Shearer: Only one world class player in the EPL
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Madrid got rid of Ozil. I doubt if he would have played in the WC if Reus was fit. I think Isco is better than him (and he can't hold down a place at Madrid).kalamashaka wrote: With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
Mathieu is a squad player at Barca.
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Pogba is top world class............when you get compared to Platini and Zidane by folks like Massimo Mauro .cic old boy wrote:I can bet my last penny that Klopp wouldn't buy any of those players if he had the chance. They are not mobile enough for him. He was just being polite when he praised them.zee wrote: My man, when it comes to football & coaching, the Dean has the final say...................and the DEAN CALLED IBRA and POGBA world class and that settles it.
What's happening to Pobga and Ibra simply shows what a daft, cowardly coach can do to world class players. You remember king Pele warning BFA and Neymar's father, never to allow Neymar to play under the football coward.
Cruyff nailed it on Ibra: "good technique for a bad player, bad technique for a good player."
Although Massimo Mauro says that at the moment Pogba is not in the 'level' of Platini and Zidane, the mere fact that he says with 'hard work' he will be in the same class with messers Platini and Zidane settles this world class discussion.
If Pogba is not world class, then world class has lost it's meaning.
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Nna, shining in a bankrupt Italy is not what world class is. Watch the Euros and see if Pogba did anything. A final in your home country and you decide to stroll around and even get dropped. I would pick Moussa Sissoko over him any day and nobody calls him world class.zee wrote:
Pogba is top world class............when you get compared to Platini and Zidane by folks like Massimo Mauro .
Although Massimo Mauro says that at the moment Pogba is not in the 'level' of Platini and Zidane, the mere fact that he says with 'hard work' he will be in the same class with messers Platini and Zidane settles this world class discussion.
If Pogba is not world class, then world class has lost it's meaning.
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Silva, Ozil, Progba, Sanchez, De Gea, KDBcic old boy wrote:Name them.kalamashaka wrote:Shearer's a pillock though..wonder why anyone takes anything he says seriously. There are quite a few players playing their trade in England that would improve ANY team in world football
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metalalloy wrote:kalamashaka wrote:With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?cic old boy wrote:Ozil, Ospina, Ericksen, Kos, etc are just good players.kalamashaka wrote: It's a very subjective thing anyway but; DDG, Aguero, Mesut Ozil, KdB, Alexis (with the possible exception of Barcelona), Ospina, Hugo Lloris, Courtois, Ericksen, Koscielny etc..and Coutinho is on the way there as well
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
I agree, but How many of the top 3 or 5 teams play with a "#10"?
That's a different discussion entirely, no?
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How many finals has Messi won for his country?cic old boy wrote:Nna, shining in a bankrupt Italy is not what world class is. Watch the Euros and see if Pogba did anything. A final in your home country and you decide to stroll around and even get dropped. I would pick Moussa Sissoko over him any day and nobody calls him world class.zee wrote:
Pogba is top world class............when you get compared to Platini and Zidane by folks like Massimo Mauro .
Although Massimo Mauro says that at the moment Pogba is not in the 'level' of Platini and Zidane, the mere fact that he says with 'hard work' he will be in the same class with messers Platini and Zidane settles this world class discussion.
If Pogba is not world class, then world class has lost it's meaning.
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That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.cic old boy wrote:Madrid got rid of Ozil. I doubt if he would have played in the WC if Reus was fit. I think Isco is better than him (and he can't hold down a place at Madrid).kalamashaka wrote: With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
Mathieu is a squad player at Barca.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
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Now, that's comedy.kalamashaka wrote:That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.cic old boy wrote:Madrid got rid of Ozil. I doubt if he would have played in the WC if Reus was fit. I think Isco is better than him (and he can't hold down a place at Madrid).kalamashaka wrote: With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
Mathieu is a squad player at Barca.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
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Glad you enjoyed it....I'm here all week!zee wrote:Now, that's comedy.kalamashaka wrote:That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.cic old boy wrote:Madrid got rid of Ozil. I doubt if he would have played in the WC if Reus was fit. I think Isco is better than him (and he can't hold down a place at Madrid).kalamashaka wrote: With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
Mathieu is a squad player at Barca.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
"How many white men went in the party that destroyed Abame?"
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I kindly ignore your comment on Koscielny, but you are right on Özil. World class player, and Reus would not have started for Özil under no circumstances.kalamashaka wrote:That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.cic old boy wrote:Madrid got rid of Ozil. I doubt if he would have played in the WC if Reus was fit. I think Isco is better than him (and he can't hold down a place at Madrid).kalamashaka wrote: With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
Mathieu is a squad player at Barca.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
CIC does not know what constitutes a good player, he was the one saying that Jesus Navas is a better player than Thomas Müller.
