our club first. Hopefully, we continue this summer with internal structural changes.

You forget, we are in transition, we have sold a lot of players bringing in a lot of players. We are not far off.
I am not confident that the club can make the right decisions to get back competing at an elite level. They have shown form with so very stupid decision like what I already mentioned. Investing badly, buying substandard players and throwing big money at players that are giving very little in return and now will struggling to shift them. "We are not far off"? Sorry not buying that at all. We are have been regressing while they have zoomed past us. In reality we are competing with the Wolves and Evertons.
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Blukyt wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Blukyt wrote:Arsenal/Arsene used to be brilliant and spotting talent early and acquiring them. Some big no brainer misses that really shocked me.
VVD was at Celtic and was passed up on, along with Wanyama.

I actually hoped Wenger would step and down and personally approach Klopp to take over from him when he left Dortmund.
Pocchetino was doing great things with young players on a budget at Southampton, I thought there is another perfect candidate to take over from Wenger but no. Seeing them do what they are doing at the respectively clubs is really painful to watch I won't even lie.
Not to worry these things go in circles, we need to get things right internally at our club first. Hopefully, we continue this summer with internal structural changes.

You forget, we are in transition, we have sold a lot of players bringing in a lot of players. We are not far off.
I am not confident that the club can make the right decisions to get back competing at an elite level. They have shown form with so very stupid decision like what I already mentioned. Investing badly, buying substandard players and throwing big money at players that are giving very little in return and now will struggling to shift them. "We are not far off"? Sorry not buying that at all. We are have been regressing while they have zoomed past us. In reality we are competing with the Wolves and Evertons.
:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: tru dat
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Everton are a concern, a worry foretold many years back when those monopoly men were whispering about the existential threat.
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Bigpokey24 wrote:
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Bigpokey24 wrote:Assnal fans aren't aware 2006 was 13 years ago :laugh:
What are you aware of? It is obvious you lack self awareness all over this forum. Your behaviour is uncouth, ill-mannered, lacking is self discipline, self respect and class.

Why the trolling behaviour, why do you feel it is alright to bring down this thread and put a lot of people off? I can understand if you were provoked and you reacted in kind but you have a history of conduct unbecoming. You carry yourself like a feral child as made manifest with your posts. It is a pity. A crying shame to see an adult behave this way.

You talk of being aware, I will advise you to take a look in the mirror, cos if you had any sense of awareness, you will conduct yourself with decorum, dignity and class.

A word they say, is enough for the wise.

Unfortunately, you and wisdom are enemies. Sad. :( :mad:
what are you talking about. I want you to know that assnal isn't a top club. No matter how hard yall try to spam or promote your club it won't change the fact yall have mental weaknesses. Every club in the top 6 are at least partaking in the champs league.

You guys enjoy insulting your players...be it Kanu , Adebayo and now Iwobi...Assnal isnt a European super power.Look at a trash club like spurs they have a 50%chance of winning a major trophy outside of the FA cup or league cup withing the last 10 years....Guess what they will be back in the Elite league next season. You ve punished this forum with excuses about FFP or you hide behind a new stadium..guess what, Spurs do have a new stadium and they will be in Madrid next month..smh
I say! A very insightful and intelligent analysis. :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:....if we gooners are to be honest with ourselves.....we need to ask the right questions.......
how have TOTO made it to the UCL finals with near to no investment in the transfer market this summer?
how have they done it whilst upgrading their stadium?
how have they been able to hang on to their best players?
how have they been able to buy players without statsdna :rotf: :rotf: ?
No questions to ask. Once in a while you get a set of talented players. It has taken Spurs over 20 years to get there.

In that time Arsenal have done the same and won a lot of silverware. Let us see how long Spurs can sustain being in the top 4 and CL. Arsenal did for 22 years consecutively but it was not enough for you and many others here.

Why do you even mention as some sort of example for us? On what basis? What have they done that we have not done and more? Are Spurs league title contenders? They are not. They got to the final of a knockout competition, we have done it too.

