cchinukw wrote:
Tbite wrote:
Why are we arguing about probability.
It DOES NOT matter what the probability is, makes no difference whatsoever. I could care less if the probability of Nigeria winning was 1 in a Billion, I would still expect the coach to go out there to win!
Rohr has no idea what job he took on, and even when he reflects on his thoughts (He still does not understand), he thinks that we are confident based on some misplaced knowledge about our ability. Our confidence DOES NOT come from quantifiable metric. it makes no difference whatsoever what the statistics say, what the probability is, as Nigerians we simply believe in the impossible.
And this is not based on nothing. In Europe you might have German efficiency, but in Africa we have Nigerian impossibility. Nigerians do the impossible. For many decades, Europeans have struggled to understand how some of our societies can even function! They really do not know! Rem Koolhaas went to Lagos to study how modernism could transform into something so dynamic, so interstitial.
Words such as chaos, unorganized do not exist, there is no such thing as chaos. There are ALWAYS structures, our people learned to do the impossible, they punch above their weight, because they do it without easily recognisable institutions. They are in a way, more efficient than the Germans. But that is not the point, the the important thing to understand is in Nigeria we do the impossible, and a lot of the time, it actually works. I am not glorifying this system, I am not even a proponent of it (necessarily), I am simply saying, whatever system you have, if there is a chance to succeed (which there undoubtedly is), then you obviously must not deter, and you must go on to try to win.
It is not that we say to Rohr, go out there and win the World Cup, because we so desire it, but we do know in football, winning is not so predictable or easily quantifiable. It would be foolish to immerse yourselves in rankings and club affiliation, especially when it does not help matters in any way shape or form! The only statistics Rohr should be looking at, is the strengths of the opponents, how they shape up, their tactics etc., so that he can use that to inform his team. Nobody hired a historian or a football commentator.
In fact, what Rohr is doing actually makes his team WEAKER! That is the issue. it is not that we do not understand probability, but his defeatist attitude, makes us even weaker than our own ranking! There is nothing weaker than a team who does not believe, and that is how we played against Croatia. Passively, within the back line etc.
Nobody gives a damn about the probability, just play to strength. We did not play to strength against Croatia. After all this talk about probability, they (Croatia) weren't even that impressive. I have seen more competition from Africa itself, before! Morocco was more impressive in this WC, than Croatia against Nigeria!
And if Rohr does not want to understand this, he should resign. Nobody kidnapped him and forced him to take the job. There are losses and then there are losses. Our loss to Croatia was pathetic. Croatia were not that good, and we did not play to our strength, so what does that say in the end? If we play to strength AND we lose, fine..but that is not what happened and Rohr knows it. He is looking for excuses to hide the fact that he FAILED. And not because of the strength of our opponent, but the manner in which we lost reflects his incompetence on the day.
Tbite, you cannot help a German who thinks like a German.
A typical German will hardly thrive in an unstructured or failed setup.
In order for them to at least thrive they will first have to control a lot of factors.
This is strongly on point!
It is particularly so, in contrast with the Dutch mentality, as they approach life in general. Examples abound in the way the Dutch deal with the socially less organised structures in far-away lands like Indonesia, and their Afro-Caribbean territories like Aruba, Guyana (Suriname), for instance. .
Little wonder, then, that our past Dutch coaches (Westerhof, Bonfrere) didn't exhibit this Rohr trait.They did not show any sign they were "daunted" by the systemic challenges they found in our notorious structures. Instead, they believed, then focused on our potential and help unearth a lot of gems and help build cohesive, hard-to-beat blend. Never once did this pair sound defeatist by talks yielding to the strengths of the opponents. And they didn't lose so many games in a row either.
So, you are right that this matter is in the psyche. Between the Germans and the Dutch, the mentality of the latter feels more at home ddealing with and thriving around the unknown. In fact, they embrace it, very much unlike the Germans would.