Cybereagles

Siddonlook11 wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 12:13 am

tolahs wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:09 pm Over the last few matches - we've played with fear. Mentality's a problem

yes you cannot get that with kids.. that comes with a good dose of maturity.

Thats what the tired old legs of Real have thought us. You need a measure of maturity from the coaching team to the players. Arteta does not want that he was yes kids .

Coach wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:15 am @SDL, with regard to your claim that Pepe intentionally sabotaged any chance of a comeback. Was this said with a straight face?

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 5:48 am

Siddonlook11 wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 12:13 am

tolahs wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:09 pm Over the last few matches - we've played with fear. Mentality's a problem

yes you cannot get that with kids.. that comes with a good dose of maturity.

Thats what the tired old legs of Real have thought us. You need a measure of maturity from the coaching team to the players. Arteta does not want that he was yes kids .

You have a point. The kids:

Lacazette
Xhaka
Partey after Partey
El Neny
Cedric
24 year old Gabriel
26 year old Rob Holding
24 year old Ramsdale
26 year old Pepe!

Yes, these kids lack maturity

Coach wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:15 am @SDL, with regard to your claim that Pepe intentionally sabotaged any chance of a comeback. Was this said with a straight face?

Coach wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 4:50 pm @Ohen, Beloved can sleep easy as far as Bukayo and Smith-Rowe are concerned, neither are at the consistent game changer level that the upper echelons are looking for. Should they wish for a move beyond the EPL, maybe, but City, Chelsea, Liverpool will go nowhere near them for the time being.

Coach wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 4:50 pm @Ohen, Beloved can sleep easy as far as Bukayo and Smith-Rowe are concerned, neither are at the consistent game changer level that the upper echelons are looking for. Should they wish for a move beyond the EPL, maybe, but City, Chelsea, Liverpool will go nowhere near them for the time being.

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:15 pm

azuka wrote:

danfo driver wrote:

azuka wrote:

danfo driver wrote:

Sleaky72 wrote:Azuka my big Bro.
Come out and defend her guy Sir

Uncle Azuzu knows what to do

Uncle DD, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. But it's still Arsenal for life. We will definitely overcome.

15 minutes ke? Nnayi, its been 3 months!

15 minutes?, 3 months? 6 months? enjoy it while it last.
Arteta may just be able to put his house in order (HMMMM) and embark on a winning run that will take him into top 4. Yes i believe so and it is not beyond this team.

Chaii!! Nnayi Azuzu. Odiegwu!

Do you remember what happened to the Obi of Naze Umuegweshi, Igwe Eberem Kolintus Aniodeze? He was a very stubborn man. The oracle had announced that for 7 days the people of Naze Umuegweshi must remain indoors due to "happenings by oké osimiri (the river)." This was around 1836 when the Europeans had arrived Naze Umuegweshi, so of course the natives had never seen white people before. That scared them and thats why the oracle had spoken and advised everyone to remain indoors until Umu Ekwensu Ocha (the white devil's people) passes.

While everyone was indoors, heeding the advise of the oracle, Igwe Kolintus snuck out of the palace and went to the river where the Europeans were camping. Why? He wanted to peek at the naked white women who were bathing in the river. He wanted to see oyibo toto. As he snuck behind the shed, he was captured and taken into slavery. He remained in slavery until he died in Jamaica in 1859. Buried in a mass grave like a common slave.

Those who are stubborn and refuse to listen when warned have themselves to blame.

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:43 pm Diokpa Emelike Azuzu! at some point, you have to come out like a man, albeit a defeated one

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:51 pm

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:43 pm Diokpa Emelike Azuzu! at some point, you have to come out like a man, albeit a defeated one

Yeye. I no blame you na Arteta i blame. Enjoy your 5 mnutes of fame.

We will be back next season.

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 7:24 pm

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:51 pm

danfo driver wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:43 pm Diokpa Emelike Azuzu! at some point, you have to come out like a man, albeit a defeated one

Yeye. I no blame you na Arteta i blame. Enjoy your 5 mnutes of fame.

We will be back next season.

tomorrow, tomorrow.. una no dey taya?!

But serious speak, good to see you are in good spirits bro! football can be frustrating, and its best to just see it as what it is -- a game.

