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Please move to World Football

These stats are very impressive - especially when one considers the era he played in (no VAR, stricter offside law, more physical defenders, more liberal refereeing that allowed defenders to commit GBH on strikers without punishment, worse pitches etc).


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^stricter offside rules?! Nowadays players are called because their untied shoes laces were an eighth of a millimetre ahead of a centrehalf. That aside, Ruud was as pure as they come. Absolutely hated the sight of him 16 yards from Jen’s sticks. Lethal.
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Yes Coach - nowadays players are adjudged offside for their shoe laces being offside by VAR (a technology that did not exist in Ruud’s time). In his time strikers in onside positions had their goals disallowed for offside because a team mate standing in an offside position 15 yards away was “interfering with play”.
Coach wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:05 pm ^striker offside rules?! Nowadays players are called because their untied shoes laces were an eighth of a millimetre ahead of a centrehalf. That aside, Ruud was as pure as they come. Absolutely hated the sight of him 16 yards from Jen’s sticks. Lethal.
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^Dont think they were stricter or even close to the micromanaged offside rules of today. Each to their own.
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wiseone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:28 pm Please move to World Football

These stats are very impressive - especially when one considers the era he played in (no VAR, stricter offside law, more physical defenders, more liberal refereeing that allowed defenders to commit GBH on strikers without punishment, worse pitches etc).


Howmany of them goals were from penalties?
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What the?! 😳

Coach, you are either too young to remember that era or you are having a laugh.

Messi's goal 2nd goal in the World Cup final (and hundreds of his other goals) would have been disallowed for offside 25 years ago because any offside at any point in time, anywhere on the pitch by any player automatically = a free kick. Back then there were no active/inactive players or 2nd phase of play etc.

e.g. David Beckham scored a brilliant long range goal from 25 yards out in the 1999 FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal, but the goal was disallowed because a Man Utd player was laying down injured on the floor “in an offside position” on the opposite side of the pitch near the touchline (about 20 yards away from where Beckham scored from!).

That is the sort of insane refereeing that strikers from the RVN era had to deal with. They would absolutely salivate at the prospect of playing with VAR to award them extra penalties and the far more liberal offside laws today. RVN in today's game would be getting Haaland numbers of 50+ goals per season (at least).

Coach wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:56 am ^Dont think they were stricter or even close to the micromanaged offside rules of today. Each to their own.

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