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Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 pm
by Kako
Aston Villa no gree Man City .

Re: Man City vs Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:32 pm
by Kako
Still 0-0

Re: Man City-1 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:33 pm
by Kako
1-0 -Man City.

Re: Man City vs Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:44 pm
by Kako
Penarity!!

Re: Man City vs Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:46 pm
by Kako
2-0 Man City

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:49 pm
by txj
How was that first goal allowed?

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:50 pm
by Kako
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
Now I understand your question, after rewatching the goal.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:55 pm
by txj
Kako wrote:
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
?

Just the small matter of Rodri coming from an offsides position to win the ball...

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:47 pm
by Cito
txj wrote:
Kako wrote:
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
?

Just the small matter of Rodri coming from an offsides position to win the ball...
I don't think you understand the offside rule. :mrgreen:

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:12 pm
by txj
Cito wrote:
txj wrote:
Kako wrote:
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
?

Just the small matter of Rodri coming from an offsides position to win the ball...
I don't think you understand the offside rule. :mrgreen:

If the interpretation is correct, managers all over the world would simply station their center forward in an offside position.

The moment Rodri moved towards the ball, he was taking an unfair advantage and should've been called offsides.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:12 pm
by kajifu
Poor ref mess the game

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:34 am
by Cito
txj wrote:
Cito wrote:
txj wrote:
Kako wrote:
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
?

Just the small matter of Rodri coming from an offsides position to win the ball...
I don't think you understand the offside rule. :mrgreen:

If the interpretation is correct, managers all over the world would simply station their center forward in an offside position.

The moment Rodri moved towards the ball, he was taking an unfair advantage and should've been called offsides.
'A player in an offisde position, receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, is NOT to be considered to have gained an advantage.'

Those are the key words. It's simple. He was kept on by the defender.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:52 am
by Sleaky72
What a goalie Emiliano Martinez is.
Without him that score line would have read at
least four or five.
The Saves from point blank range that he made plus
his command of his box was exceptional.
Can’t believe Arsenal let him get away and for that cheap
Uv a price. What a foolish club.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:19 am
by kajifu
Sleaky72 wrote:What a goalie Emiliano Martinez is.
Without him that score line would have read at
least four or five.
The Saves from point blank range that he made plus
his command of his box was exceptional.
Can’t believe Arsenal let him get away and for that cheap
Uv a price. What a foolish club.
He is the reason they are doing great and signing of the season so far.
He gave us two trophies something our number one is yet to give us...

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:51 pm
by txj
Cito wrote:
txj wrote:
Cito wrote:
txj wrote:
Kako wrote:
txj wrote:How was that first goal allowed?
Anything wrong with the goal?
?

Just the small matter of Rodri coming from an offsides position to win the ball...
I don't think you understand the offside rule. :mrgreen:

If the interpretation is correct, managers all over the world would simply station their center forward in an offside position.

The moment Rodri moved towards the ball, he was taking an unfair advantage and should've been called offsides.
'A player in an offisde position, receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, is NOT to be considered to have gained an advantage.'

Those are the key words. It's simple. He was kept on by the defender.

On the same day, in the Super Cup final between Juve and Napoli, a similar situation was called offsides.

Once Rodri made a move towards Mings, he was taking an unfair advantage. That's when the call should've been made...

To then make the call after Mings touches the ball, makes a complete mockery of the rule...

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:17 pm
by Coach
The argument is that Mings' deliberate play of the ball ended Rodri's phase offside. What would've been really interesting is, had Mings played the ball back to the keeper, the pass been intercepted by Rodri and the ball dispatched.

And yes, its a loophole that not enough people exploit. With teams playing out from the back and keepers playing further off their line, creating additional passing triangles, its a ploy which could reap huge reward.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm
by txj
Coach wrote:The argument is that Mings' deliberate play of the ball ended Rodri's phase offside. What would've been really interesting is, had Mings played the ball back to the keeper, the pass been intercepted by Rodri and the ball dispatched.

And yes, its a loophole that not enough people exploit. With teams playing out from the back and keepers playing further off their line, creating additional passing triangles, its a ploy which could reap huge reward.
The point as shown in the Juve game is that Rodri's move towards Mings, triggered an unfair advantage and therefoe offsides, ever before Mings touched the ball.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:55 pm
by Coach
But Rodri was onside when retrieving the ball which was in his opponent’s possession.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:10 pm
by The YeyeMan
Clear offside.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:22 pm
by Coach
The YeyeMan wrote:Clear offside.
And yet neither VAR nor the "top brass" Ref who reviews decisions in the post-match preamble, has called it such.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:51 pm
by txj
Coach wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:Clear offside.
And yet neither VAR nor the "top brass" Ref who reviews decisions in the post-match preamble, has called it such.
They are reviewing the decision from after Mings touched the ball.

The offsides was triggered once Rodri moved towards Mings and ahead of the latter's touch.

I saw this called in the Juve game last night. The English are just dumb and stupid!

It was never a VAR decision and was therefore not adjudicated by VAR.

If this was a valid play, half the managers would station their forwards offsides permanently...

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:09 pm
by Coach
Can’t remember who it was, but can vaguely recall a striker returning from an offside position, running onto a miscued header from a defender and tucking it away one vs one.

Re: Man City-2 vs 0-Aston Villa

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:18 pm
by txj