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chopachop wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:18 am Talking of tactically. The women's Euro is taking place, watch it and then talk of tactics.
You think Africa women's game has improved tremendously but the Euro Women's game has
improved astronomically. countries like Japan. S.Korea and China continue to be tactically
very good. I see it differently. the big guns in women's soccer in Africa like Nigeria and Cameroon have
regressed big time
while the countries newly embracing women's soccer are improving and closing the
gap. Considering the number of times the falcons have won the Wafcon, the falcons should be aspiring to
to play the semis or finals of the WC and that is what should be asked of them. Even, Japan has won the
world cup. Nothing wrong having higher goals.
ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

Nigeria has gone from being absolutely TRASHED AND PUMMELED at the WWC to being competitive...
Even the best-ever WC performing 1999 Falcons chopped 1-7, while scores of 0-8, 0-5, 0-4 come to mind.

By EVERY metric, we are producing stronger TEAMS (emphasis), instead of just 1 or 2 stars...
And we beat the S.Korea you proclaim as “improved astronomically” 2-0 at the last WC in 2019!

And who told you we are not "aspiring" to reach WC semis and finals (Onigbinde "aspired" to win the WC :P )..
S. Korea you HAIL never reached the semis, neither has Spain nor Italy, with Canada, France & Holland barely once.

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Enugu II wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:48 amKPOM. This is actually what I believe as well. One is making gradual improvement and the other is making astronomical improvement.
Prof, it's all RELATIVE...

But some of you do not seem able to recognize the ASTRONOMICAL improvement made by African 'minnows'...
And across the continent, most nations now have a reasonably good female league, and more are exporting talent.
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Bigpokey24 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:01 amwould you like me to tell you how much money is spent in women football in Asia, Europe and the US? maybe that will give you an idea. How much competition is in Africa? one country has won 12 of the 14 championships. You think women football in Europe go to where it is over night.. you have CAF doing some pathetic qualifiers via regions. football will never grow with regional qualifiers
People conveniently ignore that, and rather just blather on about "programs" as if they run on free air...
But even with the billions poured into the female game in those regions, only a few nations have prospered.

In Asia, only Japan and South Korea have grown, while N. Korea (not surprisingly) has fallen off...
Even some fairly recent Asian champions like Thailand and Australia have done JACK at WC level.

Much as in Africa, it's consistently been Nigeria, Cameroon and South Africa, inconsistently Ghana, and recently joined by the likes of Cote d'Ivoire and Zambia, Europe has had just a handful of traditional powerhouses in Germany, Norway, and Sweden, joined relatively recently by the likes of France, the Netherlands and England. Africa simply cannot compete FINANCIALLY, and those African countries that have made the most FINANCIAL investments (such as South Africa and Morocco) has seen the most returns.
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Does anyone know the fixtures for the knockout stage?
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Cellular wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:39 pm
lacidi wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:07 pm
Enugu II wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:53 pm
Odas wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:50 pm We need more improvements, though. We should have scored our third goal there, I think.
This team is not just it. The team needs serious improvement in a couple of games or kiss this championship good bye.
Well I don't think others teams are better with the performance today. SA also stunk up the joint against Burundi.
Which match did you watch? SA dominated and could have scored at least 6-8 goals easily had they been more clinical against the Burundians.
Same with Falcons. At a point we had 80% possession and Botswana trashed same Burundi 4-2.
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Gotti wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:36 am
Enugu II wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:48 amKPOM. This is actually what I believe as well. One is making gradual improvement and the other is making astronomical improvement.
Prof, it's all RELATIVE...

But some of you do not seem able to recognize the ASTRONOMICAL improvement made by African 'minnows'...
And across the continent, most nations now have a reasonably good female league, and more are exporting talent.
I do not think anyone following the women game will deny the closing of that gap. It is evident everywhere but the point is that the top of Africa has not progressed as much as the top has progressed elsewhere. That much is evident as well. When you compare the top in Africa including progress made by likes of Ivory Coast that is not at this finals, it is not as astronomical as progress made by teams that were also rans in the late 90s in South America and Europe. That is the point here. You take a look at the rankings you will be able to plot these differences and spread across time.

Clearly, the funding of the game has an impact. That is undeniable. It is that impact that is pointed out here and the disparity that results from it. Take Nigeria for instance, the national team until recently hardly plated friendlies in a calendar year, how exactly is such a team expectedly to be competitive against European counterparts that play more frequently?
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Are there any female run football programs willy nilly in Africa like they have in the US etc. When you people start pumping money let us know. How many caf women club or country games have you been to? Can you people even name the top caf clubs etc? How many npfl clubs have female versions etc. You people think football only matters when it comes to 11 vs 11. You want to reap what you didn't sow

This is the first time I have any interest in a caf women tourney as well as following it because of our girls and I want to see them in New Zealand. Shameful I must say. Bottom line the interest has never .been this high before

The likes of Ify and Toni Payne are Adidas and Joma athletes as far as sponsors. Tell me how many African firms other than the government invest in the women game

Then you have some people on CE knocking the football because they watch the EU girls who've been invested in properly for years
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Bigpokey24 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:45 pm Are there any female run football programs willy nilly in Africa like they have in the US etc. When you people start pumping money let us know. How many car women club or country games have you been to. Can you people even name the top caf clubs etc? How may npfl clubs have female versions etc. You people think football only matters when it comes to 11 vs 11. You want to reap what you didn't sow

This is the first time I have interest in a caf women tourney and following it because of our girls and I want to see them in New Zealand. Shameful I must say. Bottom line the interest has never .been this high before

The likes of Ify and Toni Payne are Adidas and Joma athletes as far as sponsors. Tell me how many Afican firms other than the government invest in the women game
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So I was right afterall. They have won the AFCON 9 times. The first 2 were just qualifier for world cup and the formal Nations Cup started afterwards.
Bigpokey24 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:26 am
Cito wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:04 am
Bigpokey24 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:48 am
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Ugbowo wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:17 am
Enugu II wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:58 am Maybe I am expecting much better from this team. I am just not feeling IT, to be honest. Sure they may get to the final four but the expectation is to win it all and right now I will be surprised if they do.
I do not expect them to emerge as Champions.
At this point I’ll take WC qualification first. By the time the WC comes, the coach will maybe stop playing some of the players out of position or we get a new coach. I won’t shed tears if we don’t win this cup. We got like 9 in the cabinet already.
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This is the 12th WAFCON. They won 9 with Equatorial Guinea winning the other 2.
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Damunk wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am
Oguleftie wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:28 am
jette1 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:38 pm Ordega doesn’t deserve woman of the match when onumonu and Ayinde with that beautiful pass that created the first goal are there
Welcome to the land of popularity.

And a land where average is called world class.
So who made the decision on WOTM?
Francesca’s boyfriends?
Move on. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
You mean she get boyfriends in high places
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Brundi has the longest national anthem in the world
I kept waiting for when it’s going to stop
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"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."
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jette1 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:18 am
Damunk wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am
Oguleftie wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:28 am
jette1 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:38 pm Ordega doesn’t deserve woman of the match when onumonu and Ayinde with that beautiful pass that created the first goal are there
Welcome to the land of popularity.

And a land where average is called world class.
So who made the decision on WOTM?
Francesca’s boyfriends?
Move on. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
You mean she get boyfriends in high places
She will have no shortage of offers, I assure you.

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