2020/2021 Spurs Season: PL - 7th; EL - R16; FAC - R5; CC- RU
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] NEW v TOT [WK 30]
When different players who had previously played well under a different manager keep making individual errors under another manager, a sensible person will point the finger at the new manager.Cristao II wrote:Dear Lord, someone is a happy bunny today. When players make individual errors in a non pressure situation to cost the team, hell yeah it is their fault. I didn't watch today's game but even before the match I already knew that Spurs had a high probability of not winning. Why? Spurs players. This set lacks the mental strength. They talk and can't back it up. From Pochettino and now Mourinho. I repeat if Spurs can't win one single trophy with Jose, then who can they win it with? Pep? Klopp? Rodgers? LOL!! Give Jose better eggs then I can judge the quality and technique in making an omelette.toyin133 wrote:But you are happy to blame the players when the team loses and praise Mourinho when the team wins?Cristao II wrote:Don't get the need to claim sides or being divisive.toyin133 wrote:The one thing I will say about you is that you are loyal.Cristao II wrote:Chance at top 4 and certain players don't turn up. Really looking forward to the summer window. Unfortunately there is only so much changes one can make.
You are a Mourinho man through and through and nothing can ever be his fault.
This is not FIFA 2021, the fact that Mourinho achieved success 5 years ago using a particular system does not mean that the style is still relevant today. Heck it does not even mean that Mourinho still retains the same attributes that made him such a good manager back then. For a start, he had a backroom staff that comprised of people like AVB, Rui Faria, Karanka et al who have obviously moved on and the succes he achieved then was theirs as much as his. Interestingly, there is actually an article by Jonathan Wilson in the guardian today which talks about how "fear has become the Mourinho's defining principle"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... tle-charge
Read it and you might learn something. If Mourinho has remained such a serial winner, Real, Chelsea and Man utd would not have fired him.
Lastly and we have talked about this before, Mourinho has a nasty habit of alienating the dressing room. He did it at Madrid, was sacked for it at Chelsea (palpable discord statement by Emanolo) and most of the players he alienated at Man Utd are suddenly playing well under a new manager. Practically every Spurs supporter I know believed that the Mourinho appointment would end in tears but the hope was that he might win one or two trophies for Spurs before the inevitable meltdown bit he seems to have skipped the winning trophies part to simply having the meltdown
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] NEW v TOT [WK 30]
Mate, Poch got Spurs to the League Cup final, do you think Daniel Levy built a £1 billion stadium to parade the League Cup ?Cristao II wrote:Spurs got to the League Cup final by doing nothing right? It must hurt Jose naysayers that he qualified for that final. Jose still has another season at Spurs by God's grace. Buckle up.toyin133 wrote:What does that have to do with the fact that he was able to do it for some time? Mourinho has never done it.benteke wrote:Don't forget when he got fired the players where doing the exact same stuff and Spurs was almost in relegation zone.toyin133 wrote:The same way Pochettino did itbenteke wrote:In what way can Jose coach those players to stop wasting chances and put the game to bed before giving the other team hopetoyin133 wrote:The one thing I will say about you is that you are loyal.Cristao II wrote:Chance at top 4 and certain players don't turn up. Really looking forward to the summer window. Unfortunately there is only so much changes one can make.
You are a Mourinho man through and through and nothing can ever be his fault.
PS it is Nigeria - All Blacks - Spurs in that order. I am a Spurs fan before a Jose fan.
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Toyin133, I rarely disagree with you but on this one you can't fault Jose much. Individual errors is what is contributing to the poor run of form not the tactics. Player attitude is what makes the team drop points from winning position not the manager's instructions. Unless these players change their mentality for one of a warrior Spurs will continue falter no matter who is appointed next after Mourinho is sacked. These were the exact problems Poch had and got him fired, the only difference is that Poch was more like a father figure to all the players while Jose acts the boss and doesn't care much about their feelings.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
IAG, we have to agree to disagree. My contention is that the team is playing below it's capabilities because Mourinho has created a dysfunctional organisation. The team is riddled with doubt, suspicion and a lack of confidence because of Mourinho's management style which has caused problems in his most recent clubs.Its a Goal wrote:Toyin133, I rarely disagree with you but on this one you can't fault Jose much. Individual errors is what is contributing to the poor run of form not the tactics. Player attitude is what makes the team drop points from winning position not the manager's instructions. Unless these players change their mentality for one of a warrior Spurs will continue falter no matter who is appointed next after Mourinho is sacked. These were the exact problems Poch had and got him fired, the only difference is that Poch was more like a father figure to all the players while Jose acts the boss and doesn't care much about their feelings.
