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Cito wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Again no Coach or manager can get a sustainable run with this group.
The key parts are broken and need replacement.
Klopp could never achieve success if he was starting
Dejan Lovren, Karius and Ballotelli.
There are Judas’ within the team that have to be excised.
But but.. Ehem Mancini won the league with Balotelli playing :lol:
Are u with the program Sir?
We are talking EPL and making a strident point.
And yer referring to a young player when Inter
was dominant in Serie A.
Sometimes you don’t have 2 force yourself 2 make a comment ya know.
And I take it Mancini did not win the EPL with City. Sometimes you need to have a good depth of what you are talking about.
OMg, this is a spinning wheel.
Nah not this week...
Mancini won the EPL with Balotelli playing.
Dude is in another world. He hasn't recovered from the shock of the loss.
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Cristao II wrote:
Cito wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Again no Coach or manager can get a sustainable run with this group.
The key parts are broken and need replacement.
Klopp could never achieve success if he was starting
Dejan Lovren, Karius and Ballotelli.
There are Judas’ within the team that have to be excised.
But but.. Ehem Mancini won the league with Balotelli playing :lol:
Are u with the program Sir?
We are talking EPL and making a strident point.
And yer referring to a young player when Inter
was dominant in Serie A.
Sometimes you don’t have 2 force yourself 2 make a comment ya know.
And I take it Mancini did not win the EPL with City. Sometimes you need to have a good depth of what you are talking about.
OMg, this is a spinning wheel.
Nah not this week...
Mancini won the EPL with Balotelli playing.
Dude is in another world. He hasn't recovered from the shock of the loss.
Oh my days.
It’s dumb and dumber
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oloye wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
oloye wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
Gooner1 wrote:1. Luiz & Arteta are not on speaking terms
2. The squad did not like the way Arteta publicly throw Pepe under the bus
3. The players are not responding to Arteta
4. There are factions growing within the team

Arteta has lost the confidence of the players
If all these are happening in your team then you have to query the character and professionalism of your team and their loyalty to the club and fans.
It is said some are in solidarity with Ozil and Guendoppy.
It seems doing the job they are paid to do is secondary to their childish emotions.
That $#% happens in every dressing room, especially when the same manager or management allows the likes of Xhaka to be running riot on the team for the fun of it. How many games has that thug cost Arsenal?
Players fight and have grievances at every club. But to down tools and not apply yourself to the job you're being paid is just wtlrong on every level.
You can be in solidiarity with someone, not talk to a team mate but on the field, get the job done
They did not down tools, just can't be motivated. These are two different things.
Egbon mi, thiz is a matter of "you say tomato and I say to-mar-to".
They were not motivated under Wenger, not motivated under "Good Ebening" and now not motivated under Arteta?
With all the politics of rejecting one of their own, someone signing a big contract and the team winning a cup at the end of last season, Arsenal problems goes beyond " motivation/downing tools etc.
Even the fans will have to recognize their problem will not be resolved in 3 or 4 seasons.
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Cito wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Again no Coach or manager can get a sustainable run with this group.
The key parts are broken and need replacement.
Klopp could never achieve success if he was starting
Dejan Lovren, Karius and Ballotelli.
There are Judas’ within the team that have to be excised.
But but.. Ehem Mancini won the league with Balotelli playing :lol:
Are u with the program Sir?
We are talking EPL and making a strident point.
And yer referring to a young player when Inter
was dominant in Serie A.
Sometimes you don’t have 2 force yourself 2 make a comment ya know.
And I take it Mancini did not win the EPL with City. Sometimes you need to have a good depth of what you are talking about.
OMg, this is a spinning wheel.
Nah not this week...
Mancini won the EPL with Balotelli playing.
Wow.
Another RockHead.
Keep missing the point and why
are we singling out BALLO?
Was he the only one mentioned there?
Jeez.
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It’s just gets better.
Arsenal draw Benfica in the round of 32.
Will Arteta even Be the coach by then?
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oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Again no Coach or manager can get a sustainable run with this group.
The key parts are broken and need replacement.
Klopp could never achieve success if he was starting
Dejan Lovren, Karius and Ballotelli.
There are Judas’ within the team that have to be excised.
But but.. Ehem Mancini won the league with Balotelli playing :lol:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: When moruinho was winning 3 trophies with Lingard as a number 10 and Smalling marshaling the defence with Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young bombing down the flanks, they thought it was easy :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
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Sleaky72 wrote:It’s just gets better.
Arsenal draw Benfica in the round of 32.
Will Arteta even Be the coach by then?
Shey when you were playing Rapid Wien, Molde and Dundalk, you guys were twerking with one yansh cheek? :rotf: :rotf:
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
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Hey Chelski fan, Simeone awaits ya.
Might wanna refocus
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danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..
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txj wrote:
danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..

