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I am surprised more was not made of the blatant handball by Willian in the Man U v Chelsea game a few days ago. The ref failed to award a PK to Man U even though Willian controlled the ball with his arm:

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Manchester United denied blatant penalty as Louis van Gaal prays for late goal
Chelsea star Willian handles in box but hosts deprived of spot-kick
Willian blatantly handballs in the box but Manchester United are denied a penalty


By TOBY GANNON
published 14:12, 28 Dec 2015

Chelsea star Willian has been one of the better Blues this season, scoring twice and assisting five times in the Premier League.

But it was the Brazilian who almost served LVG and United three points in their Old Trafford clash today.

The winger was under no pressure in his own box when the ball bounced off his stomach and out of control — before the forward, obviously and under referee Martin Atkinson’s nose, handled it.

United half-heartedly appealed for the penalty but had they seen TV replays, would surely have bombarded Atkinson with protests and pleas.
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...and of course there was the Drinkwater foul inside the area on Depay past weekend, which was given asa FK outside the box (even though it was clearly inside the area). That decision had major implications and gave Leicester the point that crowned them champions, as well as virtually ending Man Utd's Champions league hopes.
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Man Utd were denied a blatant penalty yesterday against Hull when David Meyler handballed Valencia's cross. It was so blatant - as Meyler actually moved his arm towards the ball to stop the cross. If Rashford had not scored that injury time winner, I am sure Jose would have had plenty to say about the referee and linesman both missing that blatant handball and not awarding a penalty to Man Utd.
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wiseone wrote:Man Utd were denied a blatant penalty yesterday against Hull when David Meyler handballed Valencia's cross. It was so blatant - as Meyler actually moved his arm towards the ball to stop the cross. If Rashford had not scored that injury time winner, I am sure Jose would have had plenty to say about the referee and linesman both missing that blatant handball and not awarding a penalty to Man Utd.
Where did all that injury time come from....?
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In other news the Feyenoord last night goal was offside.

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The ref had a shocker today. To be fair he gave bad decisions against both teams:

1) Mark Red's first half two footed tackle was reckless.

2) Was Pogba offside for the first goal?

3) Failed to book Cabaye for a blatant dive.

4) Failed to give red/yellow card to Lee for a shocking knee high studs up tackle on Bailly's knee (who knows if that contributed to Bailly having to go off injured?).

5) By far the worst decisions occured in the space of about 45 seconds: * the ref's failure to give a penalty for that blatant handball by Joe Ledley (and then incorrectly disallowing Johnny Kill's goal for a bogus offside about 45 seconds later). How could the ref not see that blatant handball?! Ledley actually hit the ball away with his arm like a volleyball player!



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United (2-1) Boro

Another shocker of a game by Lee Mason.

Ibra's perfectly legit goal, disallowed for a high kick, when V Valdes was nowhere near Zlatan

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It is a good thing Man Utd won that game (for Lee Mason's sake). The disallowed Zlatan goal was an absolutely shocking decision with major implications. Had that goal stood, Zlatan would have tied with Messi as the world's top goalscorer in the year 2016. It was an awful decision for "high boot" since the Boro GK Valdes was about 5 feet away from Zlatan when Zlatan connected to volley the ball into the net. Then Mason refused to award a penalty in the 81-82 minute for a blatant hack on the edge of the 6 yard box on Martial. At times it felt like Man Utd were playing against 11 Boro players AND the ref.

Now consider that the ref Lee Mason is a cousin of the Middlesbrough assistant coach and it looks bad. If a ref who was a cousin of one of the Man Utd coaches had a performance like that and gave decisions in favour of Man Utd, we would never hear the end of intergalactic conspiracy theories between Man Utd, SAF, the FA, UEFA, and NASA.

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Another shocker of a game by Lee Mason.

Ibra's perfectly legit goal, disallowed for a high kick, when V Valdes was nowhere near Zlatan
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Manchester United have suffered 14 terrible referee decisions this season

Man Utd were the victims of another refereeing howler in the fixture vs Middlesbrough but it was not the first time they have suffered this season.


By Samuel Luckhurst

12:24, 1 JAN 2017Updated12:46, 1 JAN 2017

It is little surprise Jose Mourinho has been sent off twice this season when you consider the multitude of refereeing howlers Manchester United have suffered.

The ludicrous Lee Mason became the latest official to irk United with his inexplicable decision to disallow Zlatan Ibrahimovic's acrobatic finish against Middlesbrough on New Year's Eve. It was not his only mistake in United's win and Mourinho took to laughing at the cock-ups, rather than crying.

Mourinho and United seem to have brought out the worst in referees this term and have been left aggrieved on numerous occasions in recent months...

