"Victor Osimhen, Romelu Lukaku and Tammy Abraham were just normal strikers abroad." - Capello

[theDunamis]

I guess it hurts deeply not qualifying for 2 WCs in a row and rather than take a hard look in the Italian mirror, it's time for good ol' blame the foreigner. And his selection of foreigners to blame all seem to have one thing in common. Hmm!!

Fabio Capello believes the goalscoring records of Tammy Abraham and Romelu Lukaku in Serie A were signs that Italy’s World Cup humiliation was on the cards.

The Azzurri won last summer’s European Championships, but that success largely papered over the gaping cracks which have been regularly exposed during Italy’s attempts to qualify for Qatar 2022.

A shock defeat against North Macedonia in last night’s play-off ultimately put the final nail in Italy’s hopes of joining the world’s elite international teams in November, but Capello insists the warning signs have been there for a while.

The former England manager pointed to the success Chelsea strikers, past and present, have enjoyed in recent seasons and also told Italian managers they had become obsessed with trying to emulate Pep Guardiola’s style of football.

‘Italian football has imitated Guardiola for 15 years,’ Capello told Sky Sport Italia.

‘There were no vertical passes or physical strength, there is no habit to making challenges. On the other hand, we should follow Jurgen Klopp’s playing style.

‘The only ones doing that in Italy are Atalanta and look at their results. Vincenzo Italiano is trying something similar, same as Alexander Blessin at Genoa who is offering even something more than Klopp. The German way is the model to follow, we don’t have the technique to look at the Spanish one.’

‘There is a high pace in European competition and we are not accustomed to it,’ the ex-coach continued.

‘There are not enough young Italian players, but there is a wrong idea at its base. We are the country of the back pass to the goalkeeper.

‘Victor Osimhen, Romelu Lukaku and Tammy Abraham were just normal strikers abroad. They became champions in Italy. This should raise some questions.

‘Sometimes, I am surprised to read some stats. ‘That player made 45 passes…’ Ok, but how many were key passes? How many of those passes were useful?’

Abraham was deemed surplus to requirements by Chelsea last summer but has taken Serie A by storm this season with Roma and last weekend broke a record previously held by Gabriel Batistuta.

Lukaku’s goals, meanwhile, fired Inter to the Scudetto last season but he has struggled to live up to his £97million club record fee since returning to Stamford Bridge and has been ousted from Thomas Tuchel’s starting line-up by Kai Havertz in recent weeks.

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[Comrade Machel]

Interesting opinion piece by Capello

I feel they lack a true centre forward and Chiellini and Bonucci sjoukd make way for younger bloods

[Kabalega]

Interesting opinion piece by Capello

I feel they lack a true centre forward and Chiellini and Bonucci sjoukd make way for younger bloods

‘There are not enough young Italian players.....
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[danfo driver]

Their league is sh1t and riddled with corruption, bribery and referees making mistakes every weekend for fun. They thought they were "doing" others LMAOOO they didnt know they were doing themselves. There is no competition in that sh1t league. how can there be competition, when referees openly try to make certain teams win games, weekly!? They can continue to watch the world cup from home.

[Scipio Africanus]

I guess it hurts deeply not qualifying for 2 WCs in a row and rather than take a hard look in the Italian mirror, it's time for good ol' blame the foreigner. And his selection of foreigners to blame all seem to have one thing in common. Hmm!!

Fabio Capello believes the goalscoring records of Tammy Abraham and Romelu Lukaku in Serie A were signs that Italy’s World Cup humiliation was on the cards.

The Azzurri won last summer’s European Championships, but that success largely papered over the gaping cracks which have been regularly exposed during Italy’s attempts to qualify for Qatar 2022.

A shock defeat against North Macedonia in last night’s play-off ultimately put the final nail in Italy’s hopes of joining the world’s elite international teams in November, but Capello insists the warning signs have been there for a while.

The former England manager pointed to the success Chelsea strikers, past and present, have enjoyed in recent seasons and also told Italian managers they had become obsessed with trying to emulate Pep Guardiola’s style of football.

‘Italian football has imitated Guardiola for 15 years,’ Capello told Sky Sport Italia.

‘There were no vertical passes or physical strength, there is no habit to making challenges. On the other hand, we should follow Jurgen Klopp’s playing style.

‘The only ones doing that in Italy are Atalanta and look at their results. Vincenzo Italiano is trying something similar, same as Alexander Blessin at Genoa who is offering even something more than Klopp. The German way is the model to follow, we don’t have the technique to look at the Spanish one.’

‘There is a high pace in European competition and we are not accustomed to it,’ the ex-coach continued.

‘There are not enough young Italian players, but there is a wrong idea at its base. We are the country of the back pass to the goalkeeper.

‘Victor Osimhen, Romelu Lukaku and Tammy Abraham were just normal strikers abroad. They became champions in Italy. This should raise some questions.

‘Sometimes, I am surprised to read some stats. ‘That player made 45 passes…’ Ok, but how many were key passes? How many of those passes were useful?’

Abraham was deemed surplus to requirements by Chelsea last summer but has taken Serie A by storm this season with Roma and last weekend broke a record previously held by Gabriel Batistuta.

Lukaku’s goals, meanwhile, fired Inter to the Scudetto last season but he has struggled to live up to his £97million club record fee since returning to Stamford Bridge and has been ousted from Thomas Tuchel’s starting line-up by Kai Havertz in recent weeks.

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Oga I don't think he's blaming foreigners. He's using them to show how bad Italian football is relative to the rest, especially England.

[theDunamis]

Oga I don't think he's blaming foreigners. He's using them to show how bad Italian football is relative to the rest, especially England.

Help me understand that. So, he is trying to show how bad Italian football is relative to the rest by specifically naming 3 players who show that how exactly? What exactly do these 3 players have in common that makes them particularly exemplary of the point he is making?

[Comrade Machel]

Oga I don't think he's blaming foreigners. He's using them to show how bad Italian football is relative to the rest, especially England.

Help me understand that. So, he is trying to show how bad Italian football is relative to the rest by specifically naming 3 players who show that how exactly? What exactly do these 3 players have in common that makes them particularly exemplary of the point he is making?

I thought he is trying to say those 3 rocked the Italian league with goals.and yet in the UK or other leagues they were nothing to write home about in terms of goals

[theDunamis]

I thought he is trying to say those 3 rocked the Italian league with goals.and yet in the UK or other leagues they were nothing to write home about in terms of goals

But that is the exactly the problem. He picked those 3 out of many options he had -- including and more relevantly, Italian strikers he could have picked.

Immobile was not lighting up La Liga or Bundesliga before coming back to Serie A and he would have been a great example to make that point. If that was indeed the point he wanted to make.

Nor was Vlahovic in Serbia. Nor Simeone.

So, what makes Osimhen, Abraham and Lukaku particularly exemplary of his point? Why those 3 players specifically? And particularly Osimhen who was actually scored 20 goals in Belgium and 18 in Ligue 1 just prior to coming to Serie A.

[Comrade Machel]

I thought he is trying to say those 3 rocked the Italian league with goals.and yet in the UK or other leagues they were nothing to write home about in terms of goals

But that is the exactly the problem. He picked those 3 out of many options he had -- including and more relevantly, Italian strikers he could have picked.

Immobile was not lighting up La Liga or Bundesliga before coming back to Serie A and he would have been a great example to make that point. If that was indeed the point he wanted to make.

Nor was Vlahovic in Serbia. Nor Simeone.

So, what makes Osimhen, Abraham and Lukaku particularly exemplary of his point? Why those 3 players specifically? And particularly Osimhen who was actually scored 20 goals in Belgium and 18 in Ligue 1 just prior to coming to Serie A.

I now see your point chief.

Meanwhile Mancini's own mom has stated she would have played Balotelli instead if the wastepipes they did

That Donuruma is a basket case for sure

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... donia.html

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[theDunamis]

I now see your point chief.

Meanwhile Mancini's own mom has stated she would have played Balotelli instead if the wastepipes they did

That Donuruma is a basket case for sure

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... donia.html

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Chei!!! Mancini's mom has zero chills.

[txj]

Their league is sh1t and riddled with corruption, bribery and referees making mistakes every weekend for fun. They thought they were "doing" others LMAOOO they didnt know they were doing themselves. There is no competition in that sh1t league. how can there be competition, when referees openly try to make certain teams win games, weekly!? They can continue to watch the world cup from home.

You have not watched Serie A recently...

[danfo driver]

Their league is sh1t and riddled with corruption, bribery and referees making mistakes every weekend for fun. They thought they were "doing" others LMAOOO they didnt know they were doing themselves. There is no competition in that sh1t league. how can there be competition, when referees openly try to make certain teams win games, weekly!? They can continue to watch the world cup from home.

You have not watched Serie A recently...

Cool story bro.

At least i can count 4 referees who have been dropped by FIGC this season for making "obvious mistakes" against ONE TEAM!! ONLY ONE TEAM!! talkless of If i want to count the number of referees who have been dropped for fooking over the other 15 mid-small teams in the league.

Then you have the likes of Davide Massa who was suspended for his gaffe in the Inter game, or is it Serra's decision in the Milan game, which got him suspended? or the guy who fooked Fiorentina and then got suspended?

LOL you are a funny guy. If you need to know whats going on in Serie A, ask me and I'll tell you game by game.

[txj]

Their league is sh1t and riddled with corruption, bribery and referees making mistakes every weekend for fun. They thought they were "doing" others LMAOOO they didnt know they were doing themselves. There is no competition in that sh1t league. how can there be competition, when referees openly try to make certain teams win games, weekly!? They can continue to watch the world cup from home.

You have not watched Serie A recently...

Cool story bro.

At least i can count 4 referees who have been dropped by FIGC this season for making "obvious mistakes" against ONE TEAM!! ONLY ONE TEAM!! talkless of If i want to count the number of referees who have been dropped for fooking over the other 15 mid-small teams in the league.

Then you have the likes of Davide Massa who was suspended for his gaffe in the Inter game, or is it Serra's decision in the Milan game, which got him suspended? or the guy who fooked Fiorentina and then got suspended?

LOL you are a funny guy. If you need to know whats going on in Serie A, ask me and I'll tell you game by game.

u can count twice that many incidents in the EPL..

[danfo driver]

u can count twice that many incidents in the EPL..

Not the issue. The issue is that you claimed I have not watched Serie A recently. Like I said, if you want to know whats going on in Serie A, ask me and I will tell you.

What concerns me, concerns EPL. Is it my father's league? Did they tell you I was born in England? or even live there? Perhaps you were intending to respond to someone else, because clearly its not me you are using "EPL" to chat with. Can you imagine??!! Wetin concern me, concern EPL? This thread is about Capello and Serie A and you are talking to me about EPL. Abeg bros, no make me laugh.

[txj]

u can count twice that many incidents in the EPL..

Not the issue. The issue is that you claimed I have not watched Serie A recently. Like I said, if you want to know whats going on in Serie A, ask me and I will tell you.

What concerns me, concerns EPL. Is it my father's league? Did they tell you I was born in England? or even live there? Perhaps you were intending to respond to someone else, because clearly its not me you are using "EPL" to chat with. Can you imagine??!! Wetin concern me, concern EPL? This thread is about Capello and Serie A and you are talking to me about EPL. Abeg bros, no make me laugh.

No sir.

The issue is your claim that Serie A is a sh1t league because, among other things, the refs make mistakes.

Yes they do. But just like they do in the PL and La Liga...

[danfo driver]

No sir.

The issue is your claim that Serie A is a sh1t league because, among other things, the refs make mistakes.

Yes they do. But just like they do in the PL and La Liga...

No, Sir, not true. The issue you and I were talking about was your false claim that I do not watch Serie A recently. I debunked it easily.

[ohsee]

Their league is sh1t and riddled with corruption, bribery and referees making mistakes every weekend for fun. They thought they were "doing" others LMAOOO they didnt know they were doing themselves. There is no competition in that sh1t league. how can there be competition, when referees openly try to make certain teams win games, weekly!? They can continue to watch the world cup from home.

You have not watched Serie A recently...

Cool story bro.

At least i can count 4 referees who have been dropped by FIGC this season for making "obvious mistakes" against ONE TEAM!! ONLY ONE TEAM!! talkless of If i want to count the number of referees who have been dropped for fooking over the other 15 mid-small teams in the league.

Then you have the likes of Davide Massa who was suspended for his gaffe in the Inter game, or is it Serra's decision in the Milan game, which got him suspended? or the guy who fooked Fiorentina and then got suspended?

LOL you are a funny guy. If you need to know whats going on in Serie A, ask me and I'll tell you game by game.

u can count twice that many incidents in the EPL..

In a discussion involving the renowned Pentagon Parrot txj? Pure synchronicity.

[txj]

No sir.

The issue is your claim that Serie A is a sh1t league because, among other things, the refs make mistakes.

Yes they do. But just like they do in the PL and La Liga...

No, Sir, not true. The issue you and I were talking about was your false claim that I do not watch Serie A recently. I debunked it easily.

Nope.

the substantive issue is your claim about Serie A. Whether you watch it or not is secondary.

The claims you made about the league, based on the performance of a few refs, cannot stand the test of logic...

[danfo driver]

Nope.

the substantive issue is your claim about Serie A. Whether you watch it or not is secondary.

The claims you made about the league, based on the performance of a few refs, cannot stand the test of logic...

Nope.

It wasnt! The substantive issue between me and you, where you responded to me, was that I "have not watched Serie A recently." I rubbished that assumption and now you know whats up.

As for my claim about the league. Happy to have that discussion separately, AFTER you admit that the issue between me and you was what I stated above.

[txj]

Nope.

the substantive issue is your claim about Serie A. Whether you watch it or not is secondary.

The claims you made about the league, based on the performance of a few refs, cannot stand the test of logic...

Nope.

It wasnt! The substantive issue between me and you, where you responded to me, was that I "have not watched Serie A recently." I rubbished that assumption and now you know whats up.

As for my claim about the league. Happy to have that discussion separately, AFTER you admit that the issue between me and you was what I stated above.

Sorry bro. What u stated above is your understanding of the substantive issue. Its not.
The question was merely a rhetorical one...

[danfo driver]

Sorry bro. What u stated above is your understanding of the substantive issue. Its not.
The question was merely a rhetorical one...

No bro. What I stated above is the issue between me and you. And I addressed it.

[Coach]

Reads as an indictment on the fall of Italian football. Citing 3 foreigners who were modest “where they came from” yet massive in Italy, signals panic and hysteria. Painting them black brings more ides of March than a soothsayer with a crystal ball at Caesar’s Palace (to the “Proud” Italians).

They’ll go full Laurent Blanc next.

[Cristao II]

I am sure it must be a coincidence that all 3 are blacks.