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Bigpokey24 wrote:chelsea needs a new manager fast
why? una no like chewing gum face anymore? :woot:
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[quote="Bigpokey24"]feather weight players full this Chelsea squad[/quote
:agree: hope chewing gum face sign more of such players.
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kajifu wrote:Please can someone tell why almost all teams fall flat with a man down?
I have seen only A.Madrid,Man city and Barca play a man down and you will not notice it even.

It's all on the manager. It should be one of the practices they should be having. Managers need to get the team ready for such eventualities, which happen a lot in football.
:agree: I still remember Arsenal w ill struggle with even low side teams playing a man down.

I watch Chelsea vs Barca with barca 10 man outplayed chelsea at the bridge with loaded team from Lampard,Essien,Drogba ,Ballack etc in Chelsea line up.
I hope Arteta is smart on this,we play Chelsea a man down last season and still almost beat them at the bridge :rotf:
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The game was even until the red card. In spite of their possession, I doubt that Pool had more than 1 shot on target in the first half. Then Kepa had to gift them a goal to make matters worse.

That said, the club has brought in a lot of players to address weaknesses from last season but apart from Werner, they are all injured or not football fit. Not much a coach can do about that. Nor can the manager expect that his defender will fall asleep on the job and take a red card and his goalie pass a ball directly to Mane.
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I watch Chelsea vs Barca with barca 10 man outplayed chelsea at the bridge with loaded team from Lampard,Essien,Drogba ,Ballack etc in Chelsea line up.
I hope Arteta is smart on this,we play Chelsea a man down last season and still almost beat them at the bridge :rotf:
Come again? Google Barca vs Chelsea at the Camp Nou in 2012 wrt playing with 10 men against Barca ... Hint: there's only one club in London with a European Cup.
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green4life wrote:The game was even until the red card. In spite of their possession, I doubt that Pool had more than 1 shot on target in the first half. Then Kepa had to gift them a goal to make matters worse.

That said, the club has brought in a lot of players to address weaknesses from last season but apart from Werner, they are all injured or not football fit. Not much a coach can do about that. Nor can the manager expect that his defender will fall asleep on the job and take a red card and his goalie pass a ball directly to Mane.

I was surprised Chelsea didn't concede in the first half and I only joined in the second half.

The coach may not be able to prevent some things on the field, but how the team responds after going a man down should not be one of those things.
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green4life wrote:The game was even until the red card. In spite of their possession, I doubt that Pool had more than 1 shot on target in the first half. Then Kepa had to gift them a goal to make matters worse.

That said, the club has brought in a lot of players to address weaknesses from last season but apart from Werner, they are all injured or not football fit. Not much a coach can do about that. Nor can the manager expect that his defender will fall asleep on the job and take a red card and his goalie pass a ball directly to Mane.

I was surprised Chelsea didn't concede in the first half and I only joined in the second half.

The coach may not be able to prevent some things on the field, but how the team responds after going a man down should not be one of those things.
Given the 10 man situation, the second half was first about focus and concentration defensively and secondarily about counters. James lost concentration on marking Mane for the first goal while Kepa took his poor performances to another level by gifting them a goal.

Against this type of opponent there is little room for error. If you lose concentration you will be punished. Christensen in the first half and James in the second half proved costly against their most dangerous player (Mane). The coach can tell you what to do but sometimes you have to learn from experience.
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Kepa is a goner, lamps was just holding his tongue during the press conference. Chelsea needs muscle in the middle. A Mikel, Essien or Maka type holding player and not some weak light weight player(s). Kepa is the worst Keeper I have ever seen in goal for Chelsea. Akpeyi is better than kepa
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I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...
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txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.
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balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.
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txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...
I feel that Lampard is not exactly helping Kepa's confidence.
Why. Because of the post match interview i heard, it didn't sound alright to me, it suggests that all has not been well all along behind the scenes.
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benteke wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...
I feel that Lampard is not exactly helping Kepa's confidence.
Why. Because of the post match interview i heard, it didn't sound alright to me, it suggests that all has not been well all along behind the scenes.
None of the top managers in the game would've responded in the way he did about the 2nd goal. Not even a manager on Brandan Roger's level.
This has happened to Allison. Also to Ederson. Schmeichel. Ter Stegen...

