Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

[balo]

Brentford 4 - 3 Man U.

The fightback wasn't enough.

[balo]

Relegation-level performance in the last six games for Man U. 2 points from possible 18. Jeez.

[Bigpokey24]

Relegation-level performance in the last six games for Man U. 2 points from possible 18. Jeez.

it is when they now face Chelsea , they will now turn up, I hope they make the Europa league final, they've suffered enough. However, I am not too sure about Amorin . Shows the gulf in class between the EPL and the Europa league.

United and Spurs are lucky the format no longer includes 3rd placed Champs league teams

[mcal]

Wooben Hamoweem. Didn’t these jokers flog La Liga’s top four the other week?

...different selection. That dem goalie no be am, I guess they will think twice of dumping their first choice Plantanian Onana

[YemiBrazil]

Relegation-level performance in the last six games for Man U. 2 points from possible 18. Jeez.

it is when they now face Chelsea , they will now turn up, I hope they make the Europa league final, they've suffered enough. However, I am not too sure about Amorin . Shows the gulf in class between the EPL and the Europa league.

United and Spurs are lucky the format no longer includes 3rd placed Champs league teams

I don't think 3rd placed champs league teams would have stopped them. They thrive as underdogs. A proper finisher is needed to stick in the knife, they are definitely more dominant this season but awful with finishing. However, it's result that matters and it's indeed a total disgrace.

[Bigpokey24]

Relegation-level performance in the last six games for Man U. 2 points from possible 18. Jeez.

it is when they now face Chelsea , they will now turn up, I hope they make the Europa league final, they've suffered enough. However, I am not too sure about Amorin . Shows the gulf in class between the EPL and the Europa league.

United and Spurs are lucky the format no longer includes 3rd placed Champs league teams

I don't think 3rd placed champs league teams would have stopped them. They thrive as underdogs. A proper finisher is needed to stick in the knife, they are definitely more dominant this season but awful with finishing. However, it's result that matters and it's indeed a total disgrace.

Nico and Iñaki Williams have been ruled out of Athletic Bilbao's squad to face Manchester United tomorrow

[YemiBrazil]

Relegation-level performance in the last six games for Man U. 2 points from possible 18. Jeez.

it is when they now face Chelsea , they will now turn up, I hope they make the Europa league final, they've suffered enough. However, I am not too sure about Amorin . Shows the gulf in class between the EPL and the Europa league.

United and Spurs are lucky the format no longer includes 3rd placed Champs league teams

I don't think 3rd placed champs league teams would have stopped them. They thrive as underdogs. A proper finisher is needed to stick in the knife, they are definitely more dominant this season but awful with finishing. However, it's result that matters and it's indeed a total disgrace.

Nico and Iñaki Williams have been ruled out of Athletic Bilbao's squad to face Manchester United tomorrow

Bad news for United fans. Tie is now even more dicey. These guys are unpredictable as favorites.

[Coach]

Wooben Hamoweem vs Ange Donercoglu for Kings of Europe. Slugfest.

[danfo driver]

Wooben Hamoweem vs Ange Donercoglu for Kings of Europe. Slugfest.

Ekwensu, you are here? Coward! Dont go and sit in one corner and allow those who make it to finals enjoy their success. smh.

One of United or Tottenham will win a trophy, while you will finish 4th. GET THEE BEHIND THEM, EKWENSU!

[danfo driver]

This is a champion! These are the kind of players you can take to war and feel comfort! You can waya them slap and they will fight back and do what needs to be done. Unlike that coward, Rashford.

[wiseone]

[balo]

Are Man U this broke they can't fund Man U staff's trip to the Euro final? Amorim set to pay?

[balo]

[mcal]

...social media ability has made every riff raff an expert to comment and post a few second clip.

[balo]

...social media ability has made every riff raff an expert to comment and post a few second clip.

Are the 39 points in 37 games wrong?
1 point per game.
That in itself permits any Man U fan to dump on them.

[mcal]

...social media ability has made every riff raff an expert to comment and post a few second clip.

Are the 39 points in 37 games wrong?
1 point per game.
That in itself permits any Man U fan to dump on them.

...ok, the guy na dem fan
He can abuse them then

[danfo driver]

How United was 5tvp1d enough to let this guy go is beyond me. There are many white players like Maguire who committed crimes and nothing happened. The fanbase welcomed them back. But they drove this kid out and some even would have preferred to see him beheaded, if they had their way.

If United stood by him, the first couple of months would have been rough, but everyone would have moved on. Instead, like the typical English, they wanted to "look good."

