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mate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am I like reading these posts about how various African countries are trying to develop their football. I always come back to the same question: how good are the leagues?

A good league is the foundation on which player pipelining and development occur. Success is tracked. Players produced per capita. Revenue and profits too.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to know about any 1 African country here. But that’s how I’d judge: do the leagues across age groups develop and put players into higher football clubs?

The Goddess wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:00 am

kalani JR wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:09 pm Why is he fighting Yannick Noah?

Samuel Eto'o sends reassuring message to Cameroonians regarding Le Coq Sportif decision:
"Effectively, there are always hard decisions to make and I think I'm sufficiently ready to make them. It's my responsibility; I was voted to make such decisions. People can criticise but at the end they are good decisions. We don't take them because they make us happy; anyone who doesn't respect Cameroon, or the Cameroon Football Federation, cannot work with FECAFOOT which is your Federation. I said it yesterday or day before...in front of some people I don't want to cite here. I'm not that house negro that will sell what is most precious to Cameroonian footballers. I can make errors because I am human; even before God He will forgive me because He knows I'm human; but I will never sell you, my compatriots. Know that! When I take a decision, I think about all what you do. I will explain myself before anyone with proofs...When the time comes, I'll speak with proofs. The proofs are palpable. I don't go around buying journalists to say I'm handsome. The decisions I took are motivated by the proofs. I'm proud to be Cameroonian. I'm proud to be Black. I am Black and a Cameroonian without complex."

Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:35 pm

The Goddess wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:00 am

kalani JR wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:09 pm Why is he fighting Yannick Noah?

Samuel Eto'o sends reassuring message to Cameroonians regarding Le Coq Sportif decision:
"Effectively, there are always hard decisions to make and I think I'm sufficiently ready to make them. It's my responsibility; I was voted to make such decisions. People can criticise but at the end they are good decisions. We don't take them because they make us happy; anyone who doesn't respect Cameroon, or the Cameroon Football Federation, cannot work with FECAFOOT which is your Federation. I said it yesterday or day before...in front of some people I don't want to cite here. I'm not that house negro that will sell what is most precious to Cameroonian footballers. I can make errors because I am human; even before God He will forgive me because He knows I'm human; but I will never sell you, my compatriots. Know that! When I take a decision, I think about all what you do. I will explain myself before anyone with proofs...When the time comes, I'll speak with proofs. The proofs are palpable. I don't go around buying journalists to say I'm handsome. The decisions I took are motivated by the proofs. I'm proud to be Cameroonian. I'm proud to be Black. I am Black and a Cameroonian without complex."

If you are saying those out loud, you have a complex.

mcal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm

mate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am I like reading these posts about how various African countries are trying to develop their football. I always come back to the same question: how good are the leagues?

A good league is the foundation on which player pipelining and development occur. Success is tracked. Players produced per capita. Revenue and profits too.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to know about any 1 African country here. But that’s how I’d judge: do the leagues across age groups develop and put players into higher football clubs?

...in Nigeria the league is poor.
Poorly managed that is, our CE Nigerians know this that's why all the hype and encouragement by some to source players from outside the country to play for the national team.
Our current football chief did not even do matters better by showing his love of a foreign club of which he boast of flying to London to watch every week.
Over all Africa, especially Sub-Saharan, has problem with local leagues.
Probably only South Africa and some north African leagues can measure up to the rest of the world.

• They are send to various leagues, teams, camps, and competitions as necessary, domestically and, to expose them to different styles, abroad.

• They are given a long time to develop, with an emphasis on development over winning competitions. Croatia prioritizes developing a pipeline of players with international youth tournaments over winning them.

• Various leagues should be a competition of nearer equals rather then 1-2 clubs dominating all of them. So when a Croatian is loaned to another team in the league, he gets to play in a pretty good outfit, ironically agains his former team.

mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:02 am

mcal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm

mate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am I like reading these posts about how various African countries are trying to develop their football. I always come back to the same question: how good are the leagues?

A good league is the foundation on which player pipelining and development occur. Success is tracked. Players produced per capita. Revenue and profits too.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to know about any 1 African country here. But that’s how I’d judge: do the leagues across age groups develop and put players into higher football clubs?

...in Nigeria the league is poor.
Poorly managed that is, our CE Nigerians know this that's why all the hype and encouragement by some to source players from outside the country to play for the national team.
Our current football chief did not even do matters better by showing his love of a foreign club of which he boast of flying to London to watch every week.
Over all Africa, especially Sub-Saharan, has problem with local leagues.
Probably only South Africa and some north African leagues can measure up to the rest of the world.

Here is the article I was mentioning. It is long but worth a read. It concretely discusses why Croatia produces better footballers than Scotland...especially regarding the use of quality leagues and competitions, ensuring young players engage top competition, across a long time horizon. An elevator over a ladder approach.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/thre ... st-9114284

There are other factors, but I think this blogger has it right. To summarize how Croatian players are developed:

• They are send to various leagues, teams, camps, and competitions as necessary, domestically and, to expose them to different styles, abroad.

• They are given a long time to develop, with an emphasis on development over winning competitions. Croatia prioritizes developing a pipeline of players with international youth tournaments over winning them.

• Various leagues should be a competition of nearer equals rather then 1-2 clubs dominating all of them. So when a Croatian is loaned to another team in the league, he gets to play in a pretty good outfit, ironically agains his former team.

None of this is hi-tech. Croatian parents and charity must round out state support for top facilities, sports science, and the extras. Davor Suker, Boban, even Modric and current players, get involved actually...to the point of training the players.

Suker with the Croatian FA run academies in the USA. Not so much to make money, mind you, they do and this involves the usual corruption. But more to identify kids of Croatian heritage to augment kids in Croatia.

These are matters of decision and culture. It is important to Croatia to be good in soccer. Much as we like to believe we are better intrinsically...who doesn't believe they aren't?...Croatians take care of the basics to ensure players get an opportunity to develop, play, and have a career in case they don't make it.

mcal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:04 pm

mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:02 am

mcal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm

mate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am I like reading these posts about how various African countries are trying to develop their football. I always come back to the same question: how good are the leagues?

A good league is the foundation on which player pipelining and development occur. Success is tracked. Players produced per capita. Revenue and profits too.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to know about any 1 African country here. But that’s how I’d judge: do the leagues across age groups develop and put players into higher football clubs?

...in Nigeria the league is poor.
Poorly managed that is, our CE Nigerians know this that's why all the hype and encouragement by some to source players from outside the country to play for the national team.
Our current football chief did not even do matters better by showing his love of a foreign club of which he boast of flying to London to watch every week.
Over all Africa, especially Sub-Saharan, has problem with local leagues.
Probably only South Africa and some north African leagues can measure up to the rest of the world.

Here is the article I was mentioning. It is long but worth a read. It concretely discusses why Croatia produces better footballers than Scotland...especially regarding the use of quality leagues and competitions, ensuring young players engage top competition, across a long time horizon. An elevator over a ladder approach.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/thre ... st-9114284

There are other factors, but I think this blogger has it right. To summarize how Croatian players are developed:

• They are send to various leagues, teams, camps, and competitions as necessary, domestically and, to expose them to different styles, abroad.

• They are given a long time to develop, with an emphasis on development over winning competitions. Croatia prioritizes developing a pipeline of players with international youth tournaments over winning them.

• Various leagues should be a competition of nearer equals rather then 1-2 clubs dominating all of them. So when a Croatian is loaned to another team in the league, he gets to play in a pretty good outfit, ironically agains his former team.

None of this is hi-tech. Croatian parents and charity must round out state support for top facilities, sports science, and the extras. Davor Suker, Boban, even Modric and current players, get involved actually...to the point of training the players.

Suker with the Croatian FA run academies in the USA. Not so much to make money, mind you, they do and this involves the usual corruption. But more to identify kids of Croatian heritage to augment kids in Croatia.

These are matters of decision and culture. It is important to Croatia to be good in soccer. Much as we like to believe we are better intrinsically...who doesn't believe they aren't?...Croatians take care of the basics to ensure players get an opportunity to develop, play, and have a career in case they don't make it.

...I can tell you my small mind perspective.
Croatia is a smaller country/people than Nigeria.
Croatia has it's nucleus of citizens, language, religion etc, while in Nigeria we are larger, diverse in language, religion, culture etc.
Those has been the destructive issue affecting Nigeria in it's development in every facet, football included. Many times it's a difficult debate to engage in, else one will be accused of tribalism or sectionalism.
Fostering players to develop, or to invite them to national assignment tend to be looked at with quota and or jaundice eyes.

mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:56 pm no

mcal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:04 pm

mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:02 am

mcal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm

mate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am I like reading these posts about how various African countries are trying to develop their football. I always come back to the same question: how good are the leagues?

A good league is the foundation on which player pipelining and development occur. Success is tracked. Players produced per capita. Revenue and profits too.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to know about any 1 African country here. But that’s how I’d judge: do the leagues across age groups develop and put players into higher football clubs?

...in Nigeria the league is poor.
Poorly managed that is, our CE Nigerians know this that's why all the hype and encouragement by some to source players from outside the country to play for the national team.
Our current football chief did not even do matters better by showing his love of a foreign club of which he boast of flying to London to watch every week.
Over all Africa, especially Sub-Saharan, has problem with local leagues.
Probably only South Africa and some north African leagues can measure up to the rest of the world.

Here is the article I was mentioning. It is long but worth a read. It concretely discusses why Croatia produces better footballers than Scotland...especially regarding the use of quality leagues and competitions, ensuring young players engage top competition, across a long time horizon. An elevator over a ladder approach.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/thre ... st-9114284

There are other factors, but I think this blogger has it right. To summarize how Croatian players are developed:

• They are send to various leagues, teams, camps, and competitions as necessary, domestically and, to expose them to different styles, abroad.

• They are given a long time to develop, with an emphasis on development over winning competitions. Croatia prioritizes developing a pipeline of players with international youth tournaments over winning them.

• Various leagues should be a competition of nearer equals rather then 1-2 clubs dominating all of them. So when a Croatian is loaned to another team in the league, he gets to play in a pretty good outfit, ironically agains his former team.

None of this is hi-tech. Croatian parents and charity must round out state support for top facilities, sports science, and the extras. Davor Suker, Boban, even Modric and current players, get involved actually...to the point of training the players.

Suker with the Croatian FA run academies in the USA. Not so much to make money, mind you, they do and this involves the usual corruption. But more to identify kids of Croatian heritage to augment kids in Croatia.

These are matters of decision and culture. It is important to Croatia to be good in soccer. Much as we like to believe we are better intrinsically...who doesn't believe they aren't?...Croatians take care of the basics to ensure players get an opportunity to develop, play, and have a career in case they don't make it.

...I can tell you my small mind perspective.
Croatia is a smaller country/people than Nigeria.
Croatia has it's nucleus of citizens, language, religion etc, while in Nigeria we are larger, diverse in language, religion, culture etc.
Those has been the destructive issue affecting Nigeria in it's development in every facet, football included. Many times it's a difficult debate to engage in, else one will be accused of tribalism or sectionalism.
Fostering players to develop, or to invite them to national assignment tend to be looked at with quota and or jaundice eyes.

Good point. We had the same in Yugoslavia, which you know blew up.

I’ve no good advice on this. Just don’t let it come to what we did in killing one another. There are better ways.

Football comes 2nd to a peaceful outcome. Thoughts and hopes for you all in this. And I hope football can play a positive role in a positive outcome.

chopachop wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:37 am Well, I don't think it is worship she is just showing what a big difference he has been compared with past FA heads. It gives hope knowing he is doing a great t job hat will bear fruit in the future. You are free to show us some of the good work of Piknik so that we can start harboring hope that the future is bright for Nigerian football.

The Goddess wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:53 am YAOUNDE CAMEROON

ohsee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:47 pm
Your Goddessness, this your worship of Eto is too much na? Wetin? Are you hoping he will see it and boyfriend you? Yes, he was a great striker, in fact, one of the, to me even the best Africa has ever produced, but worshipping every nonsense he does for Cameroon just makes me want to throw up.

mcal wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:33 pm

The Goddess wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:53 am YAOUNDE CAMEROON

...love Samuel Eto'o enthusiasm and forward looking for their football.
But something caught my attention.
Is this ceremony in front of fecafoot national office?
That building look like a road side shop front.

The Goddess wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:47 pm

ohsee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:47 pm
Your Goddessness, this your worship of Eto is too much na? Wetin? Are you hoping he will see it and boyfriend you? Yes, he was a great striker, in fact, one of the, to me even the best Africa has ever produced, but worshipping every nonsense he does for Cameroon just makes me want to throw up.

Mr Ohsee, you had a choice to skip the thread, you know.

ohsee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:19 pm

The Goddess wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:47 pm

ohsee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:47 pm
Your Goddessness, this your worship of Eto is too much na? Wetin? Are you hoping he will see it and boyfriend you? Yes, he was a great striker, in fact, one of the, to me even the best Africa has ever produced, but worshipping every nonsense he does for Cameroon just makes me want to throw up.

Mr Ohsee, you had a choice to skip the thread, you know.

Why? Once I see your name, I know I must not skip the thread.