Inter 4(Martinez, -oglu, Acerbi, Frattesi) Barca 3 (Garcia, Olmo, Raphinha) FT. Inter in finale!

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If Barca played with a little less risk, stepped back 10 yards, they’re a different side all together. Condensing the pitch allows the incessant application of pressure. The turnovers, the counter presses, the overloads, its all down to going full Postacoglu. All the salad. “Chilli sauwss?”. Need you ask.
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txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:35 pm
ohsee wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:28 pm Barca need to learn how to defend. :mad: Anyway, I predict.....I no predict natin. I don't know who will win this Champs League this year. :biggrin: But this was a great game, even better than Argies vs Uruguay WC 1930, which my papa saw when he was 5. danfo take note. :biggrin:

Its not so much about learning how to defend as it is about being more efficient in what they do. I mean, it took Sommer to win this game.

If your approach to the game is able to create this number of chances, it's more about getting better at what you do.
Chief, a no sabi oh. Better defending could have won them this game. What is the point of scoring more goals if you are just going to allow your opposition to get goals back so easily?
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txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:29 pm
green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:17 pm
danfo driver wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:16 pm Tactically and in maturity, Inter is superior to Barca.

This Inter has won League titles for fun! They have been to the Cl finals and Semi finals. They have been there and know how to handle this situation. Well deserved!

Barca has talent and if they recruit well this summer, they will return very strongly to be in contention for the CL title.
Pretty much. That's the difference over the 2 legs.

I don't think anything about the game showed Barcelona to be tactically inferior. It's a high risk game they play. One has to respect that.
The results prove it in the numbers of chances they create.

But it doesn't mean that they can't improve
Tactical inferiority wasn't asserted. For me, its more of slight inexperience in tactical implementation partly due to youth and partly because they are still in the Flick's 1st season compared to Inzaghi's 3rd season of playing the same system.
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Coach wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:40 pm If Barca played with a little less risk, stepped back 10 yards, they’re a different side all together. Condensing the pitch allows the incessant application of pressure. The turnovers, the counter presses, the overloads, its all down to going full Postacoglu. All the salad. “Chilli sauwss?”. Need you ask.


They can get better at what they do without metastizing into a Tony Pulis led side
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ohsee wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:42 pm
txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:35 pm
ohsee wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:28 pm Barca need to learn how to defend. :mad: Anyway, I predict.....I no predict natin. I don't know who will win this Champs League this year. :biggrin: But this was a great game, even better than Argies vs Uruguay WC 1930, which my papa saw when he was 5. danfo take note. :biggrin:

Its not so much about learning how to defend as it is about being more efficient in what they do. I mean, it took Sommer to win this game.

If your approach to the game is able to create this number of chances, it's more about getting better at what you do.
Chief, a no sabi oh. Better defending could have won them this game. What is the point of scoring more goals if you are just going to allow your opposition to get goals back so easily?


Sometimes its simply down to the excellence of the opposition not the mistakes.

None of those goals by Inter came cheap.
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green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:43 pm
txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:29 pm
green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:17 pm
danfo driver wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:16 pm Tactically and in maturity, Inter is superior to Barca.

This Inter has won League titles for fun! They have been to the Cl finals and Semi finals. They have been there and know how to handle this situation. Well deserved!

Barca has talent and if they recruit well this summer, they will return very strongly to be in contention for the CL title.
Pretty much. That's the difference over the 2 legs.

I don't think anything about the game showed Barcelona to be tactically inferior. It's a high risk game they play. One has to respect that.
The results prove it in the numbers of chances they create.

But it doesn't mean that they can't improve
Tactical inferiority wasn't asserted. For me, its more of slight inexperience in tactical implementation partly due to youth and partly because they are still in the Flick's 1st season compared to Inzaghi's 3rd season of playing the same system.

Was in response to the original post. But you are right that Inter has had a longer project.

It should be noted though that they were missing their fullbacks.
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Wow!!!

