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Coach wrote:The world is watching, both corners have to hold their nerve, hopefully neither backs down. The bomb must be allowed to achieve its fullest glory. Meeting on Friday, all kicked out, lets see how the players respond...cant wait. Moyes and Rodgers going head to head for the league title.
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Coach wrote:@G4, they will not be permitted to participate in their domestic leagues. The chest beating should be enough to get them expelled. Hopefully. Cant wait to see the blow back, full blown mutiny surely. Players up in arms. Danny and Ashley Barnes up top in the Euros. Hilarious. Kick 'em all out.
I've heard as well. There's a long time between now and August for all parties to discuss. Time will tell.
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Hopefully not...would love to see it happen, all expelled. Imagine the free for all. 6 promoted from the Championship, big Valerian Ismael's Barnsley back in the big time. 3-4-3, raking long balls, pie and mash at half-time, what's in the Lucozade bottle Cory? double vodka and orange.
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The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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Ok.

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ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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EPL/ domestic leagues hold cards much moreso than UEFA but the practicality of their proposed remedy remains to be seen. UEFA is at the mercy of the domestic leagues as I see it.
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Basketball, never been a fan...couldn't care less about it. They've flicked their skirts in tune with the whistles from the Wolves of Wall Street. Whether it could be the next WWE featuring special guest referees or grudge matches, irrelevant, what matters most now is both camps stand firm. Friday could be delightful, imagine City, Chelsea et al expelled, Poch wins it. Kane, Sterling, Foden banned from performing at the Euros, Sean Longstaff playing false nine.
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Coach wrote:Basketball, never been a fan...couldn't care less about it. They've flicked their skirts in tune with the whistles from the Wolves of Wall Street. Whether it could be the next WWE featuring special guest referees or grudge matches, irrelevant, what matters most now is both camps stand firm. Friday could be delightful, imagine City, Chelsea et al expelled, Poch wins it. Kane, Sterling, Foden banned from performing at the Euros, Sean Longstaff playing false nine.
Drop the dutchie bro... :blush: :blush:
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Which cards exactly do they hold? Over the last 20-30 years, we've seen Soccer become a predominantly European (ie UEFA) sport. Of course UEFA is going to be angry that someone else is trying to take over control....

The only way this super League does not happen , is if they were bluffing in the first place. The backers of the Super League have resources that UEFA cannot even begin to dream of. Also, understand that this is only step 1 in the process..a World Super League is coming, and soon too.

Both Champions League and the World Cup are going to be a distant memory very soon
ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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Shame no dey catch UEFA ? They are so quick to cry about a powerful club like Chelsea and the others like Real, City etc...however when it comes to racism they turn to mist. I am hoping PSG signs as well
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Coach wrote:@CIC, they must be made to stand by their decision...its not enough to threaten them, get ink on the paper and get the bans going. Can only imagine the mutiny, wonderful scenes as players, some not all, start to walk out by the dozen. No Euros, no World Cup, for what, a few poxy kick abouts. Fingers crossed it all kicks off, big time. Wheres Tevez for a walkout when you need him.
They won't stand because in the end we will ask watch the super League. Will you watch Everton vs Leicester when Madrid is part Juve and inter vs Liverpool is next
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They will back down. Watch this space. I actually think this might give Arsenal fans the motivation and govt help to force Kroenke out.
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nanijoe wrote:Which cards exactly do they hold? Over the last 20-30 years, we've seen Soccer become a predominantly European (ie UEFA) sport. Of course UEFA is going to be angry that someone else is trying to take over control....

The only way this super League does not happen , is if they were bluffing in the first place. The backers of the Super League have resources that UEFA cannot even begin to dream of. Also, understand that this is only step 1 in the process..a World Super League is coming, and soon too.

Both Champions League and the World Cup are going to be a distant memory very soon
ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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Thrown out of the premier league and championship league. New laws to promote competition. No world.cup qualifiers.
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NO NEED FOR SUPER LEAGUE IN EUROPE, BUT...


...the football world outside Europe can use it. That is why I proposed something like this super league for the W. Africa region involving about 20 - 24 new clubs that are detached from things that currently pass for leagues in those countries. W. Africa would serve as a pilot program for the rest of the world and it wouldn't be long before similar super leagues spring up in other parts of the world.

To call football the world's biggest sport is a little bit of a lie because outside of a few countries in W. Europe, it's in shambles in the rest of the world. It is to its shame that FIFA seems to accept this condition but a super league in the rest of the world can change things.
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Perez weighing in, epitome of confidence, “nothing will happen to anybody”. UEFA being asked to drop its trousers and prove who’s Billy Big B*llocks. Can only hope this decimates the landscape completely. Pubs are open, Carling on tap, chilled, p*ssed up Trev and Tel take it to the streets after the obligatory public urination. In the midst of a pandemic, hundreds if not thousands of Liams, inebriated hurling aerosol generating abuse outside stadia. Horse-mounted bobbies riding roughshod through the crowd, truncheons swinging willy-nilly. Bring it on. All of it. The country’s gagging for an excuse to unravel at the seams. Are you not entertained.
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A lot of the initial reaction to the ESL is borne out of hysteria and poor understanding of what it entails. The fans in England are being egged on buy those that have the most to lose by being currently excluded from the arrangement i.e. the broadcasters like Sky and BT Sports. The ESL is targeting at the global football audience and not just Europe. UEFA is pissed because they are about to lose their biggest revenue source, the Champions League.