United 1-2 City. Referee: Mark Clattenburg

Ander Herrera's and Marcus Rashford's half-time introductions had pegged back City after a listless first 40 minutes from United but a pulsating derby was marred by the calamitous Clattenburg's decision to ignore Claudio Bravo's dangerous challenge on Wayne Rooney.

The catastrophic Bravo miscontrolled a back-pass and lunged at Rooney inside his own penalty area. The foul was patent and merited a red card and penalty, yet Clattenburg did not raise his whistle and City won the game.
The decision still rankles with Mourinho.

"I'm not speaking about the points against Manchester City that we lost and we shouldn't," he said just two weeks ago. "Because it was a penalty and a red card, and 2-2 and 30 more minutes to go."

Number of bad decisions against United: One

Feyenoord 1-0 United. Referee: Jesus Gil Manzano

Another defeat in which an official's error did not mask United's anaemic efforts, Nicolai Jorgensen was offside when he received the ball to cross for Tonny Vilhena to strike the winner in Mourinho's Europa League opener.

"We were trying to win and they were trying not to lose," Mourinho said. "We felt like they were collapsing a bit physically, they were in trouble and it was that moment in which we lost the game. It was double unlucky because it was a clear offside."

Number of bad decisions against United: One

Watford 3-1 United. Referee: Michael Oliver

Like the City and Feyenoord games, this was a defeat in which the referee's influence did not overshadow United's shortcomings. Watford were deserved winners against a slack United who had lost their previous two fixtures.

They also cancelled out Etienne Capoue's contentious opener. Miguel Britos did get the ball with his tackle on Anthony Martial - but only after he had made contact with the Frenchman's ankle.

"The referee and the linesman's mistake is not under my control," Mourinho said. "I can't do anything to improve it. We cannot control the referee, we cannot control the lucky moments."

Number of bad decisions against United: One
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Man first. Ball second

Chelsea 4-0 United. Referee: Martin Atkinson

There are few referees who embody the opposite of common sense more prolifically than Martin Atkinson. United supporters, in particular, have become so accustomed to his perplexing officiating they are braced for disappointment when the most glaring of transgressions are committed against them with Atkinson in charge.

Just like the City and Watford defeats, the referee should not have blighted a comprehensive Chelsea victory yet Atkinson managed to irk United for the third game at Stamford Bridge. David Luiz - who has benefited from the myopic Atkinson's refereeing in the past - escaped with a yellow card after he embedded his studs on Marouane Fellaini's shin with the scoreline 2-0.

When he was asked about the flashpoint, Mourinho replied: "You know, I leave it for you. Because after a defeat 4-0, if I'm going to speak about the referee, you are going to jump [to conclusions]."

Number of bad decisions against United: One
Luiz's and Atkinson's partnership returned to haunt United
Luiz's and Atkinson's partnership returned to haunt United

United 0-0 Burnley. Referee: Mark Clattenburg

"I was analysing the game back, what could I have done differently, regretting one or two situations of course," Clattenburg told AP of his performance. "I just drove past [my home] and I was further up north than I should have been."

United have been awarded one penalty all season in the Premier League but were denied another in the infuriating stalemate with Burnley when Jon Flanagan appeared to trip Matteo Darmian in the first-half. The incident led to an enraged Mourinho confronting Clattenburg at half-time and being dismissed to the stands.

Mourinho was also apoplectic when Clattenburg flourished a second yellow card after Ander Herrera fouled Dean Marney. Herrera had slipped and tried to pull out of the challenge but upended the Burnley midfielder yards away from Clattenburg, who hastily decided to show send the Basque off.

Number of bad decisions against United: Two
And they say he's the best referee in the world
And they say he's the best referee in the world

United 1-1 Arsenal. Referee: Andre Marriner

The returning Antonio Valencia caused Nacho Monreal grief throughout United's dominant draw with Mourinho's patsy, Arsene Wenger, but referee Marriner inexplicably decided against pointing to the spot in the first-half.

Valencia seemed to be tripped by a desperate Monreal inside the area yet Marriner outspread his arms to signal no penalty.

"I like the words that Marriner told us before the game," Mourinho explained. "It was very simple: 'I don't want to be man of the match, I don't want to be seen.'" He was seen.

Number of bad decisions against United: One
No penalty, apparently
No penalty, apparently
United 1-1 West Ham. Referee: Jon Moss

Jon Moss' decision to book Paul Pogba for simulation would have been forgivable had he not been positioned so perfectly. There was no contact made by Mark Noble but the referee's decision to card Pogba was also undermined by Noble's post-match interview with the Premier League's overseas service, when he acknowledged he would have clattered Pogba had the Frenchman not taken the 'evasive action' Cristiano Ronaldo used to excel at. Strangely, the interview was not published anywhere in the UK and was only spotted by journalists huddled in the mixed zone.