[The YeyeMan]

How United was 5tvp1d enough to let this guy go is beyond me. There are many white players like Maguire who committed crimes and nothing happened. The fanbase welcomed them back. But they drove this kid out and some even would have preferred to see him beheaded, if they had their way.

If United stood by him, the first couple of months would have been rough, but everyone would have moved on. Instead, like the typical English, they wanted to "look good."

You think United should have kept an employee who was credibly accused of sexual and physical assault?

Who's more stupid - United or the (alleged) sexual abuser?

[danfo driver]

You think United should have kept an employee who was credibly accused of sexual and physical assault?

Yes. They kept one who was found GUILTY of aggravated assault, resisting arrest, and attempted bribery. They then gave him the captains armband.

Additionally, in the West, where this occurred, "accusations" aren't punished. If everyone lost their job because they were accused of something, everyone will be without a job. He was NOT found guilty of a crime.

Who's more stupid - United or the (alleged) sexual abuser?

A 19-20 year old child is permitted to be stupid. If we all look back at the stupid things we did as teenagers (and at 20), thank God many of us are not still paying for it today.

United is a multi-billion pounds company run by adults with business experience.

I know which stupidity is worse. The one of a child or the one of a multi-billion pounds company that has spent hundreds of millions to buy players that are not 1/100th at the level of the child?

[The YeyeMan]

You think United should have kept an employee who was credibly accused of sexual and physical assault?

Yes. They kept one who was found GUILTY of aggravated assault, resisting arrest, and attempted bribery. They then gave him the captains armband.

Additionally, in the West, where this occurred, "accusations" aren't punished. If everyone lost their job because they were accused of something, everyone will be without a job. He was NOT found guilty of a crime.

Who's more stupid - United or the (alleged) sexual abuser?

A 19-20 year old child is permitted to be stupid. If we all look back at the stupid things we did as teenagers (and at 20), thank God many of us are not still paying for it today.

United is a multi-billion pounds company run by adults with business experience.

I know which stupidity is worse. The one of a child or the one of a multi-billion pounds company that has spent hundreds of millions to buy players that are not 1/100th at the level of the child?

So because Maguire was found guilty and retained United should have retained the "alleged" sexual abuser? And let's not pretend the accusations against Greenwood were without merit - they were considerably more severe than Maguire's. There was damning photographic, video, and audio evidence against Greenwood which is still in the public domain.

This isn't just about what's proven in court. The court of public opinion, brand reputation, are also considerations. And it's those "adults with business experience" who decided (belatedly) to cut the chord because it wasn't in the interest of their business to retain him.

[danfo driver]

You think United should have kept an employee who was credibly accused of sexual and physical assault?

Yes. They kept one who was found GUILTY of aggravated assault, resisting arrest, and attempted bribery. They then gave him the captains armband.

Additionally, in the West, where this occurred, "accusations" aren't punished. If everyone lost their job because they were accused of something, everyone will be without a job. He was NOT found guilty of a crime.

Who's more stupid - United or the (alleged) sexual abuser?

A 19-20 year old child is permitted to be stupid. If we all look back at the stupid things we did as teenagers (and at 20), thank God many of us are not still paying for it today.

United is a multi-billion pounds company run by adults with business experience.

I know which stupidity is worse. The one of a child or the one of a multi-billion pounds company that has spent hundreds of millions to buy players that are not 1/100th at the level of the child?

So because Maguire was found guilty and retained United should have retained the "alleged" sexual abuser? And let's not pretend the accusations against Greenwood were without merit - they were considerably more severe than Maguire's. There was damning photographic, video, and audio evidence against Greenwood which is still in the public domain.

This isn't just about what's proven in court. The court of public opinion, brand reputation, are also considerations. And it's those "adults with business experience" who decided (belatedly) to cut the chord because it wasn't in the interest of their business to retain him.

You spoke a lot. I will respond to you in two ways - (1) showing a double-standard; and (2) business strategy:

1. double-standard ---

The fact remains that Greenwood was never found guilty. He was 19-20.

Maguire was found guilty of aggravated assault, resisting arrest and attempted bribery - three crimes. He was 27 years old when he committed those 3 crimes. He was welcomed back with open arms and handed the captains armband.

You pretty much made my case for me. It was all about: "The court of public opinion, brand reputation, are also considerations." The black child was never given grace because "he is a thug." The white man, not a child, was given grace by everyone. The English press and fans pretended like nothing happened. They killed the story right there and moved on.

Remember that thread in EaglesNest I spoken to you? Where I said we have to train our children very early in life that they will NEVER receive grace? Even from their own kind? Yes, I am glad you can see it very clearly in the mirror and public.

