Morocco Appreciation
Moderators: Moderator Team, phpBB2 - Administrators
Re: Morocco Appreciation
But how many of these players actually started their carreer in Morocco? You should give some credits to the european countries where most of these players learned the game too.
That said that was a fantastic performance by Morrocco and I hope that at the next world cup another africn country reaches that level of the competition.
- cchinukw
- Eaglet
- Posts: 37998
- Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:27 pm
- Location: Displaced Naija. Don't bother
Re: Morocco Appreciation
I saw an Oliseh video on one WhatsApp group where Oliseh challenged the notion that African teams going to the WC were not mature enough to win the trophy.
I believe that video was 4 years ago.
MAGA - Make Arsenal Great Again.
Mind that father made collection of Scifi and fantasy stories
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mind-That-Father-Made/dp/1907652051
Mind that father made collection of Scifi and fantasy stories
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mind-That-Father-Made/dp/1907652051
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Conveniently overlooking the impetus of a nation’s support. Sports psychology is deep in literature with regard to the “12th man”. Morocco’s support stretched beyond the borders of countries and continents. One need only look at Iran, Saudi Arabia and Tunisia’s response to defeating Western. Those matches meant much more than 3 points or progression.
The much maligned Qatar World Cup, with much of the disdain towards it stemming from ethnocentrism and Islamophobia, desperately needed an Arabian Knight to emerge from the crowd and battle valiantly against the green eyed ghouls and goblins of Western ideology. The support Morocco received was as partisan as that of a home crowd. No African side representing Africa alone, will ever get the same. The South African World Cup is testament to that fact.
Sans the 12th man, repeating this achievement will be as Sisyphean a task as Sisyphus and the boulder.
The much maligned Qatar World Cup, with much of the disdain towards it stemming from ethnocentrism and Islamophobia, desperately needed an Arabian Knight to emerge from the crowd and battle valiantly against the green eyed ghouls and goblins of Western ideology. The support Morocco received was as partisan as that of a home crowd. No African side representing Africa alone, will ever get the same. The South African World Cup is testament to that fact.
Sans the 12th man, repeating this achievement will be as Sisyphean a task as Sisyphus and the boulder.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
And of course, credit given where credit due. To consider Morocco’s achievement easily replicated by other African sides is to dismiss the comparative advantages held. Ziyech’s submission of his entire World Cup salary to charity says a lot. The stereotypical attributes were not as omnipresent in the Atlas lions den.
Well done to Morocco.
Well done to Morocco.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Care to explain what happened to Tunisia?greg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:43 am And they were not even African champs. This goes to show that teams from a region that hosts the World Cup tend to perform higher than expected. Same thing happened to Korea when they hosted. I am confident that other well supported Arab teams like Algeria and Egypt will have gone very far too if they made it.
“We do not have natural disasters in Nigeria, the only disaster we have is human beings,”
Re: Morocco Appreciation
True, as long as France also gives credit to Africa for unearthing a sizeable portion of their players...believe me I get your point, not trying to be silly
For my sceptical Nigerian Friends : Pessimism is great because you are either always right or pleasantly surprised.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
akamoke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:18 pmTrue, as long as France also gives credit to Africa for unearthing a sizeable portion of their players...believe me I get your point, not trying to be silly
I honestly get a nice smile from this kind of discussion.
It's complicated. Africa? Europe? Arabia? Morocco? Human?
For me at least, it ultimately is that specific team, understanding identity is stratified within an enveloping human identity.
Morocco is simply a good team and I appreciate that. I think it's great that they get so much pride from this...as well as anybody else for whatever reason.
Finally...I always look to learn from any successful team. Morocco, France, Argentina? How can their success help my team?
Pax Americana...Wither Now?
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Morocco, like Croatia, lacked a Mandžukić upfront.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:23 pmakamoke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:18 pmTrue, as long as France also gives credit to Africa for unearthing a sizeable portion of their players...believe me I get your point, not trying to be silly
I honestly get a nice smile from this kind of discussion.
It's complicated. Africa? Europe? Arabia? Morocco? Human?
For me at least, it ultimately is that specific team, understanding identity is stratified within an enveloping human identity.
Morocco is simply a good team and I appreciate that. I think it's great that they get so much pride from this...as well as anybody else for whatever reason.
Finally...I always look to learn from any successful team. Morocco, France, Argentina? How can their success help my team?
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.”- Sun Tzu
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Yes, big European born and trained contingent on the team. But a significant number of key players are products of the Moroccan football system.camex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:55 amBut how many of these players actually started their carreer in Morocco? You should give some credits to the european countries where most of these players learned the game too.
That said that was a fantastic performance by Morrocco and I hope that at the next world cup another africn country reaches that level of the competition.
-En-Nesyri (striker who scored against Portugal) is Moroccan born and product of their top football academy
-Ounahi Moroccan born and product of the same Mohamed IV football academy
-Aguerd (West Ham CB) product of Mohamed IV football academy
-Bouno the keeper product of Wydad youth academy
-Attiat-Allah (played against France and started against Portugal) left back who currently plays domestically with Wydad
-Dari (starting CB yesterday) product of Wydad youth academy
-El-Yamiq ( starting CB against Portugal and France) product of Khouribga youth academy in Morocco
The real story is that they successfully merged the two talent sources.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Re: Morocco Appreciation
folem wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:00 amJapan yet to reach WC quarter-finals or semi-finals.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Kabalega wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:51 pmMorocco, like Croatia, lacked a Mandžukić upfront.mate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:23 pmakamoke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:18 pmTrue, as long as France also gives credit to Africa for unearthing a sizeable portion of their players...believe me I get your point, not trying to be silly
I honestly get a nice smile from this kind of discussion.
It's complicated. Africa? Europe? Arabia? Morocco? Human?
For me at least, it ultimately is that specific team, understanding identity is stratified within an enveloping human identity.
Morocco is simply a good team and I appreciate that. I think it's great that they get so much pride from this...as well as anybody else for whatever reason.
Finally...I always look to learn from any successful team. Morocco, France, Argentina? How can their success help my team?
I've been conceding this point all WC.
Morocco and Croatia both got lucky to some degree, but still have good quality.
We're not the big boys...yet.
Pax Americana...Wither Now?
Re: Morocco Appreciation
Congrats to Azzadine Ounahi who has joined Marseille. Not bad for a player who was playing 3rd division football less than 2 years ago.
- Undertaker
- Eaglet
- Posts: 15892
- Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2003 3:39 am
- Location: Houston, Texas.
Re: Morocco Appreciation
€8m fee plus €2m add ons?????????? peanuts!
I SEE DEAD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Morocco Appreciation
West Ham have got themselves a proper player in Nayef Aguerd. It is a big shame that he was injured for Morocco’s last 2 games of the World Cup. His replacement El Yamiq made the mistake that led to Antoine Griezmann’s opening goal in the semi-final for France.
Second best tackle of the season after Aaron Wan-Bissaka on Zaha:
Second best tackle of the season after Aaron Wan-Bissaka on Zaha: