How the Israel 🇮🇱 v Palestine 🇵🇸 Conflict is Affecting Football

[wiseone]

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[wiseone]

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[wiseone]

[Scipio Africanus]

They are simply sticking up for their brethren, something sub saharan Africans often find very hard to do. Anyway not my concern.

[mcal]

...the clubs are owned by "you know who". Take a wild guess.

[Coach]

Very challenging arena to officiate. Can FIFA, UEFA step forward and insist upon a blanket of silence without accusation of curbing freedom of speech? Should opinions on either side of the line be subdued? For many, this is home, their people, their faith and transcends the chimerical love and loyalty of a Saturday afternoon.

The world has gone to the dogs. Hounds from the Baskervilles.

[Scipio Africanus]

Even Mbappe and Benzema are under scrutiny

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-football

But it is in this context that suspicion about all French Muslims risks being fuelled. A few days after the massacre in Israel, the French TV star Arthur posted a photo of a family murdered by Hamas. He called on those of his “artist friends, actors, singers, comedians and sportsmen” whom he considered had remained too silent to show their “humanity and support” and “stop being afraid”. A news channel hosted a debate about “those stars from whom we don’t hear much support for Israel”. The actor Omar Sy and the footballer Kylian Mbappé were named, both of them black and from Muslim families.

I feel uneasy about such exhortations. As a Muslim myself, I feel the weight of suspicion, the allusive comments scrutinising my tweets and questioning my supposed silences. How can anyone imagine for a moment that we are not horrified by the massacre of Israelis as they gathered to mark a holy day in their homes, or enjoyed themselves at a music festival? Is our humanity so open to question that we have to trumpet it after every tragedy to reassure our fellow citizens that we are not bloodthirsty savages?

And if we do choose to voice empathy for the “wrong” victims, we risk having our words misinterpreted or worse. When the French footballer Karim Benzema posted a message on X sending “prayers for the people of Gaza, victims once again of unjust bombings which don’t spare women or children”, the backlash was shocking. The interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, accused the soccer star of having links to the Muslim Brotherhood, a hardline Islamist group classified as a terrorist organisation in the US and in Saudi Arabia, where Benzema lives.


This baseless allegation, which Benzema has denied, led to calls, including from a conservative senator, for the footballer to be stripped not just of his Ballon d’Or 2022 football award but of his French citizenship. This episode leaves me again feeling that our Frenchness is open to debate. The constant questioning of our loyalty shows how fragile the perception of our belonging to France remains.

[mcal]

...these players stances were just like the BLM and pro sports players kneeling during national anthem at games. Of course one major star loss his job no big thanks to the hate leader at the time, Trump.

[wiseone]

It is really weird how:

1) For the past 12+ months, footballers have been wearing pro-Ukraine flags and banners, and posting pro-Ukraine messages on their social media handles without consequence (and in fact their clubs and governments sanctioned or forced such actions on them); and

2) The same clubs suspended players that posted messages expressing unhappiness about civilians being killed in Gaza

[ohsee]

It is really weird how:

1) For the past 12+ months, footballers have been wearing pro-Ukraine flags and banners, and posting pro-Ukraine messages on their social media handles without consequence (and in fact their clubs and governments sanctioned or forced such actions on them); and

2) The same clubs suspended players that posted messages expressing unhappiness about civilians being killed in Gaza

The whole ugly set of events in Palestine basically confirms what any perceptive person knows--that despite all claims to civilization, and despite its shiny veneer of technological superiority, the West remains a primitive tribal people with primitive tribal biases, and a primitive tribal eagerness to act with ferocious barbarism against perceived lesser breeds.

[mcal]

It is really weird how:

1) For the past 12+ months, footballers have been wearing pro-Ukraine flags and banners, and posting pro-Ukraine messages on their social media handles without consequence (and in fact their clubs and governments sanctioned or forced such actions on them); and

2) The same clubs suspended players that posted messages expressing unhappiness about civilians being killed in Gaza

...a case of man pass man. Very unfortunate, the Arab/Muslim world gave up on the Palestinians when Arafat died.

[wiseone]

[wiseone]

[Bigpokey24]

Difference here , Ukraine hides behind no terrorist organization. Hamas is the issue here. The other issue here is those who are trying to call out the Israelis attacks are ignoring what HAMAS did. We all know how the killing of the Jews in Nazi times started.

The West will not allow such. I don't know how some of una no fit see this.

[wiseone]

The breathtaking aspect is that they do not even bother to hide their hypocrisy any more. It is so brazen in the way that Russia has been isolated for over a year, yet other countries who do the same or worse are excused.

The whole ugly set of events in Palestine basically confirms what any perceptive person knows--that despite all claims to civilization, and despite its shiny veneer of technological superiority, the West remains a primitive tribal people with primitive tribal biases, and a primitive tribal eagerness to act with ferocious barbarism against perceived lesser breeds.

[wiseone]