Pls Call OLISEH back.....

[paj]

For the umpteenth time the Super Eagles is not the place to develop players it's the place where Finished Articles Blend ...

Obodo, Christopher and Olofinjana are free to be developed in the U_23's and at there clubs!

Ba Prophet I completely disagree with you, how many so called finished articles do we have? Baring JJ and possibly Yobo we dont have any other finished articles. We are in the process of building a team for now and the future. Going by your view we may as well bring all the Oldies back and blend the good old finished articles.

...U keep grasping the word 'future' like it automatically means 'better'..fyi make I rewind your mind for U:Cameroon was nothing in 1990 withou Milla..and he was 42!The fact that U have a 'new' team does not mean U have a 'better' team...U wan win WORLD cup..U need WORLD CLASS players..simple..and no one here can argue about Oliseh's class in respect to the current players we have in his position...

Pa

[Talk IT]

For the umpteenth time the Super Eagles is not the place to develop players it's the place where Finished Articles Blend ...

Obodo, Christopher and Olofinjana are free to be developed in the U_23's and at there clubs!

Ba Prophet I completely disagree with you, how many so called finished articles do we have? Baring JJ and possibly Yobo we dont have any other finished articles. We are in the process of building a team for now and the future. Going by your view we may as well bring all the Oldies back and blend the good old finished articles.

Tell him.
Going but BaP 's logic, we would still be stuck with Shoroumu because Enyeame wasn't the finished product then and he won't have enough opportunity to show what he can do.

As you rightly said, one of the biggest untruth the pro oloseh's gang are trying to pedal is that Oliseh is our best DM. This is a big lie and i can bet a million £ on it. . If Oliseh, Obodo, Olofinjana, Christopher, Kaku, Garbal and all others are invited to fight for this shirt on merit, Oliseh will not smell it. Is this not the same Oliseh that can't tackle who would plant one leg on the ground?

[paj]

Oliseh was sacked for unruly behaviour at BD. He head-butted a player and drew blood. He clearly has a feisty side. However he has also lost form. He may still be playing some football but his best days are far gone. We have to weigh the benefits of recalling him against the cons of so doing. My take is that he is not that required for the SE, and by 2006 we would have sorted out our perceived DM problems without upsetting the apple cart of peace in the camp at this point in time.

Oliseh probably needs the benefit of retiring from the international game in order to prolong his playing career at club level by a few more months. Look at the likes of Shearer, Scoles, Zidane, etc who have similarly retired. It has become clear to France that if they wish to regain centre stage of WC football the aging players have to go. It is retrogressive to ask Oliseh back at this time. We should move forward not backwards. You may also ask for Taribo et al. Abeg jo lets move on. We wish him well in the future but not in an SE shirt anymore.

...another mumufied sputtering..did Okocha elbow someone and get redcarded right on homesoil in Lasgidi? Abeg...some of the best have feisty sides..Edmundo,Cantona...U name it...and of course U know that was one off.........and why should Oliseh care about what Shearer and Zidane are doing?Y dont U go an tell Oliver Kahn to retire too then?If those players personally dont feel like playing anymore that's their one bag of garri..totally opposite a man who still wishes to rep his country if he can!Omo..ya thesis is baseless

Pa

[Skylolo]

Paj we did not have Obodo or Olofinjanna at the WC. We are stronger now than we were then do you know why? Because we introduced good young players into the team, and gave younger players the incentive to challenge for national team shirts.

Paj everyone thinks his wife is the most beautiful, that is why you think you can school me in football.

[paj]

For the umpteenth time the Super Eagles is not the place to develop players it's the place where Finished Articles Blend ...

Obodo, Christopher and Olofinjana are free to be developed in the U_23's and at there clubs!

Ba Prophet I completely disagree with you, how many so called finished articles do we have? Baring JJ and possibly Yobo we dont have any other finished articles. We are in the process of building a team for now and the future. Going by your view we may as well bring all the Oldies back and blend the good old finished articles.

Tell him.
Going but BaP 's logic, we would still be stuck with Shoroumu because Enyeame wasn't the finished product then and he won't have enough opportunity to show what he can do.

As you rightly said, one of the biggest untruth the pro oloseh's gang are trying to pedal is that Oliseh is our best DM. This is a big lie and i can bet a million £ on it. . If Oliseh, Obodo, Olofinjana, Christopher, Kaku, Garbal and all others are invited to fight for this shirt on merit, Oliseh will not smell it. Is this not the same Oliseh that can't tackle who would plant one leg on the ground?

....How shortsighted the shortsighted is!Omo...Obodo is the only one of those U've mentioned that can make three consecutive complete passes and possess the sort of confidence that Oliseh has....but still lacks the offensive threat from long distance that Oliseh brings to the field..abi U wan tell me any of those fit nak shot reach Oliseh?I'm not saying he'll automatically win a shirt..but @ the same time if we dey go war I think we need to @ least try to rally our troops...I just think Nigeria is wrong in casting it's vets to the side based on rumours by the NFA...Oliseh and Finidi did the country proud....and until their exclusion or expulsion from the team were better than those that were left on the team..

Pa

[paj]

Paj we did not have Obodo or Olofinjanna at the WC. We are stronger now than we were then do you know why? Because we introduced good young players into the team, and gave younger players the incentive to challenge for national team shirts.

Paj everyone thinks his wife is the most beautiful, that is why you think you can school me in football.