I do not absolve the players completely but you only have to look at Man utd to see how players like Luke Shaw, Lindelof, Bailly, Pogba, Rashford and others improved after his departure. The players you are currently criticising will improve with Mourinho's departure and a new coach can decide on which ones to release from the club. The sooner that process starts the better for Spurs.
There is also a narrative that these same players failed Poch which in my view is completely false. The team faltered because Levy refused to invest in the team for almost 18 months and Levy did not give the players he bought in the summer a chance to be integrated into the team.
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Sanchez dropped from the team completely while Dier comes in to partner Rodon. Interestingly Aurier is back to man the RB while Toby is on the bench.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
It looks like another 4-2-1-2-1 lineup. I don't recall that back 4 ever playing as a unit before so it will be interesting to see how they hold up especially with Dier on the left side of the central as he struggles a lot there. I believe the lineup will be:
Kane
Son * Moura
Lo Celso
Hójbjerg * Ndombele
Reguilon * Dier * Rodon * Aurier
Lloris
Wishing the team all the best.
Kane
Son * Moura
Lo Celso
Hójbjerg * Ndombele
Reguilon * Dier * Rodon * Aurier
Lloris
Wishing the team all the best.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
REST IN PEACE COACH STEPHEN KESHI!!! REST IN PEACE COACH AMODU SHAIBU!!!
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Which Aurier will show up today?
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Did anyone have a good link please
Hesgoal keeps lagging
Hesgoal keeps lagging
Ratlala :thumbs: :D
https://youtu.be/8CZLsYase0Q
https://youtu.be/8CZLsYase0Q
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Moura should have hit that first time
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
No red for Pogba for the elbow into Aurier's face
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Interesting that Dier is playing at right CB instead of the left as he has customarily done under Mourinho
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
McTominay booked for crude challenge on Ndombele
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
I feel dizzy watching Rodon on the left side and Dier on the right. I have never seen either play in that side of defense so starting out in the combo is a bit concerning.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
REST IN PEACE COACH STEPHEN KESHI!!! REST IN PEACE COACH AMODU SHAIBU!!!
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Dier is actually a right sided CB who has been playing on the left because Spurs don't have anyone else to play thereIts a Goal wrote:I feel dizzy watching Rodon on the left side and Dier on the right. I have never seen either play in that side of defense so starting out in the combo is a bit concerning.
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Cavani scores
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Spurs protesting a foul on Son
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Ref checking monitor
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Son fouled and lead to a goal. Should be overruled.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
REST IN PEACE COACH STEPHEN KESHI!!! REST IN PEACE COACH AMODU SHAIBU!!!
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
No goal for foul on son by McTominay
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Goal overturrned and lucky he didn't get a 2nd yellow.
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
REST IN PEACE COACH STEPHEN KESHI!!! REST IN PEACE COACH AMODU SHAIBU!!!
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Nice one Sonny
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Let's have another onetoyin133 wrote:Nice one Sonny
"I hear Glenn Hoddle has found God. That must have been one hell of a pass." Jasper Carrott
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
"Mind you, football is not really about winning, or goals, or saves or supporters. It's about glory. It's about doing things in style, doing them with a flourish. It's
about going out to beat the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Re: 2020/2021 Spurs Season: [PL] TOT v MAN [WK 31]
Kane, Moura, Son goal
2 of the finest indigenous coaches Nigeria ever had lost in a space of 4 days. Dear Lord, is this a sign that you are taking away from us what we failed to appreciate? I pray for forgiveness of our sins. I pray for the humility to recognize our wrongs and the humbleness and wisdom to right our ways.
REST IN PEACE COACH STEPHEN KESHI!!! REST IN PEACE COACH AMODU SHAIBU!!!
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