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tolahs wrote:We really should be looking for our next gaffer - what one finds out is some of those previously fancied for the gig struggle to win when expected to - Kloop's Liverpool are struggling despite no commitments in Europe; Now that Diego Simeone is trying to get AM to be expansive, he's struggling in the league - he also struggled way back @Riverplate. Kloop & Simeone are better off as underdogs w/o huge expectations
The geezer i am leaning towards - was a horrible captain of his country but he knows this game, it'll come down to whom he picks as assistants - Ladies & Gents - if he's thru with the coaching barge - let Titi takeover next season. Didn't see this one coming but Pep is elsewhere - not feeling the Juve dude or RB Leipzig geezer.
Pep coached the Barca B-team for some time.Titi havent done that. He is not ready. Allegri will definitely do far much better than Wenger with the same team. If we are willing to take a risk on Titi then we should take one on Hasenhüttl who is a far much better manager and more experienced( go and watch RB Leipzig games).
You get lost buying into that old thinking about experience - Allegri wants us cos of the EPL money & criticism at home - Mancini lobbies for the gig every time he's out of a job; We need a gaffer who understands our league, one who knows the structure of our club & will respect it. You mention Pep, he was hired at the time cos he was cheap - JM wanted the job - Pep's understanding of the structure of the club made it easier for him to do his magic - we all read the rumours last yr - Pep tried to come to Arsenal with Titi as his assistant - he was going to lean on Titi for the inner workings of the EPL. Watched Ralph Hasenhüttl vs Bayern - not impressed. Is he another geezer who does better as an underdog but not a frontrunner?
Luis Enrique(failed at Roma, done well at Barca) - he wasn't a popular choice but hell, his ideas moved the club forward.
Titi's a student of the game, has worked under different philosophies - i would judge him by the assistants he picks. Unlike a Ryan Giggs who hasn't any experience outside of ManU - Titi is covered - pick him & let's see us really show up.
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Coach wrote:Chaps, it would be wise for all to watch Coquelin vs Hazard once more. Best defensive midfielder in Europe, at the same stage in his career bla bla bla...in that moment, a perfect summation of Wengerism. Weak, wanton and waiting to be f**ked.
You undermine yourself gaffer - Hazard in full flow will wipe the floor with any DM(period).
As a gaffer, you ought to be more concerned with AW's instructions of playing our deep midfielders as box-2-box players - thereby exposing our backline to direct attack & frequently catching our DM outta position.
If you let Coq sit as a shield then his qualities & effectiveness show - Watford exposed the folly of that thinking midweek.
If I give you a good wine, you will see how it tastes and after you ask where it comes from,'' ""To put players in my team who are not good enough will not strengthen the England team, and would weaken the Arsenal team.''The only thing I can say is that whenever England do not win it is always my fault,even when I am not at the game".Wenger said.
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@Tolahs, on the contrary, that clip says it all. Coquelin was attempting to apprehend, or rather, foul Hazard. How in the world does one end up spun and dumped like clothes on a washing line caught up in a cyclone, whilst trying to commit a "take one for the team" foul? Wengerism in one moment. Weak and pathetic.
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bk-one wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
bk-one wrote:
tolahs wrote:We really should be looking for our next gaffer - what one finds out is some of those previously fancied for the gig struggle to win when expected to - Kloop's Liverpool are struggling despite no commitments in Europe; Now that Diego Simeone is trying to get AM to be expansive, he's struggling in the league - he also struggled way back @Riverplate. Kloop & Simeone are better off as underdogs w/o huge expectations
The geezer i am leaning towards - was a horrible captain of his country but he knows this game, it'll come down to whom he picks as assistants - Ladies & Gents - if he's thru with the coaching barge - let Titi takeover next season. Didn't see this one coming but Pep is elsewhere - not feeling the Juve dude or RB Leipzig geezer.
Pep coached the Barca B-team for some time.Titi havent done that. He is not ready. Allegri will definitely do far much better than Wenger with the same team. If we are willing to take a risk on Titi then we should take one on Hasenhüttl who is a far much better manager and more experienced( go and watch RB Leipzig games).
Is this an opinion or fact? :D
I wish i could say alternative facts but we both know thats your area of expertise :biggrin:
I asked a question, you have given your answer - which is no answer at all. That say it all. M :biggrin:

Your opinion of what you purport to be my area of expertise is exactly that - an opinion. :sneaky:

