AFCON - Parity or Big Teams Slacking
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AFCON - Parity or Big Teams Slacking
While it is fun to true sports fans, the rise to the occasion of teams previously labeled 'minnows'
is quite interesting. With defending champion Algeria and Ghana almost eliminated while the Gambia
and other disrespected teams are claiming they too belong, I wonder what CE football experts have
to say about this.
Personally, I believe there is parity in the game of football. I try to watch a game objectively as this
enables me to judge and enjoy the proceedings. There are still many matches to go in this AFCON,
and it is too early to pick which team is going to lift the trophy but one thing for sure, the so-called
minnows will certainly have a say before the champion is crowned.
is quite interesting. With defending champion Algeria and Ghana almost eliminated while the Gambia
and other disrespected teams are claiming they too belong, I wonder what CE football experts have
to say about this.
Personally, I believe there is parity in the game of football. I try to watch a game objectively as this
enables me to judge and enjoy the proceedings. There are still many matches to go in this AFCON,
and it is too early to pick which team is going to lift the trophy but one thing for sure, the so-called
minnows will certainly have a say before the champion is crowned.
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Tournament footy resulting in parity but the weather might be a factor.
Algeria, Egypt and Tunisia didn’t qualify for the World Cup playoffs until their respective last games. Home and away ties tend to favor the traditional heavyweights.
Algeria, Egypt and Tunisia didn’t qualify for the World Cup playoffs until their respective last games. Home and away ties tend to favor the traditional heavyweights.
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The The better teams have not gotten any better while the minnows have in terms of tactics. Also, the longevity of good teams in Africa seems to be about 2yrs max. Algeria is at the end of its reign, we don't know who's next.
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I think it’s what typically happen in tournaments. A few of the big teams under-perform; a few minnows punch above their weight and one even makes it to the semis.
But ultimately, the heavies dominate.
Even in this tournament, despite Egypt and Algeria disappointing, I’d say the big kids are doing well. Ghana is not really a top aide anymore, but Cameroon, Nigeria and Morocco are really the best teams so far. Ivory Coast also look good and Tunisia have bounced back nicely.
But of course it’s good to see Gambia, Gabon, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Equatorial do well and I hope one of them makes it to the semis at least.
That’s tournament football.
But ultimately, the heavies dominate.
Even in this tournament, despite Egypt and Algeria disappointing, I’d say the big kids are doing well. Ghana is not really a top aide anymore, but Cameroon, Nigeria and Morocco are really the best teams so far. Ivory Coast also look good and Tunisia have bounced back nicely.
But of course it’s good to see Gambia, Gabon, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Equatorial do well and I hope one of them makes it to the semis at least.
That’s tournament football.
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Poor preparations.
Blame the Europeans and their fans for not releasing players early.
Covid isolations are also a bit disruptive to training.
And some of the so called minnows are more resourceful.
Blame the Europeans and their fans for not releasing players early.
Covid isolations are also a bit disruptive to training.
And some of the so called minnows are more resourceful.
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This, the so called big teams still play selfishly in the final 3rd and it was at display with IC and AlgeriaEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:04 am The The better teams have not gotten any better while the minnows have in terms of tactics. Also, the longevity of good teams in Africa seems to be about 2yrs max. Algeria is at the end of its reign, we don't know who's next.
African teams match well Physically and Athletically but usually the big teams tend to drift away when it comes to skill, team play and lack of concentration from the small teams in defense and organisation but teams are more organised and with more exposure to world football, their technical game play has increased
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The so-called minnows have now improved on personnel, tactics and the advent of VAR and internet has made it harder for refs or CAF, FIFA to cheat blatantly.
It's still possible for cheating but not like before where you want the big teams to play to improved viewership etc.
We will see more and more competitive games in Africa henceforth.
Please let's not believe that it's weather, COVID or some strange reasons for the lack of performance of any particular team.
It's still possible for cheating but not like before where you want the big teams to play to improved viewership etc.
We will see more and more competitive games in Africa henceforth.
Please let's not believe that it's weather, COVID or some strange reasons for the lack of performance of any particular team.
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A minnow will always be a minnow.. Sudan, Mauritania, Ethiopia etc all says hello
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Gambia has 5 Serie A players and one Serie B player, plus a few others in the Spanish and Belgian top leagues. They are only minnows by country population.visieC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:03 pm The so-called minnows have now improved on personnel, tactics and the advent of VAR and internet has made it harder for refs or CAF, FIFA to cheat blatantly.
It's still possible for cheating but not like before where you want the big teams to play to improved viewership etc.
We will see more and more competitive games in Africa henceforth.
Please let's not believe that it's weather, COVID or some strange reasons for the lack of performance of any particular team.
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At the end of the day it is still 11 vs 11. Anything can happen on the day. I think it is good and it makes for a more competitive tornament.
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Chief, you skipped all the other possible arguments to pick on one out of the four North African nations performing well.
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Morocco have been the most consistent African nation throughout the WC qualifiers. The others have labored.
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Morocco have been the most consistent African nation throughout the WC qualifiers. The others have labored.
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Suitcases may still switch hands but it's a lot harder for them to make an impact.visieC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:03 pm The so-called minnows have now improved on personnel, tactics and the advent of VAR and internet has made it harder for refs or CAF, FIFA to cheat blatantly.
It's still possible for cheating but not like before where you want the big teams to play to improved viewership etc.
We will see more and more competitive games in Africa henceforth.
Please let's not believe that it's weather, COVID or some strange reasons for the lack of performance of any particular team.
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...But some herein think of football in terms of dynasty. Which is why the English keep
reminding everyone about 1966. Time, talent, and tactics have caught up with many of
the great teams of the past, with new teams like the USA, Croatia, and Belgium posing
a threat to the old guard.
