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Playing football the pre-influx way today would be tantamount to suicide. Football has moved on considerably. The level of athleticism endorsed by those with lesser quality is simply beyond the level of interest of our players. Can anyone honestly say any African side would’ve expended the effort of Canada yesterday? The game has moved on from African football, both it’s old and new variant.GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 pmIt looked like that because they had no idea how to do anything else. It looked like the Senegal game. The Ghana game will look like that, too. Heck, it looked like all the WC games we have watched together on CE over the last 20 years. Before the influx of African players to Europe and the rest of the world.
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Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
Canada lost oga.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:13 pmPlaying football the pre-influx way today would be tantamount to suicide. Football has moved on considerably. The level of athleticism endorsed by those with lesser quality is simply beyond the level of interest of our players. Can anyone honestly say any African side would’ve expended the effort of Canada yesterday? The game has moved on from African football, both it’s old and new variant.GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 pmIt looked like that because they had no idea how to do anything else. It looked like the Senegal game. The Ghana game will look like that, too. Heck, it looked like all the WC games we have watched together on CE over the last 20 years. Before the influx of African players to Europe and the rest of the world.
Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
I think Choupo-Moting will flourish more as a false 9 behind Aboubakar, he has that creativity in him and can pick a good pass every now and again...Rigobert Song should find a way of playing both players together.
Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
No we do not. Not at the level of others.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:12 pmWe have all three in abundance.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:06 pm @BP, Nigeria’s absence affords Nigerians the opportunity to lambast the shambles of the continent’s representatives, all the while proclaiming, with zip zero substantiation, that Nigeria would’ve done better. Position of utmost privilege.
This tournament will highlight the absolute necessity of athleticism, fitness and conditioning. Sentiment and subjectivity aside, these are qualities that Nigeria doesn’t boast in abundance. Even the Cameroon side many had suggested would be hard body, tub thumpers, were easily bypassed by the Swiss and in the dying embers, relied on more last ditches than a bodies on the line Sam Allardyce side.
No chance.
What we lack is a federation with a clue.
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I said it that Nigeria has the most talented individual players in Africa, we are just dis-organized in everything we do! let this be a lesson, African football has not improved, the likes of Tunisia and Morocco look organized in comparison, the west African sides do not have a chance, just hope Ghana can redeem Africa pride against Portugal later!
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As have Senegal, Cameroon, hopefully not Ghana. The question was, did any show the same level of commitment towards 3 points, even with defeat drawing ever nearer? The level of intensity needed to compete doesn’t exist within such parts of the continent. It’s simply not their way and yet a prerequisite for progression. If brainless lethargy continues to be the input, the output will remain much the same.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:14 pmCanada lost oga.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:13 pmPlaying football the pre-influx way today would be tantamount to suicide. Football has moved on considerably. The level of athleticism endorsed by those with lesser quality is simply beyond the level of interest of our players. Can anyone honestly say any African side would’ve expended the effort of Canada yesterday? The game has moved on from African football, both it’s old and new variant.GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 pmIt looked like that because they had no idea how to do anything else. It looked like the Senegal game. The Ghana game will look like that, too. Heck, it looked like all the WC games we have watched together on CE over the last 20 years. Before the influx of African players to Europe and the rest of the world.
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When has Cameroon ever been good at the world cup? Mchewwww
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I don't even understand. What level of athletism, fitness, and conditioning do Embolo, Xhaka and Shaquiri have over Osimhen, Iwobi, and Chukwueze? If anything I would say we are more athletic.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:17 pmNo we do not. Not at the level of others.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:12 pmWe have all three in abundance.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:06 pm @BP, Nigeria’s absence affords Nigerians the opportunity to lambast the shambles of the continent’s representatives, all the while proclaiming, with zip zero substantiation, that Nigeria would’ve done better. Position of utmost privilege.
This tournament will highlight the absolute necessity of athleticism, fitness and conditioning. Sentiment and subjectivity aside, these are qualities that Nigeria doesn’t boast in abundance. Even the Cameroon side many had suggested would be hard body, tub thumpers, were easily bypassed by the Swiss and in the dying embers, relied on more last ditches than a bodies on the line Sam Allardyce side.
No chance.
What we lack is a federation with a clue.
That is never our problem.
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Did you watch Senegal? They outran the Netherlands for the most part. The problems they had were in the little details and Mendy the Basket.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:20 pmAs have Senegal, Cameroon, hopefully not Ghana. The question was, did any show the same level of commitment towards 3 points, even with defeat drawing ever nearer? The level of intensity needed to compete doesn’t exist within such parts of the continent. It’s simply not their way and yet a prerequisite for progression. If brainless lethargy continues to be the input, the output will remain much the same.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:14 pmCanada lost oga.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:13 pmPlaying football the pre-influx way today would be tantamount to suicide. Football has moved on considerably. The level of athleticism endorsed by those with lesser quality is simply beyond the level of interest of our players. Can anyone honestly say any African side would’ve expended the effort of Canada yesterday? The game has moved on from African football, both it’s old and new variant.GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 pmIt looked like that because they had no idea how to do anything else. It looked like the Senegal game. The Ghana game will look like that, too. Heck, it looked like all the WC games we have watched together on CE over the last 20 years. Before the influx of African players to Europe and the rest of the world.
Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
This was a very disappointing performance. Song literally gave the advantage to Switzerland by taking off two of his most lively and agressive players.
That game in my opinion needed another attacking midfielder because Cameroon was putting the center defenders under pressure especially the #4.