You know what they say about people who are quick to give an opinion about others on an issue but lack an opinion on the same issue. :lol: :lol:
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- what one finds out is some of those previously fancied for the gig struggle to win when expected to - Kloop's Liverpool are struggling despite no commitments in Europe; Now that Diego Simeone is trying to get AM to be expansive, he's struggling in the league - he also struggled way back @Riverplate. Kloop & Simeone are better off as underdogs w/o huge expectat

Shhhh stop making so much sense .... let the pathetic attention seeking drones keep talking to themselves while you make the right points :idea: :thumb:
I can't believe you both are posting the above nonsense with straight faces when a new coach is basically running at with the league and a sophomore coach is second.

Six of the last eight champions (assuming Chelsea win this season like it's looking increasingly likely) had managers that had been with them two seasons at the most. The only exception, Alex Ferguson. Three of the last four champs (again I'm including champs-in-waiting Chelsea) won with rookie coaches. The fourth, (Mourinho) won in his sophomore season. Yes you might wanna argue that he and Ranieri already had EPL experience but guess what, they both did well in their first stints. Mourinho won back to back titles in his first two seasons while Tinkerman took them from midtable status to perennial champions league qualifiers and eventual runners up.

So, please, your argument is bunkum.
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Skylolo wrote:I am going to take this 1 - 2 weeks at a time, let us try and beat Hull so we can at least got to Bayern with some confidence.

Arsene Wenger is Mr Arsenal, he has his flaws but as long as he is here I will support him and his team. Hope things go better for us in the CL and FA cup...
Spot on. The season is far from over, indeed there is a ton of football to play. This is why I have moved away from getting into talk about a new Manager.

Arsenal fans are already making mince meat of those journalists who have their Wenger out agenda cos of the title, but have given a pass to their nice guy Klopp and club Liverpool.

As I have already stated in other social media, it is delusional and wrong to fall for the Sky hype of a title race. There has never been a title race.

When the other clubs lost points during CL and Europa League weeks, Chelsea and Liverpool made hay by accumulating points due to their one game a week schedule. When the Xmas schedule came, Liverpool's thin squad was exposed by injuries.

Like Leicester last season, Chelsea have used the least players, been fortunate with injuries and have a lot of rest and recovery time between games. They have won the league, in hindsight, they had the league won in January - after the Xmas schedule. Any slim hope of Arsenal getting in contention was extinguished last Tuesday. The real race is for 2nd place unless Chelsea are struck down by bad luck with big game injuries.

What I challenge with relish, is this foul, rancid, divisive narrative that it is only Arsenal that have failed. The narrative being, Arsenal are out of the league in February, like last season and the seasons before. But it is patently false agendas driven BS. This season is neither like last season nor seasons before.

Let us all be honest and admit, none of Arsenal, Man City, ManU, Spuds and Liverpool were ever in a title race. Chelsea's squad and no European football has ensured there was never a title race this season.
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all this crap waffi is talking about doom and gloom.......i have been prepping myself for years...he is just waking up to the realisation :roll:
also, don't believe waffi's scare mongering......when wenger goes i see kronke going as well......the fans will not put up with his $#%
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bepanda wrote:You should never interview Kajifu right after the game ... this is what you get.
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I'm more in line with this Claude dude.
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waffi, there are 14 games left, we are 12 points behind

AFC will not win the EPL this season (fact not feelings). You can always hope, that is your prerogative.....
however past experience says otherwise

Once this season is over and Arsenal have once again failed to win the EPL, will you finally admit that I am right, and you are wrong
about wenger? :D
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Gooner1 wrote:waffi, there are 14 games left, we are 12 points behind

AFC will not win the EPL this season (fact not feelings). You can always hope, that is your prerogative.....
however past experience says otherwise

Once this season is over and Arsenal have once again failed to win the EPL, will you finally admit that I am right, and you are wrong
about wenger? :D
Nah. He's gonna say "let's see what happens during the summer window. There are plans for this and that and I trust Wenger to know what's best for the team". Then at the end of summer he'll say lets see how the season goes. Then mid-season guess what he'll say? Yup, the season isn't over yet, I'll wait till May".

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Waffiman wrote:
Skylolo wrote:I am going to take this 1 - 2 weeks at a time, let us try and beat Hull so we can at least got to Bayern with some confidence.