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 7:37 pm Yes i am good. We enjoy the good days and endure the bad ones. That's football.
That said, i knew Arteta was embarking on a suicidal mission when he was going into the second half of the season with 17 first team players. This much i said then.
And I have seen enough of Arteta to know he can not form the type of team Arsenal fans want. A winning team.

Waffiman wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 6:09 pm

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 7:37 pm Yes i am good. We enjoy the good days and endure the bad ones. That's football.
That said, i knew Arteta was embarking on a suicidal mission when he was going into the second half of the season with 17 first team players. This much i said then.
And I have seen enough of Arteta to know he can not form the type of team Arsenal fans want. A winning team.

Bro, I have to come and acknowledge a point you made about Arteta. His management of players and resources will come to haunt him.

Yes, I hear we have a young team but for context, the average age of the 07/08 and 08/09 squads were 22.83 and 22.17 respectively, yet, they played one of the most enterprising and enjoyable football in UCL and league. The issue is not the squad, it is poor management. This is the real weakness of Arteta.

Now Saka's Agent is already putting Liverpool in our face. This is the consequence of poor management. Agents see how the Manager treats players and they want their player out.

I don't care how good a manager is, if you don’t have top quality squad depth you will not make it. We lose 2 players, the consequence, we lose 6 out of 13 games. At the heart of the losses are decisions like playing Xhaka at left back twice costing us 6 points.

At a club like Arsenal, Arteta has underachieved again, but with the squad he has in comparison to ManU, Spuds, Chelsea, etc, relatively he overachieved.

I have admit, I am coming to your line of thinking. Arteta is a good coach but I now question if he can make it as a Manager. I know he is young, he now has only one more season to get it right. My bets are not on Arteta.

azuka wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 7:35 pm

Waffiman wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 6:09 pm

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 7:37 pm Yes i am good. We enjoy the good days and endure the bad ones. That's football.
That said, i knew Arteta was embarking on a suicidal mission when he was going into the second half of the season with 17 first team players. This much i said then.
And I have seen enough of Arteta to know he can not form the type of team Arsenal fans want. A winning team.

Bro, I have to come and acknowledge a point you made about Arteta. His management of players and resources will come to haunt him.

Yes, I hear we have a young team but for context, the average age of the 07/08 and 08/09 squads were 22.83 and 22.17 respectively, yet, they played one of the most enterprising and enjoyable football in UCL and league. The issue is not the squad, it is poor management. This is the real weakness of Arteta.

Now Saka's Agent is already putting Liverpool in our face. This is the consequence of poor management. Agents see how the Manager treats players and they want their player out.

I don't care how good a manager is, if you don’t have top quality squad depth you will not make it. We lose 2 players, the consequence, we lose 6 out of 13 games. At the heart of the losses are decisions like playing Xhaka at left back twice costing us 6 points.

At a club like Arsenal, Arteta has underachieved again, but with the squad he has in comparison to ManU, Spuds, Chelsea, etc, relatively he overachieved.

I have admit, I am coming to your line of thinking. Arteta is a good coach but I now question if he can make it as a Manager. I know he is young, he now has only one more season to get it right. My bets are not on Arteta.

My bro i totally agree with everything bar 1 you said here. One thing i do not agree with is that he has overachieved given the squad he has. I ask whose fault is it that he has the current squad which he has been unable to win squat with? WHose fault? Arteta. Or whose fault is it that he let players to leave in January without signing replacements? Arteta. So for me he has underachieved given the backing he has from management.

We did not lose the 4th place race at Spuds stadium. Neither did we lose at the Newcastle stadium. We lost it when he let players like Chambers to leave in January without bringing a replacement. Note he approached the 2nd half of the season with 17 first team players. All this boil down to one thing and one thing only.

Having never formed a squad for any team before, he's clueless on how to go about forming a winning squad. Clueless on how to marry the coaching theories he has been thought, with his own ideas and the realities of forming a team. If anyone doubts me on this cast your mind back to how Arteta's 1st 6 months in charge. We are all witnesses to that period. If anything that first 6 months tells you everything you need to know about Arteta and his current battles with the team.

That said, the issue the management needs to decide now is what to do with Arteta. For me it is as clear as 7up. Arteta should just be let go. Let him go and do his coaching internship with a mid-table team. Otherwise, Arsenal will continue on this never ending Arteta's Arsenal's rebuilding process. And you know what will happen? Along the way, some of his current players will fall foul of him and will be shipped out. At a guess one player who might likely do that is MO, our #10. Have you seen how Arteta has restricted his play tactically? Even at that he has created more chances than any other player in the EPL. So imagine if Arteta let's him loose tactically withing what formation he comes up with.

theYemster wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 9:01 pm

azuka wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 7:35 pm

Waffiman wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 6:09 pm

azuka wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 7:37 pm Yes i am good. We enjoy the good days and endure the bad ones. That's football.
That said, i knew Arteta was embarking on a suicidal mission when he was going into the second half of the season with 17 first team players. This much i said then.
And I have seen enough of Arteta to know he can not form the type of team Arsenal fans want. A winning team.

Bro, I have to come and acknowledge a point you made about Arteta. His management of players and resources will come to haunt him.

Yes, I hear we have a young team but for context, the average age of the 07/08 and 08/09 squads were 22.83 and 22.17 respectively, yet, they played one of the most enterprising and enjoyable football in UCL and league. The issue is not the squad, it is poor management. This is the real weakness of Arteta.

Now Saka's Agent is already putting Liverpool in our face. This is the consequence of poor management. Agents see how the Manager treats players and they want their player out.

I don't care how good a manager is, if you don’t have top quality squad depth you will not make it. We lose 2 players, the consequence, we lose 6 out of 13 games. At the heart of the losses are decisions like playing Xhaka at left back twice costing us 6 points.

At a club like Arsenal, Arteta has underachieved again, but with the squad he has in comparison to ManU, Spuds, Chelsea, etc, relatively he overachieved.

I have admit, I am coming to your line of thinking. Arteta is a good coach but I now question if he can make it as a Manager. I know he is young, he now has only one more season to get it right. My bets are not on Arteta.

My bro i totally agree with everything bar 1 you said here. One thing i do not agree with is that he has overachieved given the squad he has. I ask whose fault is it that he has the current squad which he has been unable to win squat with? WHose fault? Arteta. Or whose fault is it that he let players to leave in January without signing replacements? Arteta. So for me he has underachieved given the backing he has from management.

We did not lose the 4th place race at Spuds stadium. Neither did we lose at the Newcastle stadium. We lost it when he let players like Chambers to leave in January without bringing a replacement. Note he approached the 2nd half of the season with 17 first team players. All this boil down to one thing and one thing only.

Having never formed a squad for any team before, he's clueless on how to go about forming a winning squad. Clueless on how to marry the coaching theories he has been thought, with his own ideas and the realities of forming a team. If anyone doubts me on this cast your mind back to how Arteta's 1st 6 months in charge. We are all witnesses to that period. If anything that first 6 months tells you everything you need to know about Arteta and his current battles with the team.

That said, the issue the management needs to decide now is what to do with Arteta. For me it is as clear as 7up. Arteta should just be let go. Let him go and do his coaching internship with a mid-table team. Otherwise, Arsenal will continue on this never ending Arteta's Arsenal's rebuilding process. And you know what will happen? Along the way, some of his current players will fall foul of him and will be shipped out. At a guess one player who might likely do that is MO, our #10. Have you seen how Arteta has restricted his play tactically? Even at that he has created more chances than any other player in the EPL. So imagine if Arteta let's him loose tactically withing what formation he comes up with.

The fact that Arsenal offered him a contract extension shows that the issue goes beyond Arteta.

That said Arteta in my opinion was not qualified to coach Arsenal. He had no head coaching experience and hadn't worked long enough under Pep. Also, I don't believe Pep is as good a coach as he's being made out to be. He's never won anything as coach where he didn't wither have Messi in his squad, or the most expensive team in the competition...or both. His solution to any problem is to splash big money on a player...rather than coach up. So not sure how Arteta's tenure working under him qualified him to coach a team on a budget. His player management style is indicative of someone who feels he has unlimited funds to just easily replace a player, rather than work with them.

In the last decade I've come to lose my passion for Arsenal. I still support the club for I'm no longer as emotionally invested as I used to be. If they win, fine; if they don't, that's okay too. Life goes on. Easier on my psyche that way.