But he's a CYA manager..
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balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.

And if Mendy makes the same mistake?
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green4life wrote:The game was even until the red card. In spite of their possession, I doubt that Pool had more than 1 shot on target in the first half. Then Kepa had to gift them a goal to make matters worse.

That said, the club has brought in a lot of players to address weaknesses from last season but apart from Werner, they are all injured or not football fit. Not much a coach can do about that. Nor can the manager expect that his defender will fall asleep on the job and take a red card and his goalie pass a ball directly to Mane.
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txj wrote:
balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.

And if Mendy makes the same mistake?
The best have made mistakes. Making 1, 2, 3, mistakes is fine if given an opportunity the player redeems himself somewhat. When making a mistake becomes an alltag for a player, it's time for that player to go.

Liverpool replaced 2 goalkeepers since Klopp became your coach. He didn't stick with them to build their confidence.
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green4life wrote:
kajifu wrote:
I watch Chelsea vs Barca with barca 10 man outplayed chelsea at the bridge with loaded team from Lampard,Essien,Drogba ,Ballack etc in Chelsea line up.
I hope Arteta is smart on this,we play Chelsea a man down last season and still almost beat them at the bridge :rotf:
Come again? Google Barca vs Chelsea at the Camp Nou in 2012 wrt playing with 10 men against Barca ... Hint: there's only one club in London with a European Cup.
You mean Champions League? European trophies have been won by other teams.
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balo wrote:
txj wrote:
balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.

And if Mendy makes the same mistake?
The best have made mistakes. Making 1, 2, 3, mistakes is fine if given an opportunity the player redeems himself somewhat. When making a mistake becomes an alltag for a player, it's time for that player to go.

Liverpool replaced 2 goalkeepers since Klopp became your coach. He didn't stick with them to build their confidence.
Actually he did. But its apples and oranges.

The txfer fee for both of those two GKs you reference (Mignolet/Karius) added together is not up to a third of Kepa's fees...
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txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...
Wait till they get hold of Mendy. Raisin. Porridge.
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txj wrote:
balo wrote:
txj wrote:
balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.

And if Mendy makes the same mistake?
The best have made mistakes. Making 1, 2, 3, mistakes is fine if given an opportunity the player redeems himself somewhat. When making a mistake becomes an alltag for a player, it's time for that player to go.

Liverpool replaced 2 goalkeepers since Klopp became your coach. He didn't stick with them to build their confidence.
Actually he did. But its apples and oranges.

The txfer fee for both of those two GKs you reference (Mignolet/Karius) added together is not up to a third of Kepa's fees...

You are thinking money, we are thinking there's a need to plug repeating mistakes that is costing the club points. At some point a decision has to be made. If Mendy rises to the challenge, Chelsea will have to take a loss and move Kepa on.
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balo wrote:
txj wrote:
balo wrote:
txj wrote:I remember when Courtois was similarly being criticized by Chelsea fans and the entire English media and their grandma...

Kepa is not a bad keeper. Just going thru a period of loss of confidence...

The mistake for the 2nd goal has been made by just about every top keeper in the world. Its a risk and reward thing...


He has had more than one season to adjust. I have no problem with him regaining his confidence on the bench.

And if Mendy makes the same mistake?
The best have made mistakes. Making 1, 2, 3, mistakes is fine if given an opportunity the player redeems himself somewhat. When making a mistake becomes an alltag for a player, it's time for that player to go.

Liverpool replaced 2 goalkeepers since Klopp became your coach. He didn't stick with them to build their confidence.
same with City, Hart and Bravo
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