Arsene Wenger is Mr Arsenal, he has his flaws but as long as he is here I will support him and his team. Hope things go better for us in the CL and FA cup...
Spot on. The season is far from over, indeed there is a ton of football to play. This is why I have moved away from getting into talk about a new Manager.

Arsenal fans are already making mince meat of those journalists who have their Wenger out agenda cos of the title, but have given a pass to their nice guy Klopp and club Liverpool.

As I have already stated in other social media, it is delusional and wrong to fall for the Sky hype of a title race. There has never been a title race.

When the other clubs lost points during CL and Europa League weeks, Chelsea and Liverpool made hay by accumulating points due to their one game a week schedule. When the Xmas schedule came, Liverpool's thin squad was exposed by injuries.

Like Leicester last season, Chelsea have used the least players, been fortunate with injuries and have a lot of rest and recovery time between games. They have won the league, in hindsight, they had the league won in January - after the Xmas schedule. Any slim hope of Arsenal getting in contention was extinguished last Tuesday. The real race is for 2nd place unless Chelsea are struck down by bad luck with big game injuries.

What I challenge with relish, is this foul, rancid, divisive narrative that it is only Arsenal that have failed. The narrative being, Arsenal are out of the league in February, like last season and the seasons before. But it is patently false agendas driven BS. This season is neither like last season nor seasons before.

Let us all be honest and admit, none of Arsenal, Man City, ManU, Spuds and Liverpool were ever in a title race. Chelsea's squad and no European football has ensured there was never a title race this season.

Waffi while I agree with you that the absence of Europe has helped Chelshyt, Arsenal has failed and failed badly. Like I have said, I have given Arsene a Mulligan for all seasons until these last two. The league was in his hands and he blew it ..: end of story.

He has the budget but has not recruited properly. Same old problems of lacking an equal or even better replacement for Santi continues to dog this team. There were better partners for KOS yet we wasted money on Bunbling Mustafi .... blew a lottery haul on a clumsy game-losing poor mans Tom Huddlestone and how long will it take him to see that Cech and Ozil need to be replaced?

What does it take him to see that the goalie can't make game savig stops and when the going gets tough, Ozil goes missing ... an unbelievable development considering he is demanding his last major contract :scared: I mean If that can't motivate a player then nothing else will :curse:

It's clears that alexis' head has been turned like Payet and he wants out so what does Arsenal do about it? Again I never thought that this day would come but what more does he have to offer this club??

Same mistakes and same issues Year in and year out ... something has to change and can anyone see t happening with him?
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theYemster wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:
Coach wrote:@Cally, Alexis can go, in fact, all of them can go, they're all infected. It will be years in the wilderness but that brethren is what it will take. They should've marched Gandalf out back years ago and put a bullet in the back of his head. They didnt and let his Ebola spread.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
all this crap waffi is talking about doom and gloom.......i have been prepping myself for years...he is just waking up to the realisation :roll:
also, don't believe waffi's scare mongering......when wenger goes i see kronke going as well......the fans will not put up with his $#%
Arsenal is like a guy that's been "friend-zoned". He is close to the hot girl, comforts her and whatnot and maybe even gets to see her changing but never gets to bang her, not even first base. At the very best he gets a brotherly hug. Meanwhile the occasional jock pops up every now and then, dates and bangs her, and moves on while this loser watches on just happy to be friends with a hot chick. :)

Story of your life : no need to share it, some of us already know your condition :rotf: :rotf:
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theYemster wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:waffi, there are 14 games left, we are 12 points behind

AFC will not win the EPL this season (fact not feelings). You can always hope, that is your prerogative.....
however past experience says otherwise

Once this season is over and Arsenal have once again failed to win the EPL, will you finally admit that I am right, and you are wrong
about wenger? :D
Nah. He's gonna say "let's see what happens during the summer window. There are plans for this and that and I trust Wenger to know what's best for the team". Then at the end of summer he'll say lets see how the season goes. Then mid-season guess what he'll say? Yup, the season isn't over yet, I'll wait till May".

Tomorrow never comes.
Those of us that go to the stadium know that we are cheated out of the EPL title. Chelsea was allowed to use the same players while we were made to use different players due to injuries etc. Then add the referees who are always against us. Also we are competing against financially doped clubs.

Anyway, we are winning the CL so no shaking. We have a complete team with the best coach and no EPL referee in the CL.
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anikulapo wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Skylolo wrote:I am going to take this 1 - 2 weeks at a time, let us try and beat Hull so we can at least got to Bayern with some confidence.