..trust me..guys with ugly wives know it...so I can still give U pointers.. I've seen Olofinjana play...he wins balls well,but his distribution can be sometimes woeful!Obodo yes..is good..better than Oliseh?I dunno....and abeg if U say Justice Christopher I go chook U pen! Justice is good but lacks the confidence to be an offensive threat....U wan carry an all young team to the world cup?Gladly we have two or so more years before the big dance so we can still grow...the US carry young team go in 1996,U see wetin Germany do dem?Flogging doesnt even cover it..cause they left their vets off the team!I'm not clamoring for the replacement of anyone..I just think if the man wants to prove himself(which I dont really think he cares to)or if there's a way we can bring all our big guns to the table, we should..we never know what may happen before the world cup!remember how we sorely missed Chukwu Ndukwe during the ANC2k2 becos pesin break im leg for training?I've always said one thing:If we have world class players in a certain position in Nigeria,we would all know it..and the pesin wey im dey replace sef no go make pim!

Pa

[daddyrich]

...If Oliseh, Obodo, Olofinjana, Christopher, Kaku, Garbal and all others are invited to fight for this shirt on merit, Oliseh will not smell it. Is this not the same Oliseh that can't tackle who would plant one leg on the ground?

Then wtf are y'all pissing in your pants about inviting him? Any other Nigerian regular for BD would have been given a look-in by now. You should be magnanimus enough to admit that much.

Let him be invited and let the debate end!! How can you be so high on moral grounds about alleged disruptions but be quiet on Babayaro? That is such a farce, I feel like hitting something!

We've heared reports of Taribo, Oruma, Aghahowa, Aiyegbeni, Agali, Babayaro and even Udeze quitting the SE. Why are you guys pissing in your pants about recalling Oliseh?

It is only fair that a Nigerian starter for BD be invited to camp to test his skills/form against what we have.
Denying him a call-up is certainly more stupid than handing him an automatic shirt!

[paj]

...If Oliseh, Obodo, Olofinjana, Christopher, Kaku, Garbal and all others are invited to fight for this shirt on merit, Oliseh will not smell it. Is this not the same Oliseh that can't tackle who would plant one leg on the ground?

Then wtf are y'all pissing in your pants about inviting him? Any other Nigerian regular for BD would have been given a look-in by now. You should be magnanimus enough to admit that much.

Let him be invited and let the debate end!! How can you be so high on moral grounds about alleged disruptions but be quiet on Babayaro? That is such a farce, I feel like hitting something!

We've heared reports of Taribo, Oruma, Aghahowa, Aiyegbeni, Agali, Babayaro and even Udeze quitting the SE. Why are you guys pissing in your pants about recalling Oliseh?

It is only fair that a Nigerian starter for BD be invited to camp to test his skills/form against what we have.
Denying him a call-up is certainly more stupid than handing him an automatic shirt!

..WORD! 8)
Pa

[Schillachi]

Who are these ancient human beings advocating for the recall of Oliseh? Na wa for una o. Una don ever hear of letting go? Na people like una go dey beg perpetually beg ex-girlfriend to come back even after she don completely diss una.

[legend]

Who are these ancient human beings advocating for the recall of Oliseh? Na wa for una o. Una don ever hear of letting go? Na people like una go dey beg perpetually beg ex-girlfriend to come back even after she don completely diss una.

I saw Oliseh in action, against his former team(Bochum) and he delivered another solid and classy performance and crowned it by setting Kohler's goal.
I won't compare a guy that plays for a top bundesliga team, with a nation-wide(whatever that means) league player.
OLISEH DEFINITELY BELONGS IN THE NATIONAL TEAM!!

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

oya, bring back Oliseh and give am his captn's band jare. we dont want dribblers captaining our team

[Janganza]

oya, bring back Oliseh and give am his captn's band jare. we dont want dribblers captaining our team

Roy Keane came back to the Irish squad but his captainship was not restored.

[Lowen Brau]

Oliseh is finished period. All ye shriners and football agents should please get a life. He is old, he is tired, and he will corrupt the camp. Obodo and Olofinjana for ever. They are young, they are improving and they will be available for the world cup in 2 years time.

[daddyrich]

Oliseh is finished period. All ye shriners and football agents should please get a life.

No YOU get a life! You are simply bashing without looking at the facts. Fact is the guy can still play and as such is relevant to Nigeria in whatever capacity - even if only as training material to be discarded after camp!

The guys you mentioned will only get better if they can learn ANYTHING from him about the position they play.
If you are so high on those young men, why would you deprive them of Oliseh's experience and stunt/delay their growth/maturity?

The point is you don't care about the people you mentioned or even their development in the national team. You only care to spite one man and are willing to sacrifice Nigerian footie for it.

[daddyrich]

oya, bring back Oliseh and give am his captn's band jare. we dont want dribblers captaining our team

Even he knows he can't get the band back. Frankly I don't believe he gives a hoot about it considering the grief it brought him

[Lowen Brau]

Daddyrich

You are wrong. I have no grouse with Oliseh as a person. I rooted for him in his hey days. These boys will learn about that position in their respective clubs and from those who they play with in the SE. Gone are the days when any player is indispensable in the SE. The only player who is nearly indispensable in the SE is Baba JJ. He has proved that on a daily basis in Bolton and at the SE. We have proved we can grind out good results