You and others demeaned every Wenger win, claiming Wenger has not won the league etc. Now you are celebrating Spurs being in the final. That's hypocrisy.
....✋ you need to stop throwing insults at me.....it's very childish and uncouth.....if you don't want to have a mature discussion about how to improve our fortunes as a club, then kick the dust of your shoes and keep it moving.....
Wenger cannot compete with the machinations of modern day football, he has proved this to be true.....that's why he had to go....deal with it....
For the last time........don't say things I didn't say........
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You can't use the lack of Champions League success or your rival's impending success, to denigrate Wenger's entire time at the club.
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kalani JR wrote:You can't use the lack of Champions League success or your rival's impending success, to denigrate Wenger's entire time at the club.
Sorry man, but can you please indicate where anyone did this. Definitely the post Highbury era of his time has been questioned but not sure I have seen anyone say his whole time with us was bad. An instance would be great.
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The truth is that we were told if we move to a brand new bigger stadium we can grow and compete with likes of Barca,and other big clubs.
Truth is we are falling behind and teams that were trying to catch us like Spurs,Chelsea and City have been ahead of us.City and Chelsea we were told is sugar daddy money.So what happen now with spurs that compete and better than us in the last 3 years to 4 year going?The sad part even our best teams under Wenger that go all season unbeaten were very average team in Europe.When you look at Porto 2004 and beloved same here,how did we not compete for that year cL?
We have to ask serious question how we can make Arsenal great again(MAGA)...
With all that said,i hope the boys can go all out to make us fans proud win the dam Europa victory :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Gooner1 wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:....if we gooners are to be honest with ourselves.....we need to ask the right questions.......
how have TOTO made it to the UCL finals with near to no investment in the transfer market this summer?
how have they done it whilst upgrading their stadium?
how have they been able to hang on to their best players?
how have they been able to buy players without statsdna :rotf: :rotf: ?
No questions to ask. Once in a while you get a set of talented players. It has taken Spurs over 20 years to get there.

In that time Arsenal have done the same and won a lot of silverware. Let us see how long Spurs can sustain being in the top 4 and CL. Arsenal did for 22 years consecutively but it was not enough for you and many others here.

Why do you even mention as some sort of example for us? On what basis? What have they done that we have not done and more? Are Spurs league title contenders? They are not. They got to the final of a knockout competition, we have done it too.

You and others demeaned every Wenger win, claiming Wenger has not won the league etc. Now you are celebrating Spurs being in the final. That's hypocrisy.
....✋ you need to stop throwing insults at me.....it's very childish and uncouth.....if you don't want to have a mature discussion about how to improve our fortunes as a club, then kick the dust of your shoes and keep it moving.....
Wenger cannot compete with the machinations of modern day football, he has proved this to be true.....that's why he had to go....deal with it....
For the last time........don't say things I didn't say........
Not an insult, just stating facts. You may not like me calling you out, but I will. Because I recall vividly our debates on these issues. You cannot in one breath demand we win the league to keep a manager and then turn around moaning and using another club getting to a final as yardstick when you demeaned Wenger for getting to the final and not winning the CL.

The same club you are now using as a yardstick for success, are not and have never been league contenders. But for a certain Manager, only winning it was good enough.

My point remains, why are all the things you said were not good enough suddenly now good enough. What does that make you?

Okay, since I touched a raw nerve. I will use the word inconsistent. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:....if we gooners are to be honest with ourselves.....we need to ask the right questions.......
how have TOTO made it to the UCL finals with near to no investment in the transfer market this summer?
how have they done it whilst upgrading their stadium?
how have they been able to hang on to their best players?
how have they been able to buy players without statsdna :rotf: :rotf: ?
No questions to ask. Once in a while you get a set of talented players. It has taken Spurs over 20 years to get there.

In that time Arsenal have done the same and won a lot of silverware. Let us see how long Spurs can sustain being in the top 4 and CL. Arsenal did for 22 years consecutively but it was not enough for you and many others here.

Why do you even mention as some sort of example for us? On what basis? What have they done that we have not done and more? Are Spurs league title contenders? They are not. They got to the final of a knockout competition, we have done it too.

You and others demeaned every Wenger win, claiming Wenger has not won the league etc. Now you are celebrating Spurs being in the final. That's hypocrisy.
....✋ you need to stop throwing insults at me.....it's very childish and uncouth.....if you don't want to have a mature discussion about how to improve our fortunes as a club, then kick the dust of your shoes and keep it moving.....
Wenger cannot compete with the machinations of modern day football, he has proved this to be true.....that's why he had to go....deal with it....
For the last time........don't say things I didn't say........
Not an insult, just stating facts. You may not like me calling you out, but I will. Because I recall vividly our debates on these issues. You cannot in one breath demand we win the league to keep a manager and then turn around moaning and using another club getting to a final as yardstick when you demeaned Wenger for getting to the final and not winning the CL.

