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I am usually one to call out bad refereeing decisions in favour of Barca and Real Madrid. For once VAR went against Madrid. They lost 1-2 at home to Levante yesterday after the VAR overturned a FK which had been awarded against Madrid for a Vinicius Jr foul just outside the box, and upgraded to a PK. It looked dodgy as the foul looked to have occurred a few inches outside the box.
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Each time I get annoyed at bad refereeing decisions in the EPL, La Liga refs appear to make the EPL refs look like the second coming of Collina.

Sitrep: Real Valladolid v Real Madrid yesterday - the score is 0-0 with 10 minutes left and since Valladolid's players did not read the script and refused to play the role assigned to them by letting Madrid score, I started to worry for them and that the officials would manufacture a way to screw them. Lo and behold:

1) In the first half Madrid's Naija/Austrian player David Alaba hacked down a Valladolid attacker in the area for the most stonewall penalty you will ever see. The Spanish commentators immediately screamed "penal" in unison, yet the ref did not award the penalty, and the VAR did not advise him to look at the monitor either.

2) In a strange interpretation of the offside law which will interest FIFA, a Valladolid attacker (admittedly standing in a slightly offside position) ran clean through on goal - except that a Madrid player had played the ball to him. Even primary school kids know that an attacking player cannot be flagged offside (even if in an offside position) if an opposition player played the ball to him. Yet despite this basic Law of the Game, the linesman flagged for offside and the ref whistled for a Madrid free kick and did not overrule his lino for some odd reason.

To compound matters, with only 10 minutes left, Madrid got a corner which Rudiger headed onto the arm of Valladolid's CD Javi Sanchez - who because Rudiger pushed him, had his back turned and was not even looking at Rudiger or the ball. The Spanish commentator said "para mi, no penal". It was a carbon copy of the "handball" penalty awarded against Spurs' Eric Dier while playing against Newcastle in 2020 (that decision was so outrageous that it caused the FA to change the handball parameters and issue a clarification).

In La Liga niceties such as rules mean little to the refs, and the ref gave Madrid a penalty, and compounded the scandal by penalising Sanchez with a yellow card, and giving a straight red card against Sergio Leon (who was standing next to the touchline about 40 yards away from play). I can only assume that the red card was for dissent. How on earth can you book a player for a "handball" that occurred after he had been fouled, and while he had his back turned to the ball and was facing the crowd?

Benzema of course scored the penalty, and Madrid won 2-0 with 2 goals in the last 10 minutes against 10 man Valladolid - in line with the pre-game script.

The lengths that La Liga refs are willing to go, to commit ojoro, is mind boggling.
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wiseone wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:14 am The really weird thing is that VAR has not stopped the scandalous decisions. Last week Celta were denied a blatant penalty for a handball by a Barca defender. This was the case even though the VAR had the opportunity to replay and watch the handball on video replay. Yet still no penalty.
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You guys should start an EPL version of this thread too. :)
The EPL official’s antics have been off the charts.
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Did anyone watch the Villarreal v Real Madrid game? The ref awarded two utter joke penalties. Can someone please explain why the penalty against David Alaba was legit when IFAB’s guidance says that handball should not be awarded against a player if the ball ⚽️ hits a player’s arm as he falls to the ground and uses his arm to support his falling body? Alaba slipped and fell and as he was on the ground, Foyth kicked the ball against his hand.





That is why the refs did not award a penalty for this blatant handball by Arsenal’s Cedric against Man Utd last season:

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The bigger joke of a penalty was in favor of Madrid vs Valladolid. And subsequent red card for protesting
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I posted about that above.
txj wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 pm The bigger joke of a penalty was in favor of Madrid vs Valladolid. And subsequent red card for protesting
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La Liga "refereeing" is an utter abomination. Juventus got relegated for match fixing and bribing refs. I am amazed similar scandals and punishments have not emerged in La Liga.

This past weekend I watched Chukwueze playing for Villarreal v Girona.

The ref Carlos del Cerro Grande:

1) Awarded Villarreal a "penalty" in the 78th minute; even though Girona's Santiago Bueno fouled Villarreal's Álex Baena OUTSIDE the box. :shock: The ref also sent off Bueno. Mercifully VAR told the ref that the foul was outside the box and forced him to award a FK instead of a PK. Yet he still sent off Bueno.

2) In the 91st minute, the ref awarded Villarreal yet another phantom "penalty" after Girona's Oriol Romeu (ex Chelsea - remember him?) cleared the ball and Pau Torres fell down beside him as if someone amputated him. For some odd reason VAR did not ask the ref to check the monitor even though replays showed that Romeu played the ball. It was a laughable decision. Gerard Moreno took the penalty but Girona's GK Paolo Gazzaniga (ex Spurs - remember him?) saved the penalty kick.

3) Even though the officials indicated 6 minutes of added time, somehow the game is still going on after 100 minutes (I kid you not!). The ref then awards Villarreal a third mystery "penalty" (2 of which he awarded after the 90th minute!). :shock: Daniel Parejo converted the penalty and the ref immediately blew the full-time whistle to give Villarreal a 1-0 win over 10 man Girona.

I cannot understand how officials can get away with this sort of corrupt behaviour on live TV. At times it seems that a criminal match fixing syndicate is in charge of La Liga "refereeing".







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I was right all these years! 😅

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La Liga - again.
Barcelona (the team being investigated for unexplained monetary payments to the head of the referees' association) - again.

Athletic Club (Bilbao) were losing 0-1 at home to Barcelona. Inaki Williams equalised after out running the Barcelona defence (a run he started from inside his own half). Williams could not have been offside because he started his run from his own half, hence VAR had to manufacture another pretext to disallow the goal.

Incredibly, VAR found that Athletic's Iker Munain handballed about 3-4 passes before Williams scored. Keep in mind that the alleged handball occurred about 85 yards away from where Williams scored from, and even after said handball ✋️, Athletic had to play the ball deep from inside their own half all the way into the Barcelona goal.

Yet somehow the officials disallowed 🚫 the goal even though said handball had no bearing/impact on the goal, occurred ages before the goal was scored, AND goals should be disallowed for handball only if the player who scored the goal committed the handball or the handball directly led to the goal. Munain did not score or even provide the assist!

The best quote from ESPN's match report is:

"Athletic fans chucked fake bank notes on to the pitch with Barca's badge and the word "mafia" written on them"Them.

How apt.

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Tchouameni’s reckless studs up ankle breaker tackle on Chukwueze at the weekend was horrendous. I do not blame Tchouameni. Instead I blame the referee and VAR for not intervening. That should have been a red card for a reckless tackle that could have broken Chukwueze’s ankle. It ticked all of the boxes for a red card review:

*studs up ✔️
*endangering the safety of an opponent ✔️
*high boot ✔️
*boot went above the ball to kick Chukwueze ✔️



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Note as well how the officials kept making awful decisions in their desperate attempts to ensure a Madrid win:

*Flagged Chukwueze offside in the build up to Villarreal’s second goal and disallowed the goal (until the video footage forced them to overturn their decision);

*Awarded Madrid a penalty for “handball” after Aissa Mandi slide tackled in his area and the ball rolled past him as he was on the ground (until the video footage forced them to overturn their decision); and

*7 minutes of injury time when Madrid was losing after 90 minutes (in a match where there was not a single serious injury in the 2nd half).
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wiseone wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:13 am Note as well how the officials kept making awful decisions in their desperate attempts to ensure a Madrid win:

*Flagged Chukwueze offside in the build up to Villarreal’s second goal and disallowed the goal (until the video footage forced them to overturn their decision)
*Awarded Madrid a penalty for “handball” after Aissa Mandi slide tackled in his area and the ball rolled past him as he was on the ground (until the video footage forced them to overturn their decision)
*7 minutes of injury time when Madrid was losing after 90 minutes (in a match where there was not a single serious injury in the 2nd half)
Meanwhile in our King’s EPL, a linesman elbowed a player on the chin. :shock: :shock:
Then the ref gave the same player, Robertson, a yellow for complaining about the incident.
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Others are noticing too...

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Have Barca started and finished vs 11 men this season? The importance of a league triumph to Barca’s financial viability can’t be overstated. Nevertheless, congrats to Xavi, has made good of the advantage and reduced the title race to an easy peasy.

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La Liga referees- the gifts that keep on giving. Each time one thinks we have seen the worst of them, they prove us wrong.

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The La Liga refereeing comedy 🎭 show was on the road again yesterday. Sevilla’s Adria Pedrosa scored an equalising goal against Mallorca to make the score 1-1 but the ref disallowed the goal because the ball allegedly hit Sevilla strike el-Nesyri on the back before going in.

From the replays, it looked like the ball hit el-Nesyri’s back. How on earth did the referee AND VAR mess that up?





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Looks like Premier League referee Robert Jones is trying to compete with the La Liga refs. Yesterday Jones sent off Notts Forest’s 🌳 Willy Boly for a second yellow card after Boly made TWO brilliant clean tackles, won the ball ⚽️ both times, and Bournemouth’s Adam smith stood on Boly’s foot.

It is bizarre that Boly got a red carded for having the temerity to be fouled by an opposition player. Shocking decision.





It was a game changing decision because the score was 0-0 when Boly was sent off and Forest had to play with 10 men for over 60 minutes. Bournemouth won 3-2 (all 5 goals were scored after Boly was sent off) with Dominic Solanke scoring a hat-trick (including a 94th minute winner). Would Solanke have scored 3 goals if Boly was still on the pitch and Forest had 11 players?
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I cannot believe this "penalty" was allowed to stand.

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One must feel for Almeria. Bottom of La Liga and have not won a game all season. Almeria took the lead away at Real Madrid after only 39 seconds, and went 2-0 up before half-time. Then La Liga refereeing intervened.

After Madrid pulled a goal back Almeria went 3-1 up but VAR recommended a review for an incident in the build m-up to the goal. Of course the ref saw that Almeria’s Ramazani had touched Bellingham’s face with his arm on the halfway line, about 60 yards away from where the goal was scored, during the build up to Almeria's goal. He found the excuse he needed to disallow Almeria’s goal. Then after the referee disallowed Vinicius’ equaliser for handball, the VAR recommended another review, and the ref changed his mind and awarded the goal.

Almeria’s misery was compounded when Dani Carvajaj scored a 99th minute winner to give Madrid a 3-2 win.





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