[WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
this is a very unintelligent comment, how is it possible for the fans to ruin a player...smhCellular wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:01 pmLukaku has not recovered from the psychological trauma of returning to Chelski.green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm Lukaku crying like a baby after wasting 4 or more sitters. Martinez, gets the title of fraud of the century. Top 4!9 manager. Congratulations to Morocco and Croatia for a well deserved qualification
You guys ruined the guy for good.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
Hmmm lukaku might not be your cup of tea but he is a very good striker. He was bad at Man U like 90% of their players at that time and he stunk up at Chelsea like most Chelsea strikers.
He is Belgium's all-time top striker for a reason
He is Belgium's all-time top striker for a reason
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
Actually Fox did a comedy skit on underperforming managers last night with Ocho Cinco as the therapist and Maurice Edu playing the mangers. They roasted Martinez, Southgate, the Canada manager and even USA’s Berhalter wasn’t spareddanfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:04 pm So cute to see the media on Fox trying to support their friend, Martinez. hahahahahaha 1mbeciles! Because he sits with them on the panel from time to time, they dont want to say the truth about him
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txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:08 pm
Not your damn conspiracies again!!!!
I chose my words carefully: occasional rigging, definitely some bias...which I impact a LOT when the margins are so thin.
Jesus, you're too smart to believe otherwise.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
Congrats to the Moroccans
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
danfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:03 pmIts Doku. And perhaps if he had been in form @ Rennes, rather than zero goals and assists, perhaps he would have started? You guys need to actually watch football, rather than using 5 minutes to determine how you would select a team.
The player who should be starting and the team built around him is Trossard.
Absolutely! Most here do not watch enough football...
Martinez has ridden his FA cup victory for more than a decade now...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 0 MOROCCO 1 (Ziyech)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
Cellular wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:13 pmYou could do to watch the documentary FIFA Uncovered on NETFLIX... you won't be so quick to call people conspiracy theorists.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:08 pm
Not your damn conspiracies again!!!!
They pretty much confirmed some of the shenanigans folks have been suspecting for years.
I don't get him on this either. The evidence as you note is stark.
Bias for sure plays a role.
But outright rigging has occurred.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
i read your post just fine thanks, and i will do that, after the fact things often become clearer as you have demonstrated, thanks again young man.danfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:09 pmIf I was the coach, he wouldnt be on the team! FACT!! the reason Belgium is out, is due to their favoritism. The weak manager picking players he loves, rather than those who deserve to play. Players liek Vertonghen, Toby, Witsel, Muenier and Mertens... kaii! This is what happens in African countries. A coach selecting players who have failed to have any impact at club level.King Futcha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:05 pmthank you senor after the fact. by your logic he shouldn't have even been on the team.danfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:03 pmIts Doku. And perhaps if he had been in form @ Rennes, rather than zero goals and assists, perhaps he would have started? You guys need to actually watch football, rather than using 5 minutes to determine how you would select a team.
The player who should be starting and the team built around him is Trossard.
You really should have taken your time to read my comment. I said, "the player who should be starting and the team built around him."Trossard did start, for your info, you may have missed it while correcting people and laughing at misfortune.
I think you may want to go back and review their matches and you will get the answer.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
cheii!! I missgreen4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:16 pmActually Fox did a comedy skit on underperforming managers last night with Ocho Cinco as the therapist and Maurice Edu playing the mangers. They roasted Martinez, Southgate, the Canada manager and even USA’s Berhalter wasn’t spareddanfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:04 pm So cute to see the media on Fox trying to support their friend, Martinez. hahahahahaha 1mbeciles! Because he sits with them on the panel from time to time, they dont want to say the truth about him
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:08 pmLol. Na lie to be told to folks wey never see this version of Lukaku. At least he can’t blame his teammates for not giving him service or not playing to his strengths. So it must be that he’s not fit because it’s never due to Lukaku simply not getting it done at the biggest stage in football. Too bad he can’t run from Belgium to go play for another country so he can look better. We have read this book multiple times over so no surprises here.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:01 pmLukaku clearly wasn't fit.green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm Lukaku crying like a baby after wasting 4 or more sitters. Martinez, gets the title of fraud of the century. Top 4!9 manager. Congratulations to Morocco and Croatia for a well deserved qualification
In all fairness he was not fit. This is transferred aggro from Chelski...
But on Martinez, never has any manager ridden the coattails of a solitary achievement for so long...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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He’s a good striker who needs needs the team to be built around him and work for him. Unfortunately no top team in football operates that way for their striker today.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
Lord Willing, when I am retired like you, I will be sure to spend my Saturdays watching Rennes matches. for now I can't do that but thank you as well, I believe they refer to you as well as after the fact, I now see why.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:17 pmdanfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:03 pmIts Doku. And perhaps if he had been in form @ Rennes, rather than zero goals and assists, perhaps he would have started? You guys need to actually watch football, rather than using 5 minutes to determine how you would select a team.