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I think you have to factor that in though. He didn't say "squad" he said "team". If a team doesn't play with a no 10, then Ozil shouldn't really be in the discussion as being able to make the starting 11 of that team.kalamashaka wrote:metalalloy wrote:kalamashaka wrote:With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?cic old boy wrote:Ozil, Ospina, Ericksen, Kos, etc are just good players.kalamashaka wrote: It's a very subjective thing anyway but; DDG, Aguero, Mesut Ozil, KdB, Alexis (with the possible exception of Barcelona), Ospina, Hugo Lloris, Courtois, Ericksen, Koscielny etc..and Coutinho is on the way there as well
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
I agree, but How many of the top 3 or 5 teams play with a "#10"?
That's a different discussion entirely, no?
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
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He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
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Maybe they would play with a 10 if they had Özilmetalalloy wrote:I think you have to factor that in though. He didn't say "squad" he said "team". If a team doesn't play with a no 10, then Ozil shouldn't really be in the discussion as being able to make the starting 11 of that team.kalamashaka wrote:metalalloy wrote:kalamashaka wrote:With the exception of Barcelona/Argentina, which team in world football has a better #10 than Ozil (Ericksen is just a step below him, I think)?cic old boy wrote:Ozil, Ospina, Ericksen, Kos, etc are just good players.kalamashaka wrote: It's a very subjective thing anyway but; DDG, Aguero, Mesut Ozil, KdB, Alexis (with the possible exception of Barcelona), Ospina, Hugo Lloris, Courtois, Ericksen, Koscielny etc..and Coutinho is on the way there as well
Is Matthieu, for instance, a better CB than Kos?
I agree, but How many of the top 3 or 5 teams play with a "#10"?
That's a different discussion entirely, no?
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I'm a better player than Thomas Muller. He's just efficient.kofi86 wrote: I kindly ignore your comment on Koscielny, but you are right on Özil. World class player, and Reus would not have started for Özil under no circumstances.
CIC does not know what constitutes a good player, he was the one saying that Jesus Navas is a better player than Thomas Müller.
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Reus has been injured a lot lately. Madrid are not going to get rid of Crissie and Bale. But they dumped Ozil. I'm glad what you said about Kos was your "feeling".kalamashaka wrote: That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
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OK, Pogba is as good as Messi. At least Messi helps his team get to the final. Pogba helped France on the bench.zee wrote:
How many finals has Messi won for his country?
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cic old boy wrote:Reus has been injured a lot lately. Madrid are not going to get rid of Crissie and Bale. But they dumped Ozil. I'm glad what you said about Kos was your "feeling".kalamashaka wrote: That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
As said above they dumped Makelele, they dumped Robben, they dumped quite a few great players.
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surecic old boy wrote:I'm a better player than Thomas Muller. He's just efficient.kofi86 wrote: I kindly ignore your comment on Koscielny, but you are right on Özil. World class player, and Reus would not have started for Özil under no circumstances.
CIC does not know what constitutes a good player, he was the one saying that Jesus Navas is a better player than Thomas Müller.
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kofi86 wrote:
Maybe they would play with a 10 if they had Özil
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
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Re: Shearer: Only one world class player in the EPL
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All of this is just what each of us thinks or how we feel...it's not as if there is an objective criteria to decide what's 'world class' or not...or even what anyone means when they say 'world class, no?cic old boy wrote:Reus has been injured a lot lately. Madrid are not going to get rid of Crissie and Bale. But they dumped Ozil. I'm glad what you said about Kos was your "feeling".kalamashaka wrote: That's your opinion though, you don't know that about Reus (and for some reason, the Germans keep voting Ozil their best player so...), as for Isco, agree to disagree. Madrid getting rid of a player says nothing about the quality of the player considering how that club is run...they discarded Makelele at his peak and got Beckham instead.
As for Koscielny, I feel he would walk into almost team in world football.
P.S. Which teams (club & int'l) would not have Koscielny?
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Kos is at the Arse b/c the big boys don't want him.kalamashaka wrote:
All of this is just what each of us thinks or how we feel...it's not as if there is an objective criteria to decide what's 'world class' or not...or even what anyone means when they say 'world class, no?
P.S. Which teams (club & int'l) would not have Koscielny?
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Those two are world class. Ozil is not.kofi86 wrote:
As said above they dumped Makelele, they dumped Robben, they dumped quite a few great players.
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