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Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:10 pm
by wiseone
What is it with Man Utd and signing injury prone defenders. To be fair to ETH, Varane is the only player he had frequently rotated. He did that in order to manage the workload on Varane's famously fragile body.

Yet, Varane is injured AGAIN - and may be out for the remainder of the season (along with Licha, Jones, and Van de Beek). Varane joins a long illustrious list of injury prone Man Utd defenders:

Jones
The Twins
Bailly
Marcos Rojo
Ferdinand
Evans

Europe's big clubs make a fortune off Man Utd by selling them once great players with broken down bodies. This reminds me of the Schweinsteiger, Falcao, and Hargreaves signings.

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:52 pm
by wiseone
Leicester's James Maddison gave huge props to Aaron Wan-Bissaka. You can usually tell how much a fan knows about football based on their opinion of AWB. It is incredible that so many Man Utd fans want the club to sell AWB. He has played directly against some of the best forwards in the world and EPL (Neymar, Mbappe, Salah, Sane, Zaha) and has left the ground with them in his back pocket.

Today he anesthesised Mitoma (who has been Brighton's best forward this season).

Remember a few weeks ago when AWB cleanly executed a 92nd minute game saving tackle on Zaha when Zaha was clean through on goal? After the game, Zaha told Sky Sports that AWB is the only player in the world that could have executed that tackle.


Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:31 am
by wiseone
Shockingly, another Man Utd player is injured. This time Bruno Fernandes.


Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:27 am
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:38 pm I have said over and over again that playing out from the back is a risky and unnecessary tactic. Just because Pep's Barcelona and Man City did it well, every team across the world tries to copy it - even though they do not have technically brilliant players like Iniesta, Xavi, KDB, Silva and GKs like Ederson and Valdes with feet like outfield players who can receive the ball in tight spaces while being pressed, and still pass their way out of trouble.

Every single week, we see top level professional teams concede calamitous goals by trying to pass the ball in and around their box, and get dispossessed only a few yards from goal.

Yet they persist with this reckless tactic. WHY?
@wiseone, did you see how lovely it was when City was passing it from the back and destroying Arsenal

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:54 am
by wiseone
Yes. In the same game, did you see how Arsenal repeatedly got dispossessed near their goal, conceded 2 goals because of trying to pass out from the back, and took a 1-4 shellacking because of it?
benteke wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:27 am
@wiseone, did you see how lovely it was when City was passing it from the back and destroying Arsenal

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:00 pm
by wiseone
If it was another player I would not believe this story. However, Mark Red is nutty enough for this story to be credible.


Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:59 pm
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:54 am Yes. In the same game, did you see how Arsenal repeatedly got dispossessed near their goal, conceded 2 goals because of trying to pass out from the back, and took a 1-4 shellacking because of it?
benteke wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:27 am
@wiseone, did you see how lovely it was when City was passing it from the back and destroying Arsenal
What 2 goals dude.
Arsenal was perfectly fine passing from the back, they were only getting dispossessed as would be usual with sloppy passing, you get dispossessed anywhere on the pitch.
That kind of play had worked well for them this season

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:01 pm
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:00 pm If it was another player I would not believe this story. However, Mark Red is nutty enough for this story to be credible.

First it was Bailly speaking out about this, but he didn't mention specific names.
But Rojo is more direct and honest. :laugh:

That to me seems like a big problem that's what been bothering the United dressing room

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:29 am
by benteke
Anybody with the low down on the Manchester United proposed sale

I bumped into this earlier, not too sure what to believe

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 11:25 am
by wiseone

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 2:36 pm
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:25 am
Why is this the case, is it something to do with the manager tactics in away games or is it the players who become scared in away grounds

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 5:10 pm
by wiseone
In the 97th minute of a crucial game, what on earth was Luke Shaw doing flapping his hand in the air inside the penalty area as if he was waving to his family in the crowd?

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 10:31 pm
by Donzman
wiseone wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 5:10 pm In the 97th minute of a crucial game, what on earth was Luke Shaw doing flapping his hand in the air inside the penalty area as if he was waving to his family in the crowd?
It happens in the heat of the moment, tired minds.

Unprofessional but have to move on.

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 3:48 am
by wiseone
Plus De Gea. It is remarkable that a GK who is heralded as the best shot stopper in the game is so horrendous at facing penalties. If the opponent hits the penalty on target - it will be a goal. He has conceded a goal in every one if the last 20-something odd penalties he has faced.

When Man Utd had to face a penalty shoot out in the FA Cup against Brighton, I knew the only way Man Utd would win was if a Brighton player blasted the ball over the bar (as De Gea would not save anything on target).

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 7:42 pm
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 3:48 am Plus De Gea. It is remarkable that a GK who is heralded as the best shot stopper in the game is such a horrendous at facing penalties. If the opponent hits the penalty on target - it will be a goal. He has conceded a goal in every one if the last 20-something odd penalties he has faced.

When Man Utd had to face a penalty shoot out in the FA Cup against Brighton, I knew the only way Man Utd would win was if a Brighton player blasted the ball over the bar (as De Gea would not save anything on target).
United is collapsing right in front of the finish line, every game sees big chances missed and then some big blunders leading to goals.

Top 4 doesn't look promising anymore

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 10:16 pm
by mcal
benteke wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 7:42 pm
wiseone wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 3:48 am Plus De Gea. It is remarkable that a GK who is heralded as the best shot stopper in the game is such a horrendous at facing penalties. If the opponent hits the penalty on target - it will be a goal. He has conceded a goal in every one if the last 20-something odd penalties he has faced.

When Man Utd had to face a penalty shoot out in the FA Cup against Brighton, I knew the only way Man Utd would win was if a Brighton player blasted the ball over the bar (as De Gea would not save anything on target).
United is collapsing right in front of the finish line, every game sees big chances missed and then some big blunders leading to goals.

Top 4 doesn't look promising anymore
...they are going to be embarrassed at FA cup final vs City. Might as well forfeit, don't show.

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 10:37 pm
by wiseone
This reminds me of the 2015-16 season in which Man Utd was in the top 3 for the first few months of the season, won the FA Cup, but dropped key points in the final month of the season, and finished 5th.

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:13 pm
by wiseone

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 3:15 am
by benteke
wiseone wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 10:37 pm This reminds me of the 2015-16 season in which Man Utd was in the top 3 for the first few months of the season, won the FA Cup, but dropped key points in the final month of the season, and finished 5th.
They have 4 fixtures left.
But they don't look like they can win any game right now.

Very few goals, they don't score a lot of goals.

Out of the top 7 teams on the log table, all have scored at least 60 goals and above in league games . Manchester United sticks out because it has scored only 49 goals.

The goalscorer main Ronaldo left during the season.

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 4:34 am
by wiseone
Former Man Utd midfielder James Garner excelled in Everton's 5-1 win away at Brighton (the club and stadium where Man Utd lost a few days ago).


Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 5:06 am
by benteke
Anyway alls not lost.

United just has to win its home games and then avoid a lose vs Chelsea.

But they need to find another gear

United is still in control of its destiny, 1 point ahead of Liverpool with a game in hand.
United just need to find that last oomph, coz everyone is operating on fumes now, Ten Hag has to earn his money

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 11:09 pm
by mcal
wiseone wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 11:13 pm
...well, for the obvious reason. One is a foreigner the other is native :biggrin:

Re: Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 10:55 am
by wiseone