Arsene Wenger is Mr Arsenal, he has his flaws but as long as he is here I will support him and his team. Hope things go better for us in the CL and FA cup...
Spot on. The season is far from over, indeed there is a ton of football to play. This is why I have moved away from getting into talk about a new Manager.

Arsenal fans are already making mince meat of those journalists who have their Wenger out agenda cos of the title, but have given a pass to their nice guy Klopp and club Liverpool.

As I have already stated in other social media, it is delusional and wrong to fall for the Sky hype of a title race. There has never been a title race.

When the other clubs lost points during CL and Europa League weeks, Chelsea and Liverpool made hay by accumulating points due to their one game a week schedule. When the Xmas schedule came, Liverpool's thin squad was exposed by injuries.

Like Leicester last season, Chelsea have used the least players, been fortunate with injuries and have a lot of rest and recovery time between games. They have won the league, in hindsight, they had the league won in January - after the Xmas schedule. Any slim hope of Arsenal getting in contention was extinguished last Tuesday. The real race is for 2nd place unless Chelsea are struck down by bad luck with big game injuries.

What I challenge with relish, is this foul, rancid, divisive narrative that it is only Arsenal that have failed. The narrative being, Arsenal are out of the league in February, like last season and the seasons before. But it is patently false agendas driven BS. This season is neither like last season nor seasons before.

Let us all be honest and admit, none of Arsenal, Man City, ManU, Spuds and Liverpool were ever in a title race. Chelsea's squad and no European football has ensured there was never a title race this season.

Waffi while I agree with you that the absence of Europe has helped Chelshyt, Arsenal has failed and failed badly. Like I have said, I have given Arsene a Mulligan for all seasons until these last two. The league was in his hands and he blew it ..: end of story.

He has the budget but has not recruited properly. Same old problems of lacking an equal or even better replacement for Santi continues to dog this team. There were better partners for KOS yet we wasted money on Bunbling Mustafi .... blew a lottery haul on a clumsy game-losing poor mans Tom Huddlestone and how long will it take him to see that Cech and Ozil need to be replaced?

What does it take him to see that the goalie can't make game savig stops and when the going gets tough, Ozil goes missing ... an unbelievable development considering he is demanding his last major contract :scared: I mean If that can't motivate a player then nothing else will :curse:

It's clears that alexis' head has been turned like Payet and he wants out so what does Arsenal do about it? Again I never thought that this day would come but what more does he have to offer this club??

Same mistakes and same issues Year in and year out ... something has to change and can anyone see t happening with him?
STFU aniks you have been brainwashed by Le grove...signed waffi...... :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

BTW you're in 1000% spot on.

Also not a JCL you called issues with likes of Ramsey, Cech and Ozil ages ago.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
Waffiman wrote:
Skylolo wrote:I am going to take this 1 - 2 weeks at a time, let us try and beat Hull so we can at least got to Bayern with some confidence.

Arsene Wenger is Mr Arsenal, he has his flaws but as long as he is here I will support him and his team. Hope things go better for us in the CL and FA cup...
Spot on. The season is far from over, indeed there is a ton of football to play. This is why I have moved away from getting into talk about a new Manager.

Arsenal fans are already making mince meat of those journalists who have their Wenger out agenda cos of the title, but have given a pass to their nice guy Klopp and club Liverpool.

As I have already stated in other social media, it is delusional and wrong to fall for the Sky hype of a title race. There has never been a title race.

When the other clubs lost points during CL and Europa League weeks, Chelsea and Liverpool made hay by accumulating points due to their one game a week schedule. When the Xmas schedule came, Liverpool's thin squad was exposed by injuries.

Like Leicester last season, Chelsea have used the least players, been fortunate with injuries and have a lot of rest and recovery time between games. They have won the league, in hindsight, they had the league won in January - after the Xmas schedule. Any slim hope of Arsenal getting in contention was extinguished last Tuesday. The real race is for 2nd place unless Chelsea are struck down by bad luck with big game injuries.

What I challenge with relish, is this foul, rancid, divisive narrative that it is only Arsenal that have failed. The narrative being, Arsenal are out of the league in February, like last season and the seasons before. But it is patently false agendas driven BS. This season is neither like last season nor seasons before.

Let us all be honest and admit, none of Arsenal, Man City, ManU, Spuds and Liverpool were ever in a title race. Chelsea's squad and no European football has ensured there was never a title race this season.

Waffi while I agree with you that the absence of Europe has helped Chelshyt, Arsenal has failed and failed badly. Like I have said, I have given Arsene a Mulligan for all seasons until these last two. The league was in his hands and he blew it ..: end of story.

He has the budget but has not recruited properly. Same old problems of lacking an equal or even better replacement for Santi continues to dog this team. There were better partners for KOS yet we wasted money on Bunbling Mustafi .... blew a lottery haul on a clumsy game-losing poor mans Tom Huddlestone and how long will it take him to see that Cech and Ozil need to be replaced?

What does it take him to see that the goalie can't make game savig stops and when the going gets tough, Ozil goes missing ... an unbelievable development considering he is demanding his last major contract :scared: I mean If that can't motivate a player then nothing else will :curse:

It's clears that alexis' head has been turned like Payet and he wants out so what does Arsenal do about it? Again I never thought that this day would come but what more does he have to offer this club??

Same mistakes and same issues Year in and year out ... something has to change and can anyone see t happening with him?
STFU aniks you have been brainwashed by Le grove...signed waffi...... :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

BTW you're in 1000% spot on.

Also not a JCL you called issues with likes of Ramsey, Cech and Ozil ages ago.

The issues with Ozil and Ramshyt are particularly galling almost on the same level as Denilson and Almunia :curse: :curse:

Players like this disrupt team chemistry and set bad examples for hard working and impressionable teammates. I mean why should they work hard and try and impress when they know the Teachers pets will always get to play over them???

Believe me players are not stupid, they know who can play and who can't. They also know when a coach is weak and playing favorites when they see it. Like I've said a million times when Arsenal have tough games on the road they should just make Ozil a healthy scratch ... if he wants out and wants to sulk over it then so be it ..: the guy is a Bonafide Pvssy and a pathetic, spineless weasel. His pink and yellow streak was so evident yesterday but he personifies the new age typical Arsene player ..:

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I would bet you one thing, if we had Alderwereild or Van Dijk next to KOS and Nzonzi or Wanyama instead of Le coq, our result would have been much better than the travesty at the bridge ... very easy quality bargains that would have cost less than the money we paid for Xhaka and Callumity Chambers???

Digest that for a minute :curse:
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anikulapo wrote:TG:

I would bet you one thing, if we had Alderwereild or Van Dijk next to KOS and Nzonzi or Wanyama instead of Le coq, our result would have been much better than the travesty at the bridge ... very easy quality bargains that would have cost less than the money we paid for Xhaka and Callumity Chambers???

Digest that for a minute :curse:
:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:

Whilst we laud the amazing football off invincible era we forget how in the PL Arsenal pummeled teams into submission physically. Be it Lauren, Cole, Sol, Keown, Kolo, Gilberto, PV4, Edu, Razor..these men devoured the opposition, they enjoyed the grind, they embraced the battle between the lines.

This is truth for teams that are champions you’ve got to love the duress. You’ve got to love the grind. You’ve got to love digging in and knowing you’re going to get it done. Last decade Arsenal loathe the duress, they loathe the grind, they have no desire or hunger to stay in their fox hole and fight for every blade of grass.
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tolahs wrote:
bk-one wrote:
tolahs wrote:We really should be looking for our next gaffer - what one finds out is some of those previously fancied for the gig struggle to win when expected to - Kloop's Liverpool are struggling despite no commitments in Europe; Now that Diego Simeone is trying to get AM to be expansive, he's struggling in the league - he also struggled way back @Riverplate. Kloop & Simeone are better off as underdogs w/o huge expectations
The geezer i am leaning towards - was a horrible captain of his country but he knows this game, it'll come down to whom he picks as assistants - Ladies & Gents - if he's thru with the coaching barge - let Titi takeover next season. Didn't see this one coming but Pep is elsewhere - not feeling the Juve dude or RB Leipzig geezer.
Pep coached the Barca B-team for some time.Titi havent done that. He is not ready. Allegri will definitely do far much better than Wenger with the same team. If we are willing to take a risk on Titi then we should take one on Hasenhüttl who is a far much better manager and more experienced( go and watch RB Leipzig games).
You get lost buying into that old thinking about experience - Allegri wants us cos of the EPL money & criticism at home - Mancini lobbies for the gig every time he's out of a job; We need a gaffer who understands our league, one who knows the structure of our club & will respect it. You mention Pep, he was hired at the time cos he was cheap - JM wanted the job - Pep's understanding of the structure of the club made it easier for him to do his magic - we all read the rumours last yr - Pep tried to come to Arsenal with Titi as his assistant - he was going to lean on Titi for the inner workings of the EPL. Watched Ralph Hasenhüttl vs Bayern - not impressed. Is he another geezer who does better as an underdog but not a frontrunner?
Luis Enrique(failed at Roma, done well at Barca) - he wasn't a popular choice but hell, his ideas moved the club forward.
Titi's a student of the game, has worked under different philosophies - i would judge him by the assistants he picks. Unlike a Ryan Giggs who hasn't any experience outside of ManU - Titi is covered - pick him & let's see us really show up.
i have watched all their games(lived in Leipzig for 4 years) since they moved to the bundesliga and I can tell you Hasenhüttl is really good. I agree that they got overwhelmed by Bayern but prior to that they have beaten all the other traditional big teams with a very young team led by a very good manager.I can only tell you to go and watch them again for the next couple of games.

Marco Silva, a manager with a decorated CV just joined Hull City a team languishing at the bottom of the table and do you think he did it because he enjoys fighting for survival...hell no....money, nothing else. Conte came to epl for money and allegri will be coming for money too but that doesnt change the fact that they are both very good managers(which I cant deny Arsene Wenger used to be).

Titi might know the ins and outs of the club but he is not ready. Titi never even coached the U16 . he was the assistant. Let him learn and later he can come to coach this team but not now.
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Arsenal problem is more than personal issues. To me, it is more a problem of ATTITUDE. When Sanchez joined Arsenal, every time he lost the ball, he would run the length of the pitch to win it back. Today, when he loses the ball , he will try only half hearted to win it back. Because nobody hold him accountable for actually defensive efforts.
Re-watch the first and second goals conceded yesterday in slow motion. Coquelin, then Walcott efforts are things that could only happen at Arsenal. Coquelin made the wrong decision 3 times on that play. When Hazard makes the pass to the wing, Coquelin is in front of him. Then Hazard makes a run into the box, Mustafi follows Hazard (Coquelin could have followed Hazard), but now that Mustafi is out of position, Coquelin MUST run back to take Mustafi position inside, which Coquelin doesn't. Bellerin has to switch over to cover Costa. Luckily, the ball hits the cross bar and comes back into play. Coquelin doesn't even react. Again Bellerin has to run to try and challenge a ball, that both Coquelin and Walcott should have been able to. Both are taller and stronger than Bellerin and both were close enough to challenge for that ball. Poor Bellerin paid the price for pathetic play by his team mates. The first goal is the basic fundamental role of both the DM and in this particular instance the wide out players. When your centerback are forced outside the box, your DM should replace them inside the box. The wide out midfielder should also help mark his man. But, when you watch Arsenal games, most of the time the goals we concede are the result of these types of play. LACK OF EFFORT. It is NOT about formations, it is NOT about Giroud should start or Giroud shouldn't start ... It is about the simplest effort plays.
Wenger never holds his players accountable for EFFORT.
On Chelsea second goal, Hazard actually won the ball from Arsenal in his own half. Please tell this to Arsenal's #11 ... If you want to know the difference between Arsenal and Chelsea, look no further than #11 vs #10 on the pitch. It is like night and day.
One is willing to do defensive work, and take on the other team mano a mano. The other one could only be seen on corner kicks.
I doubt Wenger will address any of these issues during team meetings or video sessions.
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anikulapo wrote:TG:
I would bet you one thing, if we had Alderwereild or Van Dijk next to KOS and Nzonzi or Wanyama instead of Le coq, our result would have been much better than the travesty at the bridge ... very easy quality bargains that would have cost less than the money we paid for Xhaka and Callumity Chambers???
Digest that for a minute :curse:
:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:
Whilst we laud the amazing football off invincible era we forget how in the PL Arsenal pummeled teams into submission physically. Be it Lauren, Cole, Sol, Keown, Kolo, Gilberto, PV4, Edu, Razor..these men devoured the opposition, they enjoyed the grind, they embraced the battle between the lines.
This is truth for teams that are champions you’ve got to love the duress. You’ve got to love the grind. You’ve got to love digging in and knowing you’re going to get it done. Last decade Arsenal loathe the duress, they loathe the grind, they have no desire or hunger to stay in their fox hole and fight for every blade of grass.
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Gooner1 wrote: all this crap waffi is talking about doom and gloom.......i have been prepping myself for years...he is just waking up to the realisation :roll:
also, don't believe waffi's scare mongering......when wenger goes i see kronke going as well......the fans will not put up with his $#%
You are ejaculating prematurely. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hence my laughter.