There was a big gap behind Choupo so another attacking midfielder could have used that space especially with how high Onana was playing (pushing the defense up and creating a “numerical” advantage on the field). That was the gap we could have exploited especially when they went a goal down.
Also, Mbuemo was the best thing they had that could play wide off the 18 with a few ocassional incuts.
The defenders had to account for him so they had to spread out thus giving Choupo space.
You take him off and all you get are errant crosses going from left to right from the wing backs. Crazy that even the basics eluded him.
I have no idea what Aboubakar offered. I saw at least two terrible errant passes from him plus the near penalty he almost gave up. He used to be fast and commanding in the air but he lost a step, is playing in a lower tier league and has been off for a while (he was training with a Cameroon first division team to stay fit)
That game in my opinion needed another attacking midfielder because Cameroon was putting the center defenders under pressure especially the #4.
There was a big gap behind Choupo so another attacking midfielder could have used that space especially with how high Onana was playing (pushing the defense up and creating a “numerical” advantage on the field). That was the gap we could have exploited especially when they went a goal down.
Also, Mbuemo was the best thing they had that could play wide off the 18 with a few ocassional incuts.
The defenders had to account for him so they had to spread out thus giving Choupo space.
You take him off and all you get are errant crosses going from left to right from the wing backs. Crazy that even the basics eluded him.
I have no idea what Aboubakar offered. I saw at least two terrible errant passes from him plus the near penalty he almost gave up. He used to be fast and commanding in the air but he lost a step, is playing in a lower tier league and has been off for a while (he was training with a Cameroon first division team to stay fit)
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Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
nothing to do with athletism, more to do with common sense! and application
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we are just here to make up the numbers as usual, well that is world cup for you, a large spectacle! let the serious teams proceed
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I keep saying Cameroon is garbage. It's not hate it's facts. Nigeria by far have better players than other African countries. It's corruption and incompetent that is holding us back.marko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:19 pm I said it that Nigeria has the most talented individual players in Africa, we are just dis-organized in everything we do! let this be a lesson, African football has not improved, the likes of Tunisia and Morocco look organized in comparison, the west African sides do not have a chance, just hope Ghana can redeem Africa pride against Portugal later!
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Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
Watched only the first half and it’s clear that it was a case of
failing to take their chances that doomed Cameroon.
This so called best Swiss team ever is laughable.
CAM had two gifts handed to them and they passed on them and that is the diff in the game.
They take those two chances early in the game and they could play off the counter and pick off Switzerland at will .
failing to take their chances that doomed Cameroon.
This so called best Swiss team ever is laughable.
CAM had two gifts handed to them and they passed on them and that is the diff in the game.
They take those two chances early in the game and they could play off the counter and pick off Switzerland at will .
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That’s the Old Aboubakar. Mbuemo, Choupo and to some extent Ekambi (who has been struggling this year) need to play more. Aboubakar should stay a sub but not at the expense of the above. He needs to find a more direct midfielder and ditch the sideways passes from the final third.
There is a reason the team was better offensively with the three.
He has arguable one of the best in the world when you talk about keepers that are good with their feet. He needs to have Onana also play through the wing backs not just find the forwards. That way, Fai and Ntoulou can not only make crosses but play diagonal through balls to the attacking mids in quick transitions while the forwards hold the defense.
If they were more clinical they would have won the game in the first half.
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Re: [WC 2022] Switzerland vs Cameroon(1-0)
Cameroon has the upper hand in the 1st half, failed to take their chances. 2nd half, Swiss scored first and Cameroon lost shape and focus and from then on it was comfortable for the Swiss.
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This Swiss team knocked out France in the Euros!! rememberSleaky72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:32 pm Watched only the first half and it’s clear that it was a case of
failing to take their chances that doomed Cameroon.
This so called best Swiss team ever is laughable.
CAM had two gifts handed to them and they passed on them and that is the diff in the game.
They take those two chances early in the game and they could play off the counter and pick off Switzerland at will .
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airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:14 pmCanada lost oga.Coach wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:13 pmPlaying football the pre-influx way today would be tantamount to suicide. Football has moved on considerably. The level of athleticism endorsed by those with lesser quality is simply beyond the level of interest of our players. Can anyone honestly say any African side would’ve expended the effort of Canada yesterday? The game has moved on from African football, both it’s old and new variant.GREENWHITEGREEN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:09 pmIt looked like that because they had no idea how to do anything else. It looked like the Senegal game. The Ghana game will look like that, too. Heck, it looked like all the WC games we have watched together on CE over the last 20 years. Before the influx of African players to Europe and the rest of the world.
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Are we talking about the same Nigerian team that recently played against Portugal?bret- hart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:28 pmI keep saying Cameroon is garbage. It's not hate it's facts. Nigeria by far have better players than other African countries. It's corruption and incompetent that is holding us back.marko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:19 pm I said it that Nigeria has the most talented individual players in Africa, we are just dis-organized in everything we do! let this be a lesson, African football has not improved, the likes of Tunisia and Morocco look organized in comparison, the west African sides do not have a chance, just hope Ghana can redeem Africa pride against Portugal later!
I'm honestly struggling to see where these so called better players are.
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Guys, this result was expected! When was the last time Cameroon won a game at the World cup again?
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20 year ago vis Saudi Arabia and it was by 1 goalUndertaker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:38 pm Guys, this result was expected! When was the last time Cameroon won a game at the World cup again?
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