7-6 after 210 minutes. Never seen a better 2-leg tie. It's one for the ages. Well done Inter and Barca for this classic. Barca came and then went back. Defence & goalkeeping won.

This tie has to be final. We wait to the conclusion of the 3rd place match tomorrow.
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Between Denzel Dumfries (2 goals, 3 assists) and Yann Sommer (14 shots stopped by my evaluation), who should be Inter Milan's man of the tie in the 2-leg victory over Barca?
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green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:43 pm
txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:29 pm
green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:17 pm
danfo driver wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:16 pm Tactically and in maturity, Inter is superior to Barca.

This Inter has won League titles for fun! They have been to the Cl finals and Semi finals. They have been there and know how to handle this situation. Well deserved!

Barca has talent and if they recruit well this summer, they will return very strongly to be in contention for the CL title.
Pretty much. That's the difference over the 2 legs.

I don't think anything about the game showed Barcelona to be tactically inferior. It's a high risk game they play. One has to respect that.
The results prove it in the numbers of chances they create.

But it doesn't mean that they can't improve
You cant compare. No one is saying Barca is bad, but the truth is there -- Inter is tactically superior to them and has significantly more maturity and experience at this level.
Tactical inferiority wasn't asserted. For me, its more of slight inexperience in tactical implementation partly due to youth and partly because they are still in the Flick's 1st season compared to Inzaghi's 3rd season of playing the same system.
People are forgetting that most of these Barca players are children. 9 months ago, many people didnt even know most of them existed. Flick promoted them just 8 months ago. Compare that to Inter! A seasoned Champion that has won titles with the same coach and most of the same players. They have also played CL semi finals 2-3 times together, recently.
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danfo driver wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 11:18 pm
green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:43 pm
txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:29 pm
green4life wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:17 pm
danfo driver wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:16 pm Tactically and in maturity, Inter is superior to Barca.

This Inter has won League titles for fun! They have been to the Cl finals and Semi finals. They have been there and know how to handle this situation. Well deserved!

Barca has talent and if they recruit well this summer, they will return very strongly to be in contention for the CL title.
Pretty much. That's the difference over the 2 legs.

I don't think anything about the game showed Barcelona to be tactically inferior. It's a high risk game they play. One has to respect that.
The results prove it in the numbers of chances they create.

But it doesn't mean that they can't improve
You cant compare. No one is saying Barca is bad, but the truth is there -- Inter is tactically superior to them and has significantly more maturity and experience at this level.
Tactical inferiority wasn't asserted. For me, its more of slight inexperience in tactical implementation partly due to youth and partly because they are still in the Flick's 1st season compared to Inzaghi's 3rd season of playing the same system.
People are forgetting that most of these Barca players are children. 9 months ago, many people didnt even know most of them existed. Flick promoted them just 8 months ago. Compare that to Inter! A seasoned Champion that has won titles with the same coach and most of the same players. They have also played CL semi finals 2-3 times together, recently.

I understand the difference in the age of the two projects and game model. But I wouldn't put Barca's loss down to inexperience. Not based on the data from the games...Just look at the chances in the game that Sommer saved...
The CL is about moments. Inter took theirs...
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txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 11:39 pm

I understand the difference in the age of the two projects and game model. But I wouldn't put Barca's loss down to inexperience. Not based on the data from the games...Just look at the chances in the game that Sommer saved...
The CL is about moments. Inter took theirs...
I disagree with you. I watched the whole game and wont rely on data to analyze it. Lets look at some specific aspects.

Inter went up 2-0 and Barca changed tactics. They started using Antonio Conte's Chelsea's "lump it to the back post." I thought Inter should have slapped the hell out of their strikers and forced them to press (something they clearly dont know how to do), but Inzaghi chose to make another change -- change his left back for a taller one. It came too late, anyway. However, he still reacted with that change, and then reacted again by taking out Lautaro for Teremi. And that was a game changer. Teremi worked very hard and did everything, on the defensive and transitional end that Lautaro failed to do. Watch the game again, from when Teremi came in and you will see how pivotal that change was.