Your statement that,
At the end of the day it is still 11 vs 11
is what makes things quite interesting, as it is more about how federations develop and
nourish their players into 'a team' that matters. Some countries have talent but lack
a serious developmental program - e.g. Nigeria and in fact most African countries. Some
lack talent but have a solid team, structured around team discipline and focused play -
Take Russia, Japan and Korea, to name a few.
In summary, I do believe that the African team that can muster the team discipline and
focused play of the Germans will dominate on the continent, and be a true contender at
the World cup.
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The other consideration is that tournament football has a tempo.
You don't want to peak early, but you cannot peak late. Even if these teams like Senegal are somehow playing below potential, it may not even matter. They are running out of time to build momentum. Even if lets say a Senegal or Algeria were somehow the best sides (I don't believe they are, but let us say for argument's sake), can they peak in time?
Even if we look at France and Belgium as cases in point (2018 World Cup), France did not really falter in the early stages of the mundial as some think. They may have struggled more than pundits expected, against relatively low opposition, and scored fewer goals before the R16, but they still gained good results, and those results were improved upon.
You can stumble a little bit, even Nigeria in 2013 did not win every game in the group stage, but you cannot stumble too much. In fact, we can also look to Croatia. If you start scraping results, that also takes its toll.
Nigeria has a lot of advantages going forward. In that we create a lot of opportunities per game, and we have more to build on. The likelihood of Nigeria going to penalties or extra time is statistically lower.
If the other big dogs really want to get in our way, then they have no time to spare.
You don't want to peak early, but you cannot peak late. Even if these teams like Senegal are somehow playing below potential, it may not even matter. They are running out of time to build momentum. Even if lets say a Senegal or Algeria were somehow the best sides (I don't believe they are, but let us say for argument's sake), can they peak in time?
Even if we look at France and Belgium as cases in point (2018 World Cup), France did not really falter in the early stages of the mundial as some think. They may have struggled more than pundits expected, against relatively low opposition, and scored fewer goals before the R16, but they still gained good results, and those results were improved upon.
You can stumble a little bit, even Nigeria in 2013 did not win every game in the group stage, but you cannot stumble too much. In fact, we can also look to Croatia. If you start scraping results, that also takes its toll.
Nigeria has a lot of advantages going forward. In that we create a lot of opportunities per game, and we have more to build on. The likelihood of Nigeria going to penalties or extra time is statistically lower.
If the other big dogs really want to get in our way, then they have no time to spare.
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I dont think Big teams are slacking or underestimating anyone.
I do think the lack of adequate preparation time has helped smaller nations that have been able to keep their players in camp for a much longer period, in a much better position to compete with the bigger nations.
I also think there is natural attrition that takes place in some teams that leads to declines. This has been the case for Algeria and Senegal.
I do think the lack of adequate preparation time has helped smaller nations that have been able to keep their players in camp for a much longer period, in a much better position to compete with the bigger nations.
I also think there is natural attrition that takes place in some teams that leads to declines. This has been the case for Algeria and Senegal.
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Lolly,Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:45 pmGambia has 5 Serie A players and one Serie B player, plus a few others in the Spanish and Belgian top leagues. They are only minnows by country population.visieC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:03 pm The so-called minnows have now improved on personnel, tactics and the advent of VAR and internet has made it harder for refs or CAF, FIFA to cheat blatantly.
It's still possible for cheating but not like before where you want the big teams to play to improved viewership etc.
We will see more and more competitive games in Africa henceforth.
Please let's not believe that it's weather, COVID or some strange reasons for the lack of performance of any particular team.
How many Serie A or Big 5 league players wey Malawi get? Abeg, tell us?
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Hmm, the game between Morocco and Gabon I watched yesterday, Morocco seemed more like the minnow if there is such thing (minnow) in this AFCON tournament
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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Exactly!
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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... and speaking of Algeria, I am also surprised they are not faring well in this AFCON. They (Algeria) better be careful, else they will be heading home like Ghana.charlie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:23 pm I dont think Big teams are slacking or underestimating anyone.
I do think the lack of adequate preparation time has helped smaller nations that have been able to keep their players in camp for a much longer period, in a much better position to compete with the bigger nations.
I also think there is natural attrition that takes place in some teams that leads to declines. This has been the case for Algeria and Senegal.
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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If they fail to beat Ivory Coast, they are heading home.Odas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am... and speaking of Algeria, I am also surprised they are not faring well in this AFCON. They (Algeria) better be careful, else they will be heading home like Ghana.charlie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:23 pm I dont think Big teams are slacking or underestimating anyone.
I do think the lack of adequate preparation time has helped smaller nations that have been able to keep their players in camp for a much longer period, in a much better position to compete with the bigger nations.
I also think there is natural attrition that takes place in some teams that leads to declines. This has been the case for Algeria and Senegal.
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Speaking from their past two games I saw, I think Algeria is in HOT soup because I don't see them beating Ivory coast. However, any thing can happen, so let's wait and see.Damunk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:26 amIf they fail to beat Ivory Coast, they are heading home.Odas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am... and speaking of Algeria, I am also surprised they are not faring well in this AFCON. They (Algeria) better be careful, else they will be heading home like Ghana.charlie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:23 pm I dont think Big teams are slacking or underestimating anyone.
I do think the lack of adequate preparation time has helped smaller nations that have been able to keep their players in camp for a much longer period, in a much better position to compete with the bigger nations.
I also think there is natural attrition that takes place in some teams that leads to declines. This has been the case for Algeria and Senegal.
Simple.
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.