[WC2014] France 2-0 Nigeria: FT (Pogba, Yobo(OG))

[lagos777]

You are right, there are very fundamental issues involved.

But even on the ephemeral level of player selection, there were much better players in the local league than Oshaniwa.

And I would have the same expectations from an Isaac Success or Musa Mohammed as any player in the current SE.

Afterall, how many years has Oboabona been in high level football?

I will beg to defer to you on the issue of better players in the local league, I know little about it. I'm surprised you mention Oboabona, didn't keshi bring him in ? Also, in my opinion are home based players are technically deficient mostly, heck our pros are too.

I'm curious why you chose Oshaniwa thou, he was one of the better performers in our world cup squad in my opinion. the big players were the ones that let us down. What would you have said if Keshi had dropped Obi and Moses prior to this competition ? I think you would have called for his head.

[wale1974]

You are right, there are very fundamental issues involved.

But even on the ephemeral level of player selection, there were much better players in the local league than Oshaniwa.

And I would have the same expectations from an Isaac Success or Musa Mohammed as any player in the current SE.

Afterall, how many years has Oboabona been in high level football?

I will beg to defer to you on the issue of better players in the local league, I know little about it. I'm surprised you mention Oboabona, didn't keshi bring him in ? Also, in my opinion are home based players are technically deficient mostly, heck our pros are too.

I'm curious why you chose Oshaniwa thou, he was one of the better performers in our world cup squad in my opinion. the big players were the ones that let us down. What would you have said if Keshi had dropped Obi and Moses prior to this competition ? I think you would have called for his head.

Not just yours, most us would agree with u on this one

[wale1974]

I saw the under 17s play a brand of football i thought Nigeria had forgotten, wondered why none of them could make the squad, they certainly could not have been any worse than Yobo, then again, i saw 2 images of the african players sharing millions as if they took part in bank robbery, then i knew it was over, money money money!! not football, thats why they are all out!!

Let's not carried away here
Are they really under 17
Anyway the goalie and Isaac should have been included for the experience just like ronaldo in 94.

[wale1974]

The squad was thin on talent, germany had 23 world class players to choose from, Brazil about the same, France were able to make excellent subs, Nigeria had absolutely nothing!! apart from the starting 11, where was the game changers?? when Onazi went off, there should have been a more than capable players if not better that could come in and tidy things up, the Germans can always bring in world class substitutes as in nothing was wrong, sorry for the squad that Nigeria took, 2nd round was a solid acheivement, France always looked more dangerous than Nigeria on the break and it was only a matter of time that this clear advantage was going to show up! sadly it did, the goal was even coming, you could see the pressure building up, you dont give Europeans too many set pieces, they will punish you without a doubt, Nigeria problem has always been concentration, how many times did you see Mikel give away the ball carelessly, at least 4-5 times, sorry Nigeria football is only good in Africa, when you face the best in the world, they are always foud out

The bitter truth

[txj]

You are right, there are very fundamental issues involved.

But even on the ephemeral level of player selection, there were much better players in the local league than Oshaniwa.

And I would have the same expectations from an Isaac Success or Musa Mohammed as any player in the current SE.

Afterall, how many years has Oboabona been in high level football?

I will beg to defer to you on the issue of better players in the local league, I know little about it. I'm surprised you mention Oboabona, didn't keshi bring him in ? Also, in my opinion are home based players are technically deficient mostly, heck our pros are too.


I'm curious why you chose Oshaniwa thou, he was one of the better performers in our world cup squad in my opinion. the big players were the ones that let us down. What would you have said if Keshi had dropped Obi and Moses prior to this competition ? I think you would have called for his head.

I also praised Oshaniwa for his efforts and being one of the better players, which by itself doesn't say a lot...

You cannot fault him for effort and application, but at core, he was such a technically poor player....

But I singled him out for the malaise that has befallen our football in (1) development of players; and (2) scouting/selection of players.

For a country that for years produced LBs like Isima, Sofoluwe (LB/RB), Iroha, Babayaro, etc to end with Oshaniwa at the WC is evidence of fundamental problems.

The process by which players come to prominence and the attention of NT selectors, is influenced considerably by the strength of agency representation.

Sometimes quality meets strong agency representation (see Iheanacho, Isaac), but its not always the case...

[metalalloy]

Depth this , depth that. We don't have the players. Their is no team Nigeria could have come up with that would have been expected to get to the quarter finals of the the world cup. Thinking otherwise is delusions of grandiose. We have a bunch of loonies running around this forum talking nonsense.

Arguably, the most talented team we've ever assembled is the USA 94 team front to back. They also played the best brand of football IMHO. They didn't get past the second round. Suddenly you think a team of Uche, Haruna, Mba, Moses, Mikel and whoever else you think is are gonna be better than Finidi, Yekini, Amotaxi, Amunike, and SSS. What are you guys on.

NIGERIA lacks the talent. We are not that good. We don't have a single outfield player that's top 10 in their position world wide. France that beat us are deep and talented. Heck they lost Ribery and they didn't blink. We don't have anyone on this Nigerian team that starts for France. And for the heroes you guys are clamoring for depth, who are they ? You feaking think Uche would start for France ? or Haruna ? Are u kidding me ? I saw some lunatic complaining about depth when Belgium played yesterday, i just shook my head. Eminike doesn't make the Belgium 23. Not to talk of starting.

The best player on our team in this world cup was Onazi. Once we lost him the game was lost. Their is no one that Keshi left at home that would have been able to carry Onazi's jock strap in that game. You can have depth but when a key player goes down, it very difficult for teams to survive , especially when equals to your opponents, not to talk of when you're over matched to start with. You watch Argentina try to beat Belgium without Messi and come tell me about their depth. France without that kid in their middle for them looks different, kid was massive. Neymarless brazil will be average team. So is Holland without Robben.

Did keshi make some mistakes, I think he did. He put too much faith in Mikel and dude was let us down. So did Moses. Those were our key players and they just didn't play well. I can imagine the uproar if keshi had left them both at home

How many top 10 ten talents does Costa Rica have? How many Costa Rican players would start for Italy, England, and the other teams theybeat?

You do not need a team full of top 10 talents.

[lagos777]

How many top 10 ten talents does Costa Rica have? How many Costa Rican players would start for Italy, England, and the other teams theybeat?

You do not need a team full of top 10 talents.

You don't but that means you need to get lucky. Costa Rica got Greece, we got France. We got unlucky somewhat with the officiating and not taking an early chance. Ish happens.
my point is they are more talented and have a good coach, no reason we should feel entitled to a win !