The booking caused Jose Mourinho to pelt an inanimate object, a la Ralph Fiennes in In Bruges. Alas, fourth official Anthony Taylor, Moss and the Football Association seem to lack a sense of humour and concluded Mourinho 'endangered people around him'.

Number of bad decisions against United: One
Pogba's booking triggered a suspension
Pogba's booking triggered a suspension

Crystal Palace 1-2 United. Referee: Craig Pawson

"Robbery," screeched one sports supplement's headline. Mourinho was unhappy about the suggestion United had robbed Palace when United were victims of the dismal Pawson.

Pawson - and his linesmen - had shockers. Zlatan Ibrahimovic's assist for Paul Pogba's offside goal was handball and Marcos Rojo should have been shown a red card, yet Joe Ledley's obvious handball inside his own area was ignored and Juan Mata was onside when he struck with the game level at 1-1.

The type of tackle Lee Chung-yong executed on Eric Bailly in the first period had prompted players' expulsions in the past, yet Match of the Day omitted that from their highlights package.

Number of bad decisions against United (and Palace): Three
Craig Pawson had a shocker at Selhurst
Craig Pawson had a shocker at Selhurst

United 3-1 Sunderland. Referee: Martin Atkinson

With the game goalless, Mata dashed past Lamine Kone to latch onto an elevated pass and was barged to the side inside the 18-yard box. Atkinson, of course, did not give a penalty.

Mata looked destined to trap the ball with just goalkeeper Jordan Pickford to beat, so Kone had denied a goalscoring opportunity and could have been dismissed. The appalling Atkinson reprieved him but United won comfortably.

Number of bad decisions against United: One
Mata forgot Atkinson was on duty
Mata forgot Atkinson was on duty

United 2-1 Middlesbrough. Referee: Lee Mason

Brendan Rodgers risibly questioned Bolton-born Lee Mason's appointment to officiate City's Boxing Day 2013 win over Liverpool and there was no hint of Greater Manchester bias on New Year's Eve 2016.

Whistler Mason's decision to chalk off Ibrahimovic's masterful finish is one of the worst to go against United at Old Trafford in recent memory. No Boro player seemed to find the finish disputable and the sneaky Victor Valdes was arguably the perpetrator - for it was he who bumped into Ibrahimovic.
"Jobsworth."
"Jobsworth."

Mason also ignored a crude second-half challenge on Anthony Martial after he shot straight at the former United 'keeper.

"Obviously Lee will be very disappointed now for sure as now he knows, but for us it's disappointing as well," Mourinho reflected.

"We've had one penalty in 19 matches, and today we had another one on Rashford, we scored a beautiful goal and one before half-time that would have made Zlatan and Messi the top scorers in 2016 in European football."

"Brilliant win v Boro and the referee," one United fan tweeted.

Number of bad decisions against United: Two


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Is there some new FA rule that Man Utd must never be awarded a penalty no matter how blatant the circumstances? Man Utd have been awarded a grand total of 1 penalty in the past 2 seasons. They should have had at least two penalties against Stoke yesterday:

1) Handball by Eric Pieters from Mata's cross.
2) Handball by Shawcross who cradled the ball like it was a newborn baby.

Then there was Shawcross' flying elbow smash on Rashford right on the edge of the box. Clattenburg did not even give a free kick let alone a red or yellow card to Shawcross which it merited. It was more like a WWE move than a legit challenge on a football pitch.
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This week's installment of Man Utd v referees. Jonathan Moss is the latest ref to implement the new "Law X": Thou Shalt Not Ever Award Man Utd a Penalty.

1) The "penalty" he awarded to Hull was as soft as jelly. Yet Smalling got brought down and Moss suddenly forgot that fouls in the box should = penalty.

2) The Jones "yellow" was nothing more than a shoulder to shoulder challenge. 2 minutes later Myler did a wrestling tackle on Rashford (no attempt to play the ball) and there was no yellow!

This is getting criminal.
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wiseone wrote:This week's installment of Man Utd v referees. Jonathan Moss is the latest ref to implement the new "Law X": Thou Shalt Not Ever Award Man Utd a Penalty.

1) The "penalty" he awarded to Hull was as soft as jelly. Yet Smalling got brought down and Dowd suddenly forgot that fouls in the box should = penalty.

2) The Jones "yellow" was nothing more than a shoulder to shoulder challenge. 2 minutes later Myler did a wrestling tackle on Rashford (no attempt to play the ball) and there was no yellow!

This is getting criminal.