The player who should be starting and the team built around him is Trossard.
Absolutely! Most here do not watch enough football...
Martinez has ridden his FA cup victory for more than a decade now...
Saints baby we did it
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
“I am in my technical zone and I can’t hear the boos,” Domenech said.
Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 0 MOROCCO 1 (Ziyech)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:13 pmYou could do to watch the documentary FIFA Uncovered on NETFLIX... you won't be so quick to call people conspiracy theorists.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:08 pm
Not your damn conspiracies again!!!!
They pretty much confirmed some of the shenanigans folks have been suspecting for years.
FIFA being corrupt is one thing. And it is WELL KNOWN.
But fixing results as mate, you and your merry band of conspiratorialists suggest is a different matter
We're being general. Nobody is saying they get together and say: ensure 3 goals. But I definitely believe they make indirect suggestions how to ensure the bigger teams aren't impeded and how it is good for everyone if the best teams advance.
And yes, I believe individual refs are approached by various people to apply some bias. So many games over the years have been significantly impacted by outright favoritism. Especially egregious in the past. I have some examples.
And being a fan of Croatia, I have seen us shafted time and again.
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri) FT Morocco advance in 1st place to R16!
I saw Lukaku leaning on Thierry Henry for a good 2 minutes and weeping his eyes out. The look on Henry's face said: Get off me mothaforker! You will cost me my job and reputation with all your useless misses! Get away from me!
Wha choo looking at?!
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Re: [WC 2022] CANADA 1 (OG) MOROCCO 2 (Ziyech, Nesyri)/CROATIA 0 BELGIUM 0
Fitness had nothing to do with missing at least 3 open netters. It’s all about him. Either he’s shining or his teammates are to blame for poor results. It’s a big reason why he hasn’t grown relative to his capability and flatters to deceive. The best players in the business make their teammates better. Lukaku’s mission is to ensure Lukaku is smelling like roses. This partly explains why he’s failed in bigger pressure environments with all due respect to Inter Milan & Serie A.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:19 pmgreen4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:08 pmLol. Na lie to be told to folks wey never see this version of Lukaku. At least he can’t blame his teammates for not giving him service or not playing to his strengths. So it must be that he’s not fit because it’s never due to Lukaku simply not getting it done at the biggest stage in football. Too bad he can’t run from Belgium to go play for another country so he can look better. We have read this book multiple times over so no surprises here.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:01 pmLukaku clearly wasn't fit.green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm Lukaku crying like a baby after wasting 4 or more sitters. Martinez, gets the title of fraud of the century. Top 4!9 manager. Congratulations to Morocco and Croatia for a well deserved qualification
In all fairness he was not fit. This is transferred aggro from Chelski...
But on Martinez, never has any manager ridden the coattails of a solitary achievement for so long...
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green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:29 pmFitness had nothing to do with missing at least 3 open netters. It’s all about him. Either he’s shining or his teammates are to blame for poor results. It’s a big reason why he hasn’t grown relative to his capability and flatters to deceive. The best players in the business make their teammates better. Lukaku’s mission is to ensure Lukaku is smelling like roses. This partly explains why he’s failed in bigger pressure environments with all due respect to Inter Milan & Serie A.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:19 pmgreen4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:08 pmLol. Na lie to be told to folks wey never see this version of Lukaku. At least he can’t blame his teammates for not giving him service or not playing to his strengths. So it must be that he’s not fit because it’s never due to Lukaku simply not getting it done at the biggest stage in football. Too bad he can’t run from Belgium to go play for another country so he can look better. We have read this book multiple times over so no surprises here.airwolex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:01 pmLukaku clearly wasn't fit.green4life wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm Lukaku crying like a baby after wasting 4 or more sitters. Martinez, gets the title of fraud of the century. Top 4!9 manager. Congratulations to Morocco and Croatia for a well deserved qualification
In all fairness he was not fit. This is transferred aggro from Chelski...
But on Martinez, never has any manager ridden the coattails of a solitary achievement for so long...
Fitness has VERYTHING to do with it.
There's a lot more to football than the EPL
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:22 pmtxj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:13 pmYou could do to watch the documentary FIFA Uncovered on NETFLIX... you won't be so quick to call people conspiracy theorists.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:08 pm
Not your damn conspiracies again!!!!
They pretty much confirmed some of the shenanigans folks have been suspecting for years.
FIFA being corrupt is one thing. And it is WELL KNOWN.
But fixing results as mate, you and your merry band of conspiratorialists suggest is a different matter
We're being general. Nobody is saying they get together and say: ensure 3 goals. But I definitely believe they make indirect suggestions how to ensure the bigger teams aren't impeded and how it is good for everyone if the best teams advance.
And yes, I believe individual refs are approached by various people to apply some bias. So many games over the years have been significantly impacted by outright favoritism. Especially egregious in the past. I have some examples.
And being a fan of Croatia, I have seen us shafted time and again.
Only in the over active imagination of conspiracy theorists
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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King Futcha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:20 pmLord Willing, when I am retired like you, I will be sure to spend my Saturdays watching Rennes matches. for now I can't do that but thank you as well, I believe they refer to you as well as after the fact, I now see why.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:17 pmdanfo driver wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:03 pmIts Doku. And perhaps if he had been in form @ Rennes, rather than zero goals and assists, perhaps he would have started? You guys need to actually watch football, rather than using 5 minutes to determine how you would select a team.
The player who should be starting and the team built around him is Trossard.
Absolutely! Most here do not watch enough football...
Martinez has ridden his FA cup victory for more than a decade now...
...well until then, stay in the corner, listen and learn...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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Okay on the game itself. Dalic did not make the right subs. It almost cost us.
Livaja is too slow. Petkovic who subbed for him is also too slow. Should have started Orsic, who is fast and blazed forward on that last goal to pass to a young Majer for 4h goal against Canada. Majer is young and fleet footed and should start over a clearly aging Perisic, who is a liability without his famous speed.
Dalic is a better coach than me. In most cases, coaches get 95% of it right. But we as fans can see if the 5% is deficient. It is in the case of Croatia in this game. We were saved by dogged defending and some luck...and luck went the other way, as we also missed some pretty good chances.
Belgium finally played a better lineup. Too little too late. Like I said, they got the benefit of bias vs Canada and us today on penalty calls. Margins.
The best teams advanced in this group. Morocco played extremely intelligent and is skilled, composed, enduring, and united. A force. This for me has turned out to be the toughest group.
For Croatia, we're more dangerous now than in the 1st round. It was important to get out of this tough group. We need to tweak the lineup to compensate for not have good forwards. Again...start Majer over Perisic and Orisc over Livaja, which is the best team we can field.
One more maybe: start Sutalo or Erlic over a slow Lovren. But see, coach Dalic dug a hole here. Can you start a younger, faster, more talented Erlic or Sutalo when they haven't yet played over Lovren who has 3 games in?
Coaching is not easy.
Livaja is too slow. Petkovic who subbed for him is also too slow. Should have started Orsic, who is fast and blazed forward on that last goal to pass to a young Majer for 4h goal against Canada. Majer is young and fleet footed and should start over a clearly aging Perisic, who is a liability without his famous speed.
Dalic is a better coach than me. In most cases, coaches get 95% of it right. But we as fans can see if the 5% is deficient. It is in the case of Croatia in this game. We were saved by dogged defending and some luck...and luck went the other way, as we also missed some pretty good chances.
Belgium finally played a better lineup. Too little too late. Like I said, they got the benefit of bias vs Canada and us today on penalty calls. Margins.
The best teams advanced in this group. Morocco played extremely intelligent and is skilled, composed, enduring, and united. A force. This for me has turned out to be the toughest group.
For Croatia, we're more dangerous now than in the 1st round. It was important to get out of this tough group. We need to tweak the lineup to compensate for not have good forwards. Again...start Majer over Perisic and Orisc over Livaja, which is the best team we can field.
One more maybe: start Sutalo or Erlic over a slow Lovren. But see, coach Dalic dug a hole here. Can you start a younger, faster, more talented Erlic or Sutalo when they haven't yet played over Lovren who has 3 games in?
Coaching is not easy.
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txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:33 pmmate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:22 pmtxj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:13 pmYou could do to watch the documentary FIFA Uncovered on NETFLIX... you won't be so quick to call people conspiracy theorists.txj wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:08 pm
Not your damn conspiracies again!!!!
They pretty much confirmed some of the shenanigans folks have been suspecting for years.
FIFA being corrupt is one thing. And it is WELL KNOWN.
But fixing results as mate, you and your merry band of conspiratorialists suggest is a different matter
We're being general. Nobody is saying they get together and say: ensure 3 goals. But I definitely believe they make indirect suggestions how to ensure the bigger teams aren't impeded and how it is good for everyone if the best teams advance.
And yes, I believe individual refs are approached by various people to apply some bias. So many games over the years have been significantly impacted by outright favoritism. Especially egregious in the past. I have some examples.
And being a fan of Croatia, I have seen us shafted time and again.
Only in the over active imagination of conspiracy theorists
Watch the 1996 Euro Cup game between Germany and Croatia. That was another crystal clear example of bias for Germany over a new Croatian nation without pedigree.
Stimac got red carded. A German absolutely hacks Suker and doesn't get carded. It was glaring. We take the lead.
Yet a German defender lose the ball to a Croatian defender, then pushes him down in anger, ref lets it play on.
I've got so many of these compiled in critical moments. They overall show bias...and definitely impacts the results, sometimes decisively.
Hey, how about South Korea beating Italy and Spain in 2002. You really believe that ref didn't cook things here? Don't get me wrong, as Spain and Italy also notoriously got calls at various times in their favor.
It used to be more egregious. It is more subtle now, but as I said, in many ways easier to conceal in tight margins.
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