Season is far from over. A lot can and will happen between now and May. I still have a lot of confidence and belief in my Manager, team and club. I always wait till May.

I know Wenger has a contract he has refused to sign. His decision will be made in May and it depends on how the team performs between now and then.

I have stated my position, I am concerned at the position we find ourselves with a lot of our players. To sign better players and improve, we must keep one of Ozil of Sanchez. This will only happen if the Manager stays. If he goes, I am well informed some more of our top players will follow. As for Sanchez, I am tolerant of him, never been a huge fan. I believe we can do better.

You can get excited about whoever, nothing is decided. Wenger holds the key and I am hopeful of a strong finish to the season. We get that and win silverware, the chances are he will sign for another 3 years.

As for your Kroenke talk, it shows you really do not understand Arsenal. What fans. I hope you do not mean the league up mouthed toothless braggarts on social media. The vast majority of fans that go to the Emirates cannot be ars<ed about Kroenke. In fact they are glad that Russian does not own the club.
:biggrin: waffi......u have been getting stroked gently whilst wenger whispers sweet nothings into your ear for the last 12 seasons
tell me.....what pattern is this season following?.....looks like groundhog day to me....

the problem is that you refuse to see the reality of the situation....
TBH, I am bored of wenger failing to really hang and compete for the title before spring starts, and I am bored of your excuses year in and year out.
You base your opinions on the past whilst refusing to face the realities of the future........
fans like you are the problem
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bepanda wrote:Arsenal problem is more than personal issues. To me, it is more a problem of ATTITUDE. When Sanchez joined Arsenal, every time he lost the ball, he would run the length of the pitch to win it back. Today, when he loses the ball , he will try only half hearted to win it back. Because nobody hold him accountable for actually defensive efforts.
Re-watch the first and second goals conceded yesterday in slow motion. Coquelin, then Walcott efforts are things that could only happen at Arsenal. Coquelin made the wrong decision 3 times on that play. When Hazard makes the pass to the wing, Coquelin is in front of him. Then Hazard makes a run into the box, Mustafi follows Hazard (Coquelin could have followed Hazard), but now that Mustafi is out of position, Coquelin MUST run back to take Mustafi position inside, which Coquelin doesn't. Bellerin has to switch over to cover Costa. Luckily, the ball hits the cross bar and comes back into play. Coquelin doesn't even react. Again Bellerin has to run to try and challenge a ball, that both Coquelin and Walcott should have been able to. Both are taller and stronger than Bellerin and both were close enough to challenge for that ball. Poor Bellerin paid the price for pathetic play by his team mates. The first goal is the basic fundamental role of both the DM and in this particular instance the wide out players. When your centerback are forced outside the box, your DM should replace them inside the box. The wide out midfielder should also help mark his man. But, when you watch Arsenal games, most of the time the goals we concede are the result of these types of play. LACK OF EFFORT. It is NOT about formations, it is NOT about Giroud should start or Giroud shouldn't start ... It is about the simplest effort plays.
Wenger never holds his players accountable for EFFORT.

:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:
Whilst we laud the amazing football off invincible era we forget how in the PL Arsenal pummeled teams into submission physically. Be it Lauren, Cole, Sol, Keown, Kolo, Gilberto, PV4, Edu, Razor..these men devoured the opposition, they enjoyed the grind, they embraced the battle between the lines.
This is truth for teams that are champions you’ve got to love the duress. You’ve got to love the grind. You’ve got to love digging in and knowing you’re going to get it done. Last decade Arsenal loathe the duress, they loathe the grind, they have no desire or hunger to stay in their fox hole and fight for every blade of grass.
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Many moons or weeks ago I pointed out this effort thing and I remember waffi writing back a thesis that it was not effort or lack off but mistakes yada yada.. Wenger himself has not been held accountable for a lack of effort why would he hold his players accountable?

ON another note ..but similar a friend of mine predicted allowing players like Ozil and Ramsey continually get away with lazy play will trickle down to the other players ..why would they keep stressing themselves ..when someone is better paid is getting away with murder.
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