Dowd of Moss? Talking about Dowd, was he not the one running (and panting) after an angry Rooney, while calling "Wazza"? That was funny...and Fergie insulted him afterwards by saying he was "out of shape". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Moss was the culprit this time.

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wiseone wrote:This week's installment of Man Utd v referees. Jonathan Moss is the latest ref to implement the new "Law X": Thou Shalt Not Ever Award Man Utd a Penalty.

1) The "penalty" he awarded to Hull was as soft as jelly. Yet Smalling got brought down and Dowd suddenly forgot that fouls in the box should = penalty.

2) The Jones "yellow" was nothing more than a shoulder to shoulder challenge. 2 minutes later Myler did a wrestling tackle on Rashford (no attempt to play the ball) and there was no yellow!

This is getting criminal.

Dowd of Moss? Talking about Dowd, was he not the one running (and panting) after an angry Rooney, while calling "Wazza"? That was funny...and Fergie insulted him afterwards by saying he was "out of shape". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I think the FA is using this season's Man Utd matches to trial its blind refs programme.
The failure to send off Hull's Oumar Niasse (who was already on a yellow!) after two reckless career threatening horror 'tackles' on Carrick and Blind was mystifying. What on earth was he still doing on the pitch after those challenges?! Each deserved a red card in its own right, let alone for a player already on a yellow.

While already on a yellow, he should have been sent off for a shocking studs up horror "challenge" where he stamped on Carrick's knee. That was in the first half! Then to compound matters, he escaped a red card again after another terrifying studs up knee high assault on Blind in the 2nd half. The Hull manager subbed him off after that one to save him from himself before he did something serious enough to land in prison. He should have been sent off 3 times in one match!
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The Boro game yesterday also demonstrated something I often say: ref decisions against Man Utd are often ignored because in many games where the ref gives a bad decision against Man Utd, they go on to win the game anyway.

With the score at 0-0, Boro's Adam Clayton did a flying body tackle on Johnny Kills in the penalty area and it should have been penalty to Man Utd. In the same move Boro's Bernardo brought down Rashford. Boro should have been penalised twice in one move. :shock: The ref refused to give either decision and even the normally placid Michael Carrick went ballistic at the ref.

No one will ever talk about the injustice of those decisions because Man Utd won the game.
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Is Marcos Rojo still playing for Manchester United?
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I am sure the stonewall penalty that was denied for the foul on Ander Herrera today (against Huddersfield) will not be mentioned by the ABUs.
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Absolutely shocking leg-breaker horror "tackles" by Kane and Alli against Sterling and KDB respectively last week. How they stayed on the pitch is beyond me after those GBH assaults disguised as football tackles. Pogba must be wondering how he got sent off (at least he made contact with the ball) and those two got away with that sort of brutality.
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wiseone wrote:Absolutely shocking leg-breaker horror "tackles" by Kane and Alli against Sterling and KDB respectively last week. How they stayed on the pitch is beyond me after those GBH assaults disguised as football tackles. Pogba must be wondering how he got sent off (at least he made contact with the ball) and those two got away with that sort of brutality.
You only saw those ones. You didnt see the kick in the face Kane got from Otamendi.
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Thank goodness young Scott McTominay is OK after that X-rated assault and battery on him by Huddersfield's Terence Kongolo yesterday. It was a shocking "challenge" that caught McTominay square on the jaw, and caused a head injury as McTominay's head hit the floor as he fell down. It should have been a red card and a stonewall penalty. Ref did nothing. Awful refereeing.

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wiseone wrote:Thank goodness young Scott McTominay is OK after that X-rated assault and battery on him by Huddersfield's Terence Kongolo yesterday. It was a shocking "challenge" that caught McTominay square on the jaw, and caused a head injury as McTominay's head hit the floor as he fell down. It should have been a red card and a stonewall penalty. Ref did nothing. Awful refereeing.

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Our friend Jonathan Moss had an utter nightmare today. One can argue that Rashford naively allowed Bardsley (ex Man Utd player) to bait him into a red card, but:

1) Why was Bardsley not also sent off? The officials clarified that Bardsley was yellow carded for the head-head stand off with Rashford (and not the wild off the ball kick out at Rashford that precipitated the entire confrontation). If so, then Bardsley should have also been sent off because he essentially committed two yellow card offences in one incident: the kick at Rashford, and butting heads with Rashford.

2) How on earth did Ben Mee stay on the pitch for 90 minutes?! In the 85th minute, Lukaku was clean through on goal (1 on 1 against the GK) and Mee just dived on to the ball and hooked it with his hand. How on earth was he not sent off for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity?! :shock:

Even Burnley fans later admitted he was "lucky not to be sent off with the handball".


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