THE SO CALLED "FAKE RONALDO" JUST SCORED A HAT TRICK AGAIN..
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you are telling me that Ronaldo has been playing poor for 7 years at Real Madrid, i disagree with that, otherwise noone would even count him as one of the 2 great players in current football. That should count as your own biased opinion that is not fact.cic old boy wrote:I know he is 32. I also told you that I didn’t think he was that great when he was younger.benteke wrote:i think you are missing what i am saying here.
Why i am mentioning that he is 32yrs old now ? because i realise that he is not the same player he was at his peak when he was much younger and putting in great performances.
It is not a denial that sometimes he doesn't play well
at 32yrs old, some of his peers have are playing in the MLS or China, and yet here is Ronaldo still pulling out great stats at the highest levels in European football.
I find that he is still relevant, and it's impressive that he can still contribute with such important goals
If you have never rated him ever even at his peak, then you cannot make it seem like he was never a great player, that's your own opinion.
But when you now mention the likes of Obi Mikel and try to use that as an example that Ronaldo won things without being great in his career, i beg to differ massively, i think that doesn't make any sense, and those Ballon D'Ors speak for them self, Ronaldo deserved every single one of them.
There are no finer points here, just common sense.
He is playing the same way now at least since Borinho went to Madrid. That’s about 7 years. His game since then has been more about finishing moves. He hardly creates, hardly does any work outside the final third, hardly contributes to team play. His goal-scoring record improved a lot since he adapted his game, but the general play left a lot to be desired. Some have argued that while his personal stats have been great since he went to Madrid, the team should have won more (considering the amounts spent and quality). This could be related to the way he plays.
Mikelele is relevant b/c we are talking about footie and you mentioned trophies. Mikelele has a lot of trophies, but his football is questioned. It shows you can’t shut down a discussion about the game’s finer points by pointing at the trophy cabinet. Djimi Traore won the CL with Liverpool. What does it prove?
Watch games and see the finer points. You’d then learn that stats don’t tell the full story. The stats from the Madrid/Bayern game show a Fake Ron hat-trick. When you watch the game you’d see how he was having a stinker, getting whistled by fans and scored 2 offside goals.
Mikel is irrelevant to this discussion because i talked especially about the multiple Ballon D'or that Ronaldo won, Mikel was never even close to being nominated for one.
These are the arguments you are coming up with and then hide behind 'finer points'
I think you can just say personally you never rated Ronaldo and leave it there, it's just your own opinion.
LAstly if it's a fake hattrick, then Real Madrid must not be in the Semi Final draw, but unfortunately for you the goals stand
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YOU are trying too hard. Quoting the Sun, which also quotes a not-too-reliable newspapercic old boy wrote:You are trying too hard. Everything is an allegation, whether spelt out or not, since I couldn't have been there when the players made the request.tfco wrote:
one minute it is 'alleged', the next it is being reported as fact.
is it alleged, fact, or sometimes unreliable?
And since that post you have run with the story and posted it twice...as if it is factual
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WE are focusing on what we may, or may not have, heardcic old boy wrote:Cheer when they are scoring, they only cheer when they are scoring.tfco wrote: any cheering?
Cristiano Ronaldo was whistled on Tuesday. You might not have heard it on television and you might not have heard it if you were in the stadium either but he did and at one point he lifted his finger to his lips.
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You are trying too hard to dispute allegations that you are in no position to know whether they are true! That's groupie behaviour.tfco wrote: YOU are trying too hard. Quoting the Sun, which also quotes a not-too-reliable newspaper
And since that post you have run with the story and posted it twice...as if it is factual
I first saw that claim in the Independent. Whether it is true or not is not that crucial to the point being made - Fake Ron hasn't been playing well, despite the goals. Something groupies like you are struggling to understand b/c you don't watch games.
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The journo heard it, which is why he wrote about it.tfco wrote:WE are focusing on what we may, or may not have, heard
Cristiano Ronaldo was whistled on Tuesday. You might not have heard it on television and you might not have heard it if you were in the stadium either but he did and at one point he lifted his finger to his lips.
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but you are using that 'allegation' to buttress your pointcic old boy wrote:You are trying too hard to dispute allegations that you are in no position to know whether they are true! That's groupie behaviour.tfco wrote: YOU are trying too hard. Quoting the Sun, which also quotes a not-too-reliable newspaper
And since that post you have run with the story and posted it twice...as if it is factual
I first saw that claim in the Independent. Whether it is true or not is not that crucial to the point being made - Fake Ron hasn't been playing well, despite the goals. Something groupies like you are struggling to understand b/c you don't watch games.
If i am a groupie, would that make you a hater?
Trying too hard, and quoting not-too-reputable sources
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he also wrote this, but let's side step that 'allegation' for now shall wecic old boy wrote:The journo heard it, which is why he wrote about it.tfco wrote:WE are focusing on what we may, or may not have, heard
Cristiano Ronaldo was whistled on Tuesday. You might not have heard it on television and you might not have heard it if you were in the stadium either but he did and at one point he lifted his finger to his lips.
Besides, everyone gets whistled at Madrid; whenever the issue is raised you are remind of that. Gareth Bale has been whistled , Zinedine Zidane tells people it has happened to him, even Alfredo Di Stéfano got it at times.
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Nothing wrong with using an allegation to buttress my point.tfco wrote:but you are using that 'allegation' to buttress your point
If i am a groupie, would that make you a hater?
Trying too hard, and quoting not-too-reputable sources
You are a groupie. I don't hate anyone. I just don't believe the hype.
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People get whistled for a variety of reasons. The issue is why is Fake Ron being whistled. My position is that it is b/c despite the goals, they don't rate him as highly as groupies do.tfco wrote:he also wrote this, but let's side step that 'allegation' for now shall we
Besides, everyone gets whistled at Madrid; whenever the issue is raised you are remind of that. Gareth Bale has been whistled , Zinedine Zidane tells people it has happened to him, even Alfredo Di Stéfano got it at times.
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bale, zizou and di Stefano were not opposition playerscic old boy wrote:People get whistled for a variety of reasons. The issue is why is Fake Ron being whistled. My position is that it is b/c despite the goals, they don't rate him as highly as groupies do.tfco wrote:he also wrote this, but let's side step that 'allegation' for now shall we
Besides, everyone gets whistled at Madrid; whenever the issue is raised you are remind of that. Gareth Bale has been whistled , Zinedine Zidane tells people it has happened to him, even Alfredo Di Stéfano got it at times.
They were whistled too. It has happened, it happens
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cic old boy wrote:Nothing wrong with using an allegation to buttress my point.tfco wrote:but you are using that 'allegation' to buttress your point
If i am a groupie, would that make you a hater?
Trying too hard, and quoting not-too-reputable sources
You are a groupie. I don't hate anyone. I just don't believe the hype.
haters gon hate....and all-e-gate
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Bale was whistled b/c he was crap in his 1st season. I can't remember why Zizou was whistled. Could be for not putting in a shift. Fabregas was booed at Barca b/c they thought he wasn't good enough. Point is, players are whistled for a variety of reasons. I think those whistling Fake Ron are doing so b/c they don't rate him as he rates himself or as groupies do.tfco wrote:bale, zizou and di Stefano were not opposition players
They were whistled too. It has happened, it happens
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thank you for that....allegationcic old boy wrote:Bale was whistled b/c he was crap in his 1st season. I can't remember why Zizou was whistled. Could be for not putting in a shift. Fabregas was booed at Barca b/c they thought he wasn't good enough. Point is, players are whistled for a variety of reasons. I think those whistling Fake Ron are doing so b/c they don't rate him as he rates himself or as groupies do.tfco wrote:bale, zizou and di Stefano were not opposition players
They were whistled too. It has happened, it happens
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So the allegations came from "haters"? And those that reacted negatively to it are g....tfco wrote:
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oops, should be haters gon quote 'allegations'cic old boy wrote:So the allegations came from "haters"? And those that reacted negatively to it are g....tfco wrote:
haters gon hate....and all-e-gate
that should narrow it to the Sun (or is it Daily Mail)...and yourself
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I think, you don't.tfco wrote: thank you for that....allegation
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You don't believe the allegation because you are a g......tfco wrote:oops, should be haters gon quote 'allegations'
that should narrow it to the Sun (or is it Daily Mail)...and yourself
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...of quoting from sources that quote not-so-reliable sourcescic old boy wrote:I think, you don't.tfco wrote: thank you for that....allegation
and then pass it off as FACT.
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and you believe it, and later try to pass it off as fact because you're FACTUALcic old boy wrote:You don't believe the allegation because you are a g......tfco wrote:oops, should be haters gon quote 'allegations'
that should narrow it to the Sun (or is it Daily Mail)...and yourself
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I quote all manner of sources to support my point. There were reports his team-mates wanted him dropped. FACT.tfco wrote:...of quoting from sources that quote not-so-reliable sources
and then pass it off as FACT.
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I have no reason to dispute it. Your reason to dispute it is that you are a groupie.tfco wrote: and you believe it, and later try to pass it off as fact because you're FACTUAL
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whether reliable or not. does not matter. so long as they support my pointcic old boy wrote:I quote all manner of sources to support my point. There were reports his team-mates wanted him dropped. FACT.tfco wrote:...of quoting from sources that quote not-so-reliable sources
and then pass it off as FACT.
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cic old boy wrote:I have no reason to dispute it. Your reason to dispute it is that you are a groupie.tfco wrote: and you believe it, and later try to pass it off as fact because you're FACTUAL
your reason is why you are hanging in this CR7 Hat-trick Thread.
Says it all really
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