The same club you are now using as a yardstick for success, are not and have never been league contenders. But for a certain Manager, only winning it was good enough.

My point remains, why are all the things you said were not good enough suddenly now good enough. What does that make you?

Okay, since I touched a raw nerve. I will use the word inconsistent. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...u never touched a raw nerve......I just want to put u in check when you claim something I did not say, then u base your whole thesis on the premise of something I never said in the first place.....whether it's TOTO, Chelshyt, Leicester......the argument remains the same.....wenger is gone and thankfully so.......
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Blukyt wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Blukyt wrote:Arsenal/Arsene used to be brilliant and spotting talent early and acquiring them. Some big no brainer misses that really shocked me.
VVD was at Celtic and was passed up on, along with Wanyama.

I actually hoped Wenger would step and down and personally approach Klopp to take over from him when he left Dortmund.
Pocchetino was doing great things with young players on a budget at Southampton, I thought there is another perfect candidate to take over from Wenger but no. Seeing them do what they are doing at the respectively clubs is really painful to watch I won't even lie.
Not to worry these things go in circles, we need to get things right internally at our club first. Hopefully, we continue this summer with internal structural changes.

You forget, we are in transition, we have sold a lot of players bringing in a lot of players. We are not far off.
I am not confident that the club can make the right decisions to get back competing at an elite level. They have shown form with so very stupid decision like what I already mentioned. Investing badly, buying substandard players and throwing big money at players that are giving very little in return and now will struggling to shift them. "We are not far off"? Sorry not buying that at all. We are have been regressing while they have zoomed past us. In reality we are competing with the Wolves and Evertons.
This is not a time for emotions. When you say spending big money, this big money is relative to which other clubs? When you compare our so called big money spend to the real competition, we are where we deserve to be.

Let's look at facts. Arsenal have been to a CL final. So it is not unique to us. Since Arsenal won the FA Cup in May 2017, there have been major changes at the club, especially with players.

In 4 transfer windows, 19 players from the squad that finished the 2016/17 season have departed. In effect, they have sold and loaned out almost a whole squad of players. This is a high turnover of players and the speed of departures also.

In the summer 2017 and Jan 2018 windows, these players left: Gibbs, Gabriel, Ox, Coquelin, Sanchez, Walcott, Giroud Debuchy, Szczesny and Sanogo.

Same windows saw the following arrivals: Lacazette, Aubameyang, Mavprovanos, Mikh and Kolasinac.

That makes 10 sold, 5 bought.


The 2018 summer and Jan 2019 window saw these players left: Santi, Per, Wilshere, Perez, Campbell and Akpom.

These players arrive: Sokratis, Leno, Torreira, Guendouzi, Lichtsteiner and Suarez (Loan)

The next 2 windows 6 left and we bought 5. Making a total on 16 players departed, 10 players purchased.

When you add players currently on loan; Chambers and Ospinna and Martinez. That makes 19 players who have featured in our first team gone in 4 windows. That is a lot of departures, but what is worse is, we have only 10 players purchased into the squad.

We also know Ramsey, Welbeck and Cech are leaving. So after 5 windows the only senior players from May 2017 are: Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Monreal, Kos and Bellerin. In this period players like ElNeny, Iwobi, Holding and Niles also came into the squad but as fringe players. These players have made up for the 9 players we sold and not replaced in the transfer market. So add the arrivals plus the senior players and fringe players, you have our current squad. This is grossly inadequate and you see why we struggle.

When you do cold hard analysis like this, you can start to pinpoint the problems and see our squad is grossly inadequate but also in the process of much needed rebuild.

I am not emotional, we have a new man and we must continue our rebuild. I have heard rumours of having little money to spend, I cannot see how that is possible. From my analysis of the accounts we have at least £100m to spend without CL football.

This summer is huge for Arsenal.
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Waffiman wrote:
Blukyt wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Blukyt wrote:Arsenal/Arsene used to be brilliant and spotting talent early and acquiring them. Some big no brainer misses that really shocked me.
VVD was at Celtic and was passed up on, along with Wanyama.

I actually hoped Wenger would step and down and personally approach Klopp to take over from him when he left Dortmund.
Pocchetino was doing great things with young players on a budget at Southampton, I thought there is another perfect candidate to take over from Wenger but no. Seeing them do what they are doing at the respectively clubs is really painful to watch I won't even lie.
Not to worry these things go in circles, we need to get things right internally at our club first. Hopefully, we continue this summer with internal structural changes.

You forget, we are in transition, we have sold a lot of players bringing in a lot of players. We are not far off.
I am not confident that the club can make the right decisions to get back competing at an elite level. They have shown form with so very stupid decision like what I already mentioned. Investing badly, buying substandard players and throwing big money at players that are giving very little in return and now will struggling to shift them. "We are not far off"? Sorry not buying that at all. We are have been regressing while they have zoomed past us. In reality we are competing with the Wolves and Evertons.
This is not a time for emotions. When you say spending big money, this big money is relative to which other clubs? When you compare our so called big money spend to the real competition, we are where we deserve to be.

Let's look at facts. Arsenal have been to a CL final. So it is not unique to us. Since Arsenal won the FA Cup in May 2017, there have been major changes at the club, especially with players.

In 4 transfer windows, 19 players from the squad that finished the 2016/17 season have departed. In effect, they have sold and loaned out almost a whole squad of players. This is a high turnover of players and the speed of departures also.

In the summer 2017 and Jan 2018 windows, these players left: Gibbs, Gabriel, Ox, Coquelin, Sanchez, Walcott, Giroud Debuchy, Szczesny and Sanogo.

Same windows saw the following arrivals: Lacazette, Aubameyang, Mavprovanos, Mikh and Kolasinac.

That makes 10 sold, 5 bought.


The 2018 summer and Jan 2019 window saw these players left: Santi, Per, Wilshere, Perez, Campbell and Akpom.

These players arrive: Sokratis, Leno, Torreira, Guendouzi, Lichtsteiner and Suarez (Loan)

The next 2 windows 6 left and we bought 5. Making a total on 16 players departed, 10 players purchased.

When you add players currently on loan; Chambers and Ospinna and Martinez. That makes 19 players who have featured in our first team gone in 4 windows. That is a lot of departures, but what is worse is, we have only 10 players purchased into the squad.

We also know Ramsey, Welbeck and Cech are leaving. So after 5 windows the only senior players from May 2017 are: Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Monreal, Kos and Bellerin. In this period players like ElNeny, Iwobi, Holding and Niles also came into the squad but as fringe players. These players have made up for the 9 players we sold and not replaced in the transfer market. So add the arrivals plus the senior players and fringe players, you have our current squad. This is grossly inadequate and you see why we struggle.

When you do cold hard analysis like this, you can start to pinpoint the problems and see our squad is grossly inadequate but also in the process of much needed rebuild.

I am not emotional, we have a new man and we must continue our rebuild. I have heard rumours of having little money to spend, I cannot see how that is possible. From my analysis of the accounts we have at least £100m to spend without CL football.

This summer is huge for Arsenal.
Your analysis of the squad is correct and part of what gives no confidence. Look at the squad we have ended up with. The players we have right now will not get it done. Yes, we are rebuilding and it will take time. At the moment I have no issue with the new management and I am willing to let them get on with the rebuilding although I am not confident based on how the club has handled transfers and contracts in recent years.

But when you say we are not far off. I struggle to see how you arrive at this.
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Gooner1 wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:....if we gooners are to be honest with ourselves.....we need to ask the right questions.......
how have TOTO made it to the UCL finals with near to no investment in the transfer market this summer?
how have they done it whilst upgrading their stadium?
how have they been able to hang on to their best players?
how have they been able to buy players without statsdna :rotf: :rotf: ?
No questions to ask. Once in a while you get a set of talented players. It has taken Spurs over 20 years to get there.

In that time Arsenal have done the same and won a lot of silverware. Let us see how long Spurs can sustain being in the top 4 and CL. Arsenal did for 22 years consecutively but it was not enough for you and many others here.

Why do you even mention as some sort of example for us? On what basis? What have they done that we have not done and more? Are Spurs league title contenders? They are not. They got to the final of a knockout competition, we have done it too.

You and others demeaned every Wenger win, claiming Wenger has not won the league etc. Now you are celebrating Spurs being in the final. That's hypocrisy.
....✋ you need to stop throwing insults at me.....it's very childish and uncouth.....if you don't want to have a mature discussion about how to improve our fortunes as a club, then kick the dust of your shoes and keep it moving.....
Wenger cannot compete with the machinations of modern day football, he has proved this to be true.....that's why he had to go....deal with it....
For the last time........don't say things I didn't say........
Not an insult, just stating facts. You may not like me calling you out, but I will. Because I recall vividly our debates on these issues. You cannot in one breath demand we win the league to keep a manager and then turn around moaning and using another club getting to a final as yardstick when you demeaned Wenger for getting to the final and not winning the CL.

The same club you are now using as a yardstick for success, are not and have never been league contenders. But for a certain Manager, only winning it was good enough.

My point remains, why are all the things you said were not good enough suddenly now good enough. What does that make you?

Okay, since I touched a raw nerve. I will use the word inconsistent. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...u never touched a raw nerve......I just want to put u in check when you claim something I did not say, then u base your whole thesis on the premise of something I never said in the first place.....whether it's TOTO, Chelshyt, Leicester......the argument remains the same.....wenger is gone and thankfully so.......
Absolute rubbish. Don't twist the issue. You posted using Spurs final as a yardstick, I called you out, because it represented a considerable shift in your position to the times Wenger was around when you talked about it all being about winning.

You use to complain about top 4 and CL qualification as a bad thing because we will not win it, so what is the point.

You said here many a time, the objective was to win. To you it was all about winning. So it is hypocritical to now use a club that has won and achieved what we once did as something to aspire to.

This is my point, and it remains my point. You suddenly changing your tune and asking we use a club that qualifies for top 4, not win a thing as a yardstick because they got to the final is arrant hypocrisy.

You are upset I used used the word hypocrisy. I then used the word inconsistent mockingly. BTW! I did not call you any names, but you still got angry because I called out your actions. Be angry, it does not change my position and the fact that I am right.
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Plenty hypocrites dey here.
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I really hope and pray we get through today's game and qualify. It is not the best time for an Arsenal fan presently.
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Waffiman wrote:
danfo driver wrote:he also told you guys that you cant compete with a new stadium :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Arsenal fans will believe anything. Thats why Waffiman is their god. :lol: :lol:

Who is your god? At least my God is not a tribalist. I am clean, you are not. You are a filthy tribalistic scum.

Only a person like you will post a tweet from that sort of low life account. You are both peas in a pod. He drops poo, and a feral mongrel dog like you eat it up, then lick your lips for good measure.

That's what you are. I don't need my words to put you in your place, all I need to do is post the words of other forumers. We all know what you are.

Ah! Their god don vex. Just stop telling them lies for years and years and years. :lol: Abegi.. jare, Waffi, come make we dance! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Waffiman wrote:Oh! I think it is time I come out to deal with scum in this place. I have been too gentle of late. The trolls have had their time, pissing their pathetic, swine, filth in this thread. Time to fight fire with fire.

‘Bouta do a remontada on them?
About time.
Ah! One soldier! Ready to fight behind una god abi? You know sey Waffi man na short man? right? You know what has happened to all short dictators in history? Napoleon? Mussolini? Hitler and Abacha? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Gooners, we can't overthink this & get stress overload. Shoulders to the wheel time & hope our soldiers play not with trepidation but the hunger of illegal aliens seeking min wage :tic: :laugh:

On the real, we must walk b4 we run - it's all about tonight - let's do this!!!
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Waffiman wrote:Oh! I think it is time I come out to deal with scum in this place. I have been too gentle of late. The trolls have had their time, pissing their pathetic, swine, filth in this thread. Time to fight fire with fire.
Napoleon Complex! kai! Waffi don vex:

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Blukyt wrote:Arsenal/Arsene used to be brilliant and spotting talent early and acquiring them. Some big no brainer misses that really shocked me.
VVD was at Celtic and was passed up on, along with Wanyama.

I actually hoped Wenger would step and down and personally approach Klopp to take over from him when he left Dortmund.
Pocchetino was doing great things with young players on a budget at Southampton, I thought there is another perfect candidate to take over from Wenger but no. Seeing them do what they are doing at the respectively clubs is really painful to watch I won't even lie.
Not to worry these things go in circles, we need to get things right internally at our club first. Hopefully, we continue this summer with internal structural changes.

You forget, we are in transition, we have sold a lot of players bringing in a lot of players. We are not far off.
How many years is this transition going to take. You guys lied to the faithful that you cant be successful when you build a new stadium. The Likes of Bayern, Atletico and Spurs have proven that is a lie!

Waffi, you are not being fair at all. You know that you are a god to these people and anything that comes out of your mouth titilates their ears. Why do you continue to deceive and swindle them? Why? Is that the Christian thing to do? Actually, scratch that, considering what all the pastors are doing nowadays, it seems like the Christian thing to do. smh
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Gooner1 wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:....if we gooners are to be honest with ourselves.....we need to ask the right questions.......
how have TOTO made it to the UCL finals with near to no investment in the transfer market this summer?
how have they done it whilst upgrading their stadium?
how have they been able to hang on to their best players?
how have they been able to buy players without statsdna :rotf: :rotf: ?
No questions to ask. Once in a while you get a set of talented players. It has taken Spurs over 20 years to get there.

In that time Arsenal have done the same and won a lot of silverware. Let us see how long Spurs can sustain being in the top 4 and CL. Arsenal did for 22 years consecutively but it was not enough for you and many others here.

Why do you even mention as some sort of example for us? On what basis? What have they done that we have not done and more? Are Spurs league title contenders? They are not. They got to the final of a knockout competition, we have done it too.

You and others demeaned every Wenger win, claiming Wenger has not won the league etc. Now you are celebrating Spurs being in the final. That's hypocrisy.
....✋ you need to stop throwing insults at me.....it's very childish and uncouth.....if you don't want to have a mature discussion about how to improve our fortunes as a club, then kick the dust of your shoes and keep it moving.....
Wenger cannot compete with the machinations of modern day football, he has proved this to be true.....that's why he had to go....deal with it....
For the last time........don't say things I didn't say........
Not an insult, just stating facts. You may not like me calling you out, but I will. Because I recall vividly our debates on these issues. You cannot in one breath demand we win the league to keep a manager and then turn around moaning and using another club getting to a final as yardstick when you demeaned Wenger for getting to the final and not winning the CL.

The same club you are now using as a yardstick for success, are not and have never been league contenders. But for a certain Manager, only winning it was good enough.

My point remains, why are all the things you said were not good enough suddenly now good enough. What does that make you?

Okay, since I touched a raw nerve. I will use the word inconsistent. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...u never touched a raw nerve......I just want to put u in check when you claim something I did not say, then u base your whole thesis on the premise of something I never said in the first place.....whether it's TOTO, Chelshyt, Leicester......the argument remains the same.....wenger is gone and thankfully so.......
Absolute rubbish. Don't twist the issue. You posted using Spurs final as a yardstick, I called you out, because it represented a considerable shift in your position to the times Wenger was around when you talked about it all being about winning.

You use to complain about top 4 and CL qualification as a bad thing because we will not win it, so what is the point.

You said here many a time, the objective was to win. To you it was all about winning. So it is hypocritical to now use a club that has won and achieved what we once did as something to aspire to.

This is my point, and it remains my point. You suddenly changing your tune and asking we use a club that qualifies for top 4, not win a thing as a yardstick because they got to the final is arrant hypocrisy.

You are upset I used used the word hypocrisy. I then used the word inconsistent mockingly. BTW! I did not call you any names, but you still got angry because I called out your actions. Be angry, it does not change my position and the fact that I am right.
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.....again, ask anyone here and they will tell you whether I am upset or not :lol: :lol:
....not in the slightest my dear waffi......
What I will do is call you out whenever you make such stupid statements, to goad.... so that you can 'win' an argument
Firstly.....I wasn't arguing with u or anyone here....been there, done that.....but it seems to me that you are spoiling for a forum fight, which I will not entertain.....I have not changed my tune, Wenger had ample opportunity to win the EPL on several occasions and fell flat on his face.....end of
ALL teams that have visibly improved for all to see must be looked at and analysed whether they are Barcas/Reals/Citys of this world

TOTO is not an exception.....you just cannot disregard their improvements simply because they are local rivals, no
When Wenger was winning, they studied his success and implemented some of the clubs methods into their own, not just arsenal, but all successful clubs......now it is our turn to study others
......so stop whining over spilt milk, trying to win battles already lost that no one care about, only u in your little world......sheesh :roll:
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