Why did Man United spend 18m on De Gea ?

[Bigpokey24]

I disagree with Yorkie since this is all about feelings. There are areas where De Gea is better than Onana and there are areas where Onana is better than De Gea. The manager has seen both of them extensively at close quarters. We love Dave and he will remain a club legend but we won't pretend not to see his numerous "miraculous" costly blunders too, so he is human and we can live with that. Onana is our No.1 now and there is nothing anyone can do about that.

I agree with Yorkie. Onana is not as good a shot stopper as De Gea. I am not even sure that Onana is a better pure GK than Henderson either. He is better with his feet than both of them, but I have a bad feeling that Man Utd will miss Miracle Dave’s ability to pull off indescribable saves.

this is just pure hate.... By the Time Onana deals with all his critics, dem go hear am, the bobo will also abuse dem during press interviews

[bamenda boy]

YemiBrazil - if Man Utd was a dominant ball hogging team like Man City that gets 60-70% possession in most of its games and rarely gives the opposition chances, Onana would be ideal. When you always have the ball you can afford to have a GK who is good with his feet but average at making saves.

Unfortunately, Man Utd is not a dominant ball hogging team. It is a team that gives the opposition loads of chances and that last season conceded 17 goals in only 3 games. A team like that needs a GK who is brilliant at keeping the ball out of the net. In that regard, DDG is elite. He is not the best all round GK in the world, but he is the best shot stopper in the world.

I actually think the overlooked Henderson is a happy medium between DDG and Onana. He is not as good a shot stopper as DDG but is better with his feet and more commanding in the box. He is not as good a ball player as Onana, but is a better shot stopper than him. Henderson is also good at something that DDG is terrible at: saving penalties.

I disagree with Yorkie since this is all about feelings. There are areas where De Gea is better than Onana and there are areas where Onana is better than De Gea. The manager has seen both of them extensively at close quarters. We love Dave and he will remain a club legend but we won't pretend not to see his numerous "miraculous" costly blunders too, so he is human and we can live with that. Onana is our No.1 now and there is nothing anyone can do about that.

Did you just say Onana is average at making saves?

[YemiBrazil]

Wiseone, I made a very important statement above - ETH has seen all these goalkeepers at close quarters and that must have informed his decision.

An emphatic statement that "Man Utd is not a dominant ball hogging team" does not accommodate the fact that the current version of the team is still work in progress at a very early stage. Keep in mind that the likes of Nathan Ake, Stone, Walker, Akanji etc feature prominently for a ball hogging team like Man City, so I don't see any impossibility here with Man United's players.

Maybe getting a GK like Onana is critical in moving to the next stage, we all saw in Houston on Wednesday how Real Madrid players were reluctant to charge at Onana on 50/50 balls. The ones that made the attempt quickly regretted it, a glaring futility. Also, his quick pinpoint passes under pressure is an absolute game changer for Man United. Above all, let's just say time will tell.

YemiBrazil - if Man Utd was a dominant ball hogging team like Man City that gets 60-70% possession in most of its games and rarely gives the opposition chances, Onana would be ideal. When you always have the ball you can afford to have a GK who is good with his feet but average at making saves.

Unfortunately, Man Utd is not a dominant ball hogging team. It is a team that gives the opposition loads of chances and that last season conceded 17 goals in only 3 games. A team like that needs a GK who is brilliant at keeping the ball out of the net. In that regard, DDG is elite. He is not the best all round GK in the world, but he is the best shot stopper in the world.

I actually think the overlooked Henderson is a happy medium between DDG and Onana. He is not as good a shot stopper as DDG but is better with his feet and more commanding in the box. He is not as good a ball player as Onana, but is a better shot stopper than him. Henderson is also good at something that DDG is terrible at: saving penalties.

I disagree with Yorkie since this is all about feelings. There are areas where De Gea is better than Onana and there are areas where Onana is better than De Gea. The manager has seen both of them extensively at close quarters. We love Dave and he will remain a club legend but we won't pretend not to see his numerous "miraculous" costly blunders too, so he is human and we can live with that. Onana is our No.1 now and there is nothing anyone can do about that.