P.s-- do you remember this story? I tried to speak about it a lot then, but no one seemed willing to have this convo:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... team-hotel

This story at the time, rolled over Foden's back like teflon, while Greenwood was demonized. I remember stating in a thread that if Greenwood had parents with sense, they will tell their child to stay far away from Foden. Foden went on with his life and after Greenwood's video came out, not one pim from his "friend," Foden. Anyway, thats another story for another day. just thought i bring this back up in the context of this convo.

2. Business strategy:

Today, United has lost potentially more than 100 million. Maguire will probably leave United for a fee less than 5M.

[The YeyeMan]

You spoke a lot. I will respond to you in two ways - (1) showing a double-standard; and (2) business strategy:

1. double-standard ---

The fact remains that Greenwood was never found guilty. He was 19-20.

His age is irrelevant. He wasn't tried so wasn't proven not guilty either.

Maguire was found guilty of aggravated assault, resisting arrest and attempted bribery - three crimes. He was 27 years old when he committed those 3 crimes. He was welcomed back with open arms and handed the captains armband.

Again, age is irrelevant and his case wasn't as serious as Greenwood's. What's your angle - United excused one criminal so they should have excused Greenwood?

You pretty much made my case for me. It was all about: "The court of public opinion, brand reputation, are also considerations." The black child was never given grace because "he is a thug." The white man, not a child, was given grace by everyone. The English press and fans pretended like nothing happened. They killed the story right there and moved on.

You think the media would have given grace to a white player if he's been credibly accused as Greenwood was? If so, you don't know the British media as well as you think. It's also a stretch to say the English media pretended nothing happened to Maguire - it was front page news here.

Remember that thread in EaglesNest I spoken to you? Where I said we have to train our children very early in life that they will NEVER receive grace? Even from their own kind? Yes, I am glad you can see it very clearly in the mirror and public.

P.s-- do you remember this story? I tried to speak about it a lot then, but no one seemed willing to have this convo:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... team-hotel

This story at the time, rolled over Foden's back like teflon, while Greenwood was demonized. I remember stating in a thread that if Greenwood had parents with sense, they will tell their child to stay far away from Foden. Foden went on with his life and after Greenwood's video came out, not one pim from his "friend," Foden. Anyway, thats another story for another day. just thought i bring this back up in the context of this convo.

You're mixing different issues here. There's one issue about how the British media have treated players like Sterling or even the young Arsenal defender and how they treat someone like Foden or Grealish - and yes there's a double standard at play. But if Foden or Grealish had been credibly accused of sexual and physical abuse they'd receive the treatment as Greenwood.

2. Business strategy:

Today, United has lost potentially more than 100 million. Maguire will probably leave United for a fee less than 5M.

You're working on the assumption that Greenwood would have eventually been sold at that price point long after United decided to ride the storm. Who knows? But ultimately, you've already made the best point: "United is a multi-billion pounds company run by adults with business experience." Exactly. It was a business decision, not a footballing one.

[danfo driver]

His age is irrelevant.

It is, in the context of the conversation we are having. You said he was stvp1d. I said, i agree he was because children usually do stvp1d things.

He wasn't tried so wasn't proven not guilty either.

Exactly! You seem to be agreeing with me a lot here. He wasnt tried, so United can argue that there is nothing to punish. They chose to punish it and thats fine. I simply find it stvp1d that they did - costing them millions. And I find it double-standard, as they didnt punish the white man who was found guilty. They even rewarded him.

Again, age is irrelevant and his case wasn't as serious as Greenwood's. What's your angle - United excused one criminal so they should have excused Greenwood?

Again, it is relevant in the context of our conversation. Greenwood was stvpid because he is a child. What is Maguire's excuse? An adult?

As for the rest of your sentence, look back to my comment on double-standard based on race.

You think the media would have given grace to a white player if he's been credibly accused as Greenwood was? If so, you don't know the British media as well as you think. It's also a stretch to say the English media pretended nothing happened to Maguire - it was front page news here.

It is you who does not know them After all, they are done ruining Benjamin Mendy's life and they have moved on.

You're working on the assumption that Greenwood would have eventually been sold at that price point long after United decided to ride the storm. Who knows? But ultimately, you've already made the best point: "United is a multi-billion pounds company run by adults with business experience." Exactly. It was a business decision, not a footballing one.

You will see how much Greenwood is sold when he leaves Marseille. I can guarantee you it will be 100x more than United will get for Maguire, the FACTUALLY convicted criminal.