Let's hear it.
What exactly is clever about the way he sets up his team.
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txj wrote:
danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..
My brother we know Danfo hate Arsenal but your continues backing Arteta is making me think you hate Arsenal more than Danfo.
What exactly has the club down to let him down?
Is he not letting fans down?
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I think on wednesday make our club lie that Covid19 out break,Walcott saying best time to play Arsenal and collect 3 points.
Better we used style skip the game against Soton and play in a later date.
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Dortmund sacked their coach who is 5 and in CL knock out yet Arsenal still looking for excuse for Mikel.
Emery was unfairly treated
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kajifu wrote:
txj wrote:
danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..
My brother we know Danfo hate Arsenal but your continues backing Arteta is making me think you hate Arsenal more than Danfo.
What exactly has the club down to let him down?
Is he not letting fans down?
When you hire a manager, esp a young manager, you are obligated to support him fully, or don't hire him!

Its not just that they have him foraging in the 2nd hand player market or refuse to sign a crucial 2nd CM he wanted, but they also saddle him with the Ozil problem!

I'm not even going to talk about Xhaka!!!

That's not how you do it with a young manager. If they wanted this approach, they had the option of Ancelotti, but chose a different path.

Whatever you might think of Roman, he does back his managers; well until he doesn't!!!

Look at how much support Lampard has and compare it with Arteta's...
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danfo driver wrote:
azuka wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Azuka my big Bro.
Come out and defend her guy Sir :sneaky:
Uncle Azuzu knows what to do :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Uncle DD, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. But it's still Arsenal for life. We will definitely overcome.
15 minutes ke? Nnayi, its been 3 months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
15 minutes?, 3 months? 6 months? enjoy it while it last.
Arteta may just be able to put his house in order (HMMMM) and embark on a winning run that will take him into top 4. Yes i believe so and it is not beyond this team.
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kajifu wrote:Dortmund sacked their coach who is 5 and in CL knock out yet Arsenal still looking for excuse for Mikel.
Emery was unfairly treated
Have you looked at the Dortmund squad?
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
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txj wrote:
danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..
- His man management needs serious work
- He is too tactically inflexible
- His player recruitment is questionable. The role he anticipated for Willian can not be done by 32 year old willian.
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amafolas wrote:
txj wrote:
danfo driver wrote:C-L-U-E-L-E-S-S

Dude speaks in a foreign accent and wear tight clothes, and thinks that all it takes to coach! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

If you can get away from the theatrics for a moment...

He is a very clever coach in the way he sets his team up.

But ultimately you have to be able to manage in the environment in which you are placed...

My opinion on him is clear: he is an intelligent guy in the way he interprets the game. Which is not to say he hasn't made mistakes...