[wiseone]

Murtough and Fletcher should rein in some of ETH’s transfer impulses. His transfer strategy seems to consist of buying players who played for him before or who played in the Dutch league. Man Utd may as well buy Ajax at this rate.

[wiseone]

Only Manchester United would pay 45 million to downgrade their GK.



Onana is a better footballer than DDG, but DDG is a much better GK (even the raw 20 yo version of DDG that arrived at MUFC 12 years ago is better than Onana).

[wiseone]

[wiseone]

All the best to Miracle Dave at his new club Fiorentina. He kept Manchester United’s head above water for the part decade with his miraculous saves.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... fiorentina

[YemiBrazil]

I like Onana as a person but truth be told, I prefer David de Gea. He made frustrating mistakes too but that's expected when you spend seasons after seasons behind those clumsy clowns Maguire and Lindelof. Yet, De Gea made spectacular saves repeatedly.

With Onana, any shot on target is a major threat. He made many good saves too but unlike De Gea, if a shot directed at Onana is typically a goal, expect a goal. No miraculous save.

Onana's ball control and distribution is world class though. Also, he saves some penalties. De Gea is useless with penalties.

[wiseone]

I would rather have a world class shot stopper who makes miraculous saves and the odd mistake, than a GK who is good with his feet, constantly makes mistakes, and rarely produces worldie saves.

I like Onana as a person but truth be told, I prefer David de Gea. He made frustrating mistakes too but that's expected when you spend seasons after seasons behind those clumsy clowns Maguire and Lindelof. Yet, De Gea made spectacular saves repeatedly.

With Onana, any shot on target is a major threat. He made many good saves too but unlike De Gea, if a shot directed at Onana is typically a goal, expect a goal. No miraculous save.

Onana's ball control and distribution is world class though. Also, he saves some penalties. De Gea is useless with penalties.

[YemiBrazil]

I agree with you and admit I got my earlier position on this decision wrong. Maybe the timing of his addition to the team was wrong, and team not yet optimized for a ball playing keeper but a goalkeeper should first and foremost be an excellent goalkeeper. The rest is bonus.

I would rather have a world class shot stopper who makes miraculous saves and the odd mistake, than a GK who is good with his feet, constantly makes mistakes, and rarely produced worldie saves.

I like Onana as a person but truth be told, I prefer David de Gea. He made frustrating mistakes too but that's expected when you spend seasons after seasons behind those clumsy clowns Maguire and Lindelof. Yet, De Gea made spectacular saves repeatedly.

With Onana, any shot on target is a major threat. He made many good saves too but unlike De Gea, if a shot directed at Onana is typically a goal, expect a goal. No miraculous save.

Onana's ball control and distribution is world class though. Also, he saves some penalties. De Gea is useless with penalties.

[wiseone]

[wiseone]

[wiseone]

DDG just saved two penalties in 1 match against AC Milan (including one taken by Tammy Abraham). He has now faced 3 penalties as Fiorentina's GK, and saved all of them.

[wiseone]

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[Lager-back]

guys why is my thread being bumped after so many years
he came we saw and he left

[wiseone]

I will never forgive Solskjaer and Ten Hag for breaking up the best goalkeeping department in Britain (De Gea, Henderson, and Romero), and “replacing” them with a Cameroonian circus act, the guy below who throws punches at thin air, and a once excellent GK who is now pushing 40yo.

[wiseone]

https://x.com/EYMARDLFC/status/1909911174033928537

[wiseone]

https://x.com/EYMARDLFC/status/1909911174033928537

[Bigpokey24]

matic needs to shut the freak up . Onana actually has the best Goalkeeping Stats for united in the last 10 seasons

[kalani JR]

matic needs to shut the freak up . Onana actually has the best Goalkeeping Stats for united in the last 10 seasons

wah, wah, wah.

[wiseone]

https://x.com/Utd_Forever7/status/1910438031221211557