As for Barca, they score and had 3 minutes to manage the game and they couldn't manage it! Complete tactical naiveté cost them the goal that Arcebi scored. Lets call a spade what it is -- a spade -- and not sugar coat it because its Hansi Flick and Barca. If another team defended that poorly with 3 minutes to go, we will all call them tactically naive.

The teams that are tactically superior to this inter in the whole of Europe is not more than 2, MAXXX!!! I am not saying Inter is better than Barca, but in terms of tactics, I cant even think of another team that is better than them. Maybe if I take some time to think, I'll come up with 1 or 2 max.
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danfo driver wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 12:01 am
txj wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 11:39 pm

I understand the difference in the age of the two projects and game model. But I wouldn't put Barca's loss down to inexperience. Not based on the data from the games...Just look at the chances in the game that Sommer saved...
The CL is about moments. Inter took theirs...
I disagree with you. I watched the whole game and wont rely on data to analyze it. Lets look at some specific aspects.

Inter went up 2-0 and Barca changed tactics. They started using Antonio Conte's Chelsea's "lump it to the back post." I thought Inter should have slapped the hell out of their strikers and forced them to press (something they clearly dont know how to do), but Inzaghi chose to make another change -- change his left back for a taller one. It came too late, anyway. However, he still reacted with that change, and then reacted again by taking out Lautaro for Teremi. And that was a game changer. Teremi worked very hard and did everything, on the defensive and transitional end that Lautaro failed to do. Watch the game again, from when Teremi came in and you will see how pivotal that change was.

As for Barca, they score and had 3 minutes to manage the game and they couldn't manage it! Complete tactical naiveté cost them the goal that Arcebi scored. Lets call a spade what it is -- a spade -- and not sugar coat it because its Hansi Flick and Barca. If another team defended that poorly with 3 minutes to go, we will all call them tactically naive.

The teams that are tactically superior to this inter in the whole of Europe is not more than 2, MAXXX!!! I am not saying Inter is better than Barca, but in terms of tactics, I cant even think of another team that is better than them. Maybe if I take some time to think, I'll come up with 1 or 2 max.

Barca changed tactics by lumping it to the far post..
This is what I mean by analysis by rote..

When Inter twice lost a two goals lead, was it maturity or immaturity?

Pointless continuing with such pickles
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Thought my favorite two legged tie was when Mourinho stared down Barcelona in their prime
and escaped Camp Nou despite being down two
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But this is just an all time classic.
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This was the final before the final.
If Inter gets another gear or just maintain this level in the final they nick the cup from PSG.
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Man, I missed a cracker, sounds like
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PSG-Inter Milan, odds on. Were the former to win, the case for Ousmane Dembele, Balon D’Or would be very compelling.

Can the mighty Arsenal do the unthinkable? If Arteta has any sense, he’ll be on the phone gathering words of wisdom from the indomitable, imperial, Caesar or Caesars. Giaus Antoninius Pulis. Without which, failure is certain.
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bret- hart wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:24 pm Thuram is so overrated. Useless striker Barca 3-2 up. Finish these bums
Can anyone please explain me what Thuram brings to the team? I do not get it
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I have no doubt and I can bet anything that Arsenal will win the Champions League if they can make it past PSG
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Thelastoneleft wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 11:30 am
bret- hart wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:24 pm Thuram is so overrated. Useless striker Barca 3-2 up. Finish these bums
Can anyone please explain me what Thuram brings to the team? I do not get it
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Coach wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 12:07 pm
Thelastoneleft wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 11:30 am
bret- hart wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:24 pm Thuram is so overrated. Useless striker Barca 3-2 up. Finish these bums
Can anyone please explain me what Thuram brings to the team? I do not get it
Think full energy bar Emenike with a cooking spoonful of prime time Paul d#$%.
Full energy I thought as well until I noticed he was already running on empty by the 100th minute.
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I can see the low life, Ekwensu, all over this thread, while his CURSED team is about to finish the season as losers! :lol:
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