But he's been badly let down by a club that is not uniformly dedicated to executing a winning project..
- His man management needs serious work
- He is too tactically inflexible
- His player recruitment is questionable. The role he anticipated for Willian can not be done by 32 year old willian.
why wont he think that of Willian? After all, AW brought him from Everton to come and "manage" when we needed steel in the midfield. That's his own experience
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azuka wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
azuka wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:Azuka my big Bro.
Come out and defend her guy Sir :sneaky:
Uncle Azuzu knows what to do :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Uncle DD, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. But it's still Arsenal for life. We will definitely overcome.
15 minutes ke? Nnayi, its been 3 months! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
15 minutes?, 3 months? 6 months? enjoy it while it last.
Arteta may just be able to put his house in order (HMMMM) and embark on a winning run that will take him into top 4. Yes i believe so and it is not beyond this team.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Chaii!! Nnayi Azuzu. Odiegwu! :woot: :lol:

Do you remember what happened to the Obi of Naze Umuegweshi, Igwe Eberem Kolintus Aniodeze? He was a very stubborn man. The oracle had announced that for 7 days the people of Naze Umuegweshi must remain indoors due to "happenings by oké osimiri (the river)." This was around 1836 when the Europeans had arrived Naze Umuegweshi, so of course the natives had never seen white people before. That scared them and thats why the oracle had spoken and advised everyone to remain indoors until Umu Ekwensu Ocha (the white devil's people) passes.

While everyone was indoors, heeding the advise of the oracle, Igwe Kolintus snuck out of the palace and went to the river where the Europeans were camping. Why? He wanted to peek at the naked white women who were bathing in the river. He wanted to see oyibo toto. As he snuck behind the shed, he was captured and taken into slavery. He remained in slavery until he died in Jamaica in 1859. Buried in a mass grave like a common slave.

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txj wrote:
kajifu wrote:Dortmund sacked their coach who is 5 and in CL knock out yet Arsenal still looking for excuse for Mikel.
Emery was unfairly treated
Have you looked at the Dortmund squad?
Was Emery not sacked because of poor result?How come Arteta not been warn to change things around?He is no Wenger to get free pass.
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txj wrote:
When you hire a manager, esp a young manager, you are obligated to support him fully, or don't hire him!

Its not just that they have him foraging in the 2nd hand player market or refuse to sign a crucial 2nd CM he wanted, but they also saddle him with the Ozil problem!

I'm not even going to talk about Xhaka!!!

That's not how you do it with a young manager. If they wanted this approach, they had the option of Ancelotti, but chose a different path.

Whatever you might think of Roman, he does back his managers; well until he doesn't!!!

Look at how much support Lampard has and compare it with Arteta's...
I get the crux of your point but the problem wrt Arteta is his results don't justify the backing he has received and in consideration of their current league position. When you find yourself in 15th place, a few points from relegation, after one third of the season has been played, lack of financial backing should be no where near your list of excuses. Arteta took over a team that finished 5th (only 1 or 2 points from 4th) and reached the Europa League finals. His strikeforce duo of Aubemayang & Lacazette were one of the most feared in the league. Ozil was putting in work. Even 2nd hand players like Cech were pulling their weight as well.

Fast forward two seasons later, Arteta has added, Tierny, Partey, Pepe, Willian, Luiz, Ceballos, Gabriel, Leno plus academy stand outs like Saka & Nketiah to the squad and somehow has managed to steer the team to its current position of 15th. This has much less to do with lack of backing and everything to with the manager not being able to get his team to perform. Does it make Arteta a bad manager? No. But as of today, he is not getting the job done and this is a results oriented business.

Compare Arteta to the much maligned Ole of ManU - a cat with 25 lives, ironically whom he last beat 1-0 at OT in a masterful coaching performance - and you get a clearler picture of what is required. Each time Ole appears to be put to the sword, he somehow manages to 'get his team to perform'. The players are there to compete against the Burnley's of England. Those are the type of games that will make or break Arteta's coaching career at Arsenal especially given their current league position. He has good enough players but they are not performing anywhere near their capabilities. Then you have his mismanagement of the Ozil situation. If you are going to throwaway your most expensive salary earner, make sure the others can do the job because if his responsibilities aren't competently covered, then the coach looks like a clown for summarily tossing him into the dustbin w/o adequate replacement.

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