The fans are over reacting with comments like the death of football and so on. They fail to realise that if the ESL goes ahead, it will still be a win-win scenario for them. The league proceeds as "normal", we get more high quality games in the ESL and probably more high quality games in a revamped Europa league.

All this talk about non-relagation from the ESL being bad is just sentiment. We will get used to it as the new normal. I am actually for it and the threats being made againsts the 12 clubs are just that, threats. The federations need these clubs more than the clubs need them. I expect clubs like Bayern, Dortmund and PSG to join the ESL very soon. I am sure that as we speak the broadcasters are jostling for the rights to the ESL and soon their tone will change from indignation to extolling the benefits of the ESL. When money talks bullshit walks and the ESL is a potential cash cow.
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Coach wrote:@G4, they will not be permitted to participate in their domestic leagues. The chest beating should be enough to get them expelled. Hopefully. Cant wait to see the blow back, full blown mutiny surely. Players up in arms. Danny and Ashley Barnes up top in the Euros. Hilarious. Kick 'em all out.

That is a case they will take to court
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Bell wrote:NO NEED FOR SUPER LEAGUE IN EUROPE, BUT...


...the football world outside Europe can use it. That is why I proposed something like this super league for the W. Africa region involving about 20 - 24 new clubs that are detached from things that currently pass for leagues in those countries. W. Africa would serve as a pilot program for the rest of the world and it wouldn't be long before similar super leagues spring up in other parts of the world.

To call football the world's biggest sport is a little bit of a lie because outside of a few countries in W. Europe, it's in shambles in the rest of the world. It is to its shame that FIFA seems to accept this condition but a super league in the rest of the world can change things.
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Wouldn't this outside world continue losing interest in their domestic league who contribute nothing to World football apart from viewing European games?
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Coach wrote:@CIC, they must be made to stand by their decision...its not enough to threaten them, get ink on the paper and get the bans going. Can only imagine the mutiny, wonderful scenes as players, some not all, start to walk out by the dozen. No Euros, no World Cup, for what, a few poxy kick abouts. Fingers crossed it all kicks off, big time. Wheres Tevez for a walkout when you need him.
They won't stand because in the end we will ask watch the super League. Will you watch Everton vs Leicester when Madrid is part Juve and inter vs Liverpool is next
If on free TV yes. The CL has haemorrhaged viewers ever since it went on subscription on the new BT streaming platform and the numbers have never caught up to the level of viewers when it was on SKY.
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green4life wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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EPL/ domestic leagues hold cards much moreso than UEFA but the practicality of their proposed remedy remains to be seen. UEFA is at the mercy of the domestic leagues as I see it.
Another problem is that the ESL is only 3 Countries at the moment, they need more.
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On the contrary Slyk, who cares for what Neville or Carragher have to say, the idea that a group of clubs are granted indefinite stay in a competition designed to maximise revenue generation, speaks with volume of an even greater monopoly. Why should anyone be afford such privilege? Is this not the creation of a monarchy of sorts in the game. Clubs who’s last success of any note predates the birth of many, assigned “Super status” on the basis of what? If the intention is to create a competitive tournament, how is this achieved without the threat of elimination? Doesn’t matter where you finish fellas, we’ll go again next season and the one after that and the one after that. And on and ariston. Franchise football, perhaps all the games will be played in Qatar, after all, what better way to make use of the sparkling new stadia.

The point for many is, the minnows who have fought tooth and dagger to be there or thereabouts at the end of the season, should have earned the right to pit their wits and more often than not, be flogged by the big boys. Liverpool are making excuses for a dogsh*t return, Mourinhosaurus promised to take Spurs back to Jurassic Park and did just that. Arsenal are labouring at home to Fulham. Yet each and everyone of them will have played 38 league games, if at the conclusion of the league they weren’t good enough to make it into the UCL, then perhaps the rule of 38 holds true. On 38 occasions they had a chance to get past West Ham and Leicester et al and failed, so they don’t deserve to be there next season. Why should the reward for abject failure be shed loads of cash and a guarantee that, no matter how sh*t you are you’re always welcome.

What takes precedence? 3 points in one league or 3 points in the ESL? For which contest will marquee players be rested? Can’t imagine Beloved, founding father and all, can roll out Cedric and Nketiah vs Real Whoever week in, week out. What’s to say Real vs Barca vs City vs Chelsea vs Juve will culminate in better football? Better players on the pitch maybe, but is a better game foregone conclusion? No PSG, no Bayern, super how exactly? Historical weighting perhaps, a history that predates the era of oligarchs and Uncle Sam for most. Meaningless marquee football, who cares. A team could lose every game and still be part of the spectacle the following year, absolute nonsense.
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Ipe Grams wrote:
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ohenhen1 wrote:The clubs have no leverage. UEFA and the EPL hold all of the cards
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EPL/ domestic leagues hold cards much moreso than UEFA but the practicality of their proposed remedy remains to be seen. UEFA is at the mercy of the domestic leagues as I see it.
Another problem is that the ESL is only 3 Countries at the moment, they need more.
Exactly. European and yet made up of Uncle Sam’s falstaffian friends. Why aren’t Dinamo whoever involved? When last did Arsenal or whoever challenge a European cup final, talk less of win one? Dont Zenit have a more recent triumph than Spurs? Where’s Ajax, are they not a powerhouse of some description, if it’s all about historical achievements? If it’s a test of strength, take the top 2 from each league and let them slug it out to see who’s Top Trumps, what the hell are Spurs doing there...they don’t even have Grannie’s teapot in their trophy cabinet. Super? Would be better off inviting Mamelodie Sundowns as a wild card.

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