Edu ( Ogbuke) hangs again!!!

LynOslo · Post by **LynOslo** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:02 pm

Oba wrote:
FrostyZ wrote:See his first goal here:

http://www.fxt.no/tippeligaen/article778216.ece

He should leave after the season ends (2 more matches).

He is far too good for Norwegian "Tippeligaen"
He scored only 8 goals this season? That's a lot fewer than one would have anticipated.

Yes, but he's only played 11 matches this season.

leftee · Post by **leftee** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:27 pm

mke1010 wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:I am not one of those who act fickle and changes his mind on who is our best striker every week. I have always believed that Utaka, Ogbuke and Nsofor are the best three choices we have upfront.

However, can anyone see Eguavoen ever dropping Martins and Yakubu for them? We are going nowhere with ICs.
You are a liar. For a long time you saw Utakka and Martins as our best choices upfront. You did not have either Ogbuke or Nsofor ahead of Martins. Do we need to dig up history here?

Please do.

Dodo · Post by **Dodo** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:41 pm

me likes the second goal

1naija · Post by **1naija** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:04 pm

Martins has no business starting for the SE right now. Our starting strikers should be Ogbuke and Aiyegbemi, period!

Norway has no business playing soccer. It is like wastepipes heaven

theYemster · Post by **theYemster** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:51 pm

Ayo Akinfe wrote:I am not one of those who act fickle and changes his mind on who is our best striker every week. I have always believed that Utaka, Ogbuke and Nsofor are the best three choices we have upfront.

However, can anyone see Eguavoen ever dropping Martins and Yakubu for them? We are going nowhere with ICs.

Did you not say this same thing about Peter Ijeh and Martins? Dude quit it already.

bobbye · Post by **bobbye** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:18 am

Fegwu wrote:
skillful wrote:tHE GUY IS A BETTER STRIKER THAN MARTINS FOR NOW
This is Norway.

Remember Seyi Olofinjana dorminated this league (with a handfull of goals to boot). Didn't Peter Ijeh dorminate this league as well? Is it inconcievable to believe that Martins will score in excess of 20 goals per season in this league as well?

Perspective folks. Let Edu start proving it first with goals in SE ala Martins.

Watch the knee, there is someone in the sit in front of you.

Yes thats true but high profile teams in Europe were not after them as it has been indicated in this forum that some of high profile teams have expressed thier desire to have Ogbuke. You must infer from thier interest Ogbuke must be better than Peter Ijeh and Olofinjana while both were playing in Norway

Catalyst · Post by **Catalyst** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:21 am

You make a good point Bobye. Lets see if the Arsenal-Ogbuke link rumour holds true. Could it be a cooked up story since Arsenal already has the Beast, Fab, Henry, Bayo and the young English U21 star. Lets not forget the rumur was reported by a Nigerian outlet first. Did we not hear of something similar during Olofinjana's stinct with Brann?

Lets see what happens this winter window or next summer. All I have for now is that VON, Martins and Even Osaze registered their names (scoring wise) when they came on as SE freshers. This is the only standard we have and for now Edu imho is not only behind Martins but also behind Osaze and VON.

Lets not forget Isaac Promise and Babs Ogunsoto. They have a case as well even though Edu is getting all the light now.

The more the merrier.

cchinukw · Post by **cchinukw** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:07 am

Ayo Akinfe wrote:
olumide wrote:lord..can you stop....Ic...this....Ic that...IC murder Milutinovic....and coached us against Denmark....man can you go quiet yourself.....It was Ic that bought Oba and Yakubu into Super Eagles in the first place...not to mention unproven talents like Taiwo...or even Ayila who also plys his trade in a low profile league....has not Ogbuke started in our last two matches anyway?....what are you talking about!
Which of these would you rather:

Lose to Denmark in the second round of the World Cup after topping your group with a famous 3-2 win over Spain
Miss out on qualifying for the World Cup to Angola, not being able to beat the likes of Rwanda, Gabon and Angola.

Can you enlighten us first on Milutinovic's role in getting us to the WC that year? Or is it a case of an FC reaping where he didn't sow?

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:36 pm

The real deal wrote:Since IC brought Oba, what has he achieved with him?

More than Newcastle has achieved with him...

Bonfere brot Yak FYI (to U/23)

Not quite. Actually, Aiyegbeni was part of the U-23 squad (I think it was coached by James Peters, but I could be wrong) that failed to qualify for the 1999 AAG in South Africa -- before joining the 2000 Olympic Games qualifying squad.

SSS discovered TT and he definitely is not your average "IC", Infact that nomenclature will be an insult on SSS...

Again, not quite true. Taye Taiwo was already a Super Eagle invitee before joining the Flying Eagles. In fact, he was first invited to the Super Eagles in June 2004 for the WCQ against Angola in Luanda.

I'm not against "ICs"...I just think they're not proven competent .

And how do you "prove" ICs? By denying them opportunities to prove themselves?
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1naija · Post by **1naija** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:42 pm

Gotti wrote:
The real deal wrote:Since IC brought Oba, what has he achieved with him?
More than Newcastle has achieved with him...

Bonfere brot Yak FYI (to U/23)
Not quite. Actually, Aiyegbeni was part of the U-23 squad (I think it was coached by James Peters, but I could be wrong) that failed to qualify for the 1999 AAG in South Africa -- before joining the 2000 Olympic Games qualifying squad.

SSS discovered TT and he definitely is not your average "IC", Infact that nomenclature will be an insult on SSS...
Again, not quite true. Taye Taiwo was already a Super Eagle invitee before joining the Flying Eagles. In fact, he was first invited to the Super Eagles in June 2004 for the WCQ against Angola in Luanda.

I'm not against "ICs"...I just think they're not proven competent .
And how do you "prove" ICs? By denying them opportunities to prove themselves?
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Gotti, but you have to admit that ICs dey kind by Kind. I often shudder every time I remember that an IC played Obodo as a lone striker.

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:55 pm

1naija wrote:Gotti, but you have to admit that ICs dey kind by Kind. I often shudder every time I remember that an IC played Obodo as a lone striker.

Then you would faint that an FC played Muda Lawal as a lone striker...
That an FC played FB/CD Emeka Ezeugo as a right-winger in a WC finals game...
And that an FC played Mutiu Adepoju as a full-back in two WC finals games.
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1naija · Post by **1naija** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:58 pm

Gotti wrote:
1naija wrote:Gotti, but you have to admit that ICs dey kind by Kind. I often shudder every time I remember that an IC played Obodo as a lone striker.
Then you would faint that an FC played Muda Lawal as a lone striker...
That an FC played FB/CD Emeka Ezeugo as a right-winger in a WC finals game...
And that an FC played Mutiu Adepoju as a full-back in two WC finals games.
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We can argue that those FCs were mercenaries who didn't have the best interest of Nigerian football at heart. An IC should know better.

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:02 pm

1naija wrote:We can argue that those FCs were mercenaries who didn't have the best interest of Nigerian football at heart. An IC should know better.

Yes...
Internet Coaches know best!

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1naija · Post by **1naija** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:07 pm

Gotti wrote:
1naija wrote:We can argue that those FCs were mercenaries who didn't have the best interest of Nigerian football at heart. An IC should know better.
Yes...
Internet Coaches know best!
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At least they wouldn't have played Obodo as a striker. Do you by chance remember which coach comitted this colossal blunder?

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:10 pm

1naija wrote:At least they wouldn't have played Obodo as a striker.

Correct again...
They would "play" him in Cyberspace!

Otto Gloria, Westerhoff and Bora Multivitamins...
Feel free to take your pick.
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FrostyZ · Post by **FrostyZ** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:26 pm

Fegwu wrote:You make a good point Bobye. Lets see if the Arsenal-Ogbuke link rumour holds true.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/23102006/sports2.html

Don't know how true it is, just found this

txj · Post by **txj** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:56 pm

Nobody played Mutui or Ezeugo as a FB or RW.

I see you still have not learnt the difference between a flat back four formation and a 3-5-2

Gotti wrote:
1naija wrote:Gotti, but you have to admit that ICs dey kind by Kind. I often shudder every time I remember that an IC played Obodo as a lone striker.
Then you would faint that an FC played Muda Lawal as a lone striker...
That an FC played FB/CD Emeka Ezeugo as a right-winger in a WC finals game...
And that an FC played Mutiu Adepoju as a full-back in two WC finals games.
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