Do We Really Have A "Big Four" in England?

[Maradona]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

[kofi86]

Please post the results of the EPL games between the big two and Liverpool, Arsenal. Thank you in advance

[Eagle Winged]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

By that logic, what do these results show you?

Arsenal 2 - 1 Manure
Manure 1 - 4 Liverpool

Are you trying to make a hobby out of making useless, embarrassing threads?

[omo naija]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

By that logic, what do these results show you?

Arsenal 2 - 1 Manure
Manure 1 - 4 Liverpool

Are you trying to make a hobby out of making useless, embarrassing threads?

Chei

[Maradona]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

By that logic, what do these results show you?

Arsenal 2 - 1 Manure
Manure 1 - 4 Liverpool

Are you trying to make a hobby out of making useless, embarrassing threads?

Teams should be assessed over the course of the season. You cannot just assess teams based on games between the 4 of them. Why do you think the saying goes: the season's not a sprint but a marathon"?
You're the one embarrassing yourself. How can a team go 4consecutive seasons without finishing in the top 2, and yet you claim they're not the worse of the big four?
Think critically before making those comments.

[REDSPYDA]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

[Maradona]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

[EagleGunner]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

oh lets not forget... Chelski 1 Arsenal 2.
Its a continous test and in the next few weeks we'll find out... On Sat we play Chelski in a semi final of the FA cup...lets wait and see.
But if i were you i'd worry if your team has enough DEFENDERS against the NEW AVENGERS of HULK & co from Porto on wednesday. Hope you guys get through.....so that we can test this theory of yours.

[Maradona]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

oh lets not forget... Chelski 1 Arsenal 2.
Its a continous test and in the next few weeks we'll find out... On Sat we play Chelski in a semi final of the FA cup...lets wait and see.
But if i were you i'd worry if your team has enough DEFENDERS against the NEW AVENGERS of HULK & co from Porto on wednesday. Hope you guys get through.....so that we can test this theory of yours.

The season consist of 38 league games played by every team and not 6 games involving the so called big four. You guys haven't won a trophy since death was new and you're here making noise.

[EagleGunner]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

oh lets not forget... Chelski 1 Arsenal 2.
Its a continous test and in the next few weeks we'll find out... On Sat we play Chelski in a semi final of the FA cup...lets wait and see.
But if i were you i'd worry if your team has enough DEFENDERS against the NEW AVENGERS of HULK & co from Porto on wednesday. Hope you guys get through.....so that we can test this theory of yours.

The season consist of 38 league games played by every team and not 6 games involving the so called big four. You guys haven't won a trophy since death was new and you're here making noise.

..thats true, but that'll change real soon.

[Maradona]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

oh lets not forget... Chelski 1 Arsenal 2.
Its a continous test and in the next few weeks we'll find out... On Sat we play Chelski in a semi final of the FA cup...lets wait and see.
But if i were you i'd worry if your team has enough DEFENDERS against the NEW AVENGERS of HULK & co from Porto on wednesday. Hope you guys get through.....so that we can test this theory of yours.

The season consist of 38 league games played by every team and not 6 games involving the so called big four. You guys haven't won a trophy since death was new and you're here making noise.

..thats true, but that'll change real soon.

Definitely! When Fabregas signs for Barcelona and Adebayor signs for AC Milan.

[Thunder]

If the big four doesn't exist, then what four teams have occupied the top four positions in the last four seasons you have stated. Go siddon some place, because your argument doesn't hold water.

[Maradona]

If the big four doesn't exist, then what four teams have occupied the top four positions in the last four seasons you have stated. Go siddon some place, because your argument doesn't hold water.

Some of you guys really have problems of comprehension. Go back and read my second to last paragraph cos it should help you understand better.
Nevertheless, I've decided to help you. I categorically stated the highlighted:

Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea

If you don't comprehend that, then you never will.

[Eagle Winged]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

By that logic, what do these results show you?

Arsenal 2 - 1 Manure
Manure 1 - 4 Liverpool

Are you trying to make a hobby out of making useless, embarrassing threads?

Teams should be assessed over the course of the season. You cannot just assess teams based on games between the 4 of them. Why do you think the saying goes: the season's not a sprint but a marathon"?
You're the one embarrassing yourself. How can a team go 4consecutive seasons without finishing in the top 2, and yet you claim they're not the worse of the big four?
Think critically before making those comments.

You're the one who claimed Chelsea beating Liverpool 3-1 at home in that one match supports your argument that "the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again". So now i point out the beatings your team took in individual matches and you start going on about it's a marathon not a sprint, as though that wasn't my exact point?

And where have i ever said or implied Arsenal are not the worst of the big four?

Like i said; useless and embarrassing.

[smartbrother]

the attention you guys pay this dude is obviously encouraging him to post this kind of stuff.

[EagleGunner]

oh lets not forget... Chelski 1 Arsenal 2.
Its a continous test and in the next few weeks we'll find out... On Sat we play Chelski in a semi final of the FA cup...lets wait and see.
But if i were you i'd worry if your team has enough DEFENDERS against the NEW AVENGERS of HULK & co from Porto on wednesday. Hope you guys get through.....so that we can test this theory of yours.

The season consist of 38 league games played by every team and not 6 games involving the so called big four. You guys haven't won a trophy since death was new and you're here making noise.

..thats true, but that'll change real soon.

Definitely! When Fabregas signs for Barcelona and Adebayor signs for AC Milan.

Is that what you're hoping for to have a chance against us huh?

[EagleGunner]

the attention you guys pay this dude is obviously encouraging him to post this kind of stuff.

My Bad, i wont be doing it again..

[Maradona]

People have always stated that in England we have the so called "big four" which includes: Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool & of cos Arsenal. This is down to the fact that these four teams usually occupy the top four positions at the end of the season, and subsequently qualify for the Champions League. While this presumption seems to be justified, the fact that the Manchester United and Chelsea have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons points to a big two.

Although most of you will argue that there is still a "big four", it can at least be submitted that there is now a "Big Two" (Manchester United & Chelsea) which have showed that they're a class apart from the remaining two teams. Manchester United and Chelsea have not only dominated the top 2 positions in the league, they also played the last Champions League final in Moscow.

The recent hammering (in a manner of speaking) of Liverpool by Chelsea at Anfield only goes to show that the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again. Sure the game was related to the Champions League, but it shows that Drogba and co are now a resurgent team, and they might just finish above Liverpool yet again, and frankly speaking, that will not be a surprise. Therefore, although we have a "big four" in comparison with the rest of the league, we also have a big two (Manchester United and Chelsea).

One thing is certain. Arsenal are the worst team among the so called "big Four". Their trophy cabinet in the past four seasons reflect this.

By that logic, what do these results show you?

Arsenal 2 - 1 Manure
Manure 1 - 4 Liverpool

Are you trying to make a hobby out of making useless, embarrassing threads?

Teams should be assessed over the course of the season. You cannot just assess teams based on games between the 4 of them. Why do you think the saying goes: the season's not a sprint but a marathon"?
You're the one embarrassing yourself. How can a team go 4consecutive seasons without finishing in the top 2, and yet you claim they're not the worse of the big four?
Think critically before making those comments.

You're the one who claimed Chelsea beating Liverpool 3-1 at home in that one match supports your argument that "the top 2 of the EPL might remain unchanged yet again". So now i point out the beatings your team took in individual matches and you start going on about it's a marathon not a sprint, as though that wasn't my exact point?

And where have i ever said or implied Arsenal are not the worst of the big four?

Like i said; useless and embarrassing.

Does the word "MIGHT" be anything to you?
A sensible and reasonable individual would know that it is used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility.
In addition, recent history is on my side because of the positions of the tow teams in the last 4 years.
But then again, a lot of peeps on this site cannot separate their hearts from their heads., and it reflects in some of their arguments.

[Maradona]

the attention you guys pay this dude is obviously encouraging him to post this kind of stuff.

You're not obliged to post on this thread. If you've nothing to say, simply move on.
Some of the calibre of individuals on this site is simply alarming. If you cannot produce contrary evidence why not move on?

[Maradona]

the attention you guys pay this dude is obviously encouraging him to post this kind of stuff.

My Bad, i wont be doing it again..

It shouldn't!
Especially when you do not have a mind of your own.
I see your superior has given you an order and just like the subordinate that you are, you've obeyed.

[Globero]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

Last Season 2007/2008 Arsenal 3rd
Two seasons ago 2006/2007 Arsenal 4th
Three seasons ago 2005/2006 Arsenal 4th
Four seasons ago 2004/2005 Arsenal 2nd

.... Arsenal for life !

[Maradona]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

Last Season 2007/2008 Arsenal 3rd
Two seasons ago 2006/2007 Arsenal 4th
Three seasons ago 2005/2006 Arsenal 4th
Four seasons ago 2004/2005 Arsenal 2nd

.... Arsenal for life !

That's what the angel* who calls himself smart -#$% should be doing. Provide evidence to rebut the presumption.
You're right, you guys finished 2nd four seasons ago.
I still insist we have a big two based on the fact that only 2 clubs have won the EPL in the last 4 seasons.

[kulu]

u seem to enjoy making a fool of yourself... U are the mumuzines of the Eaglenest... and that is not a compliment

Produce evidence that points to the contrary and not just insulting language.
I've given my evidence. Man U and Chels have finished in the top 2 positions for the last 4 consecutive seasons. What does that tell you about the other teams?

Abeg go siddon saful.

Last Season 2007/2008 Arsenal 3rd
Two seasons ago 2006/2007 Arsenal 4th
Three seasons ago 2005/2006 Arsenal 4th
Four seasons ago 2004/2005 Arsenal 2nd

.... Arsenal for life !

What do you expect from someone who still cannot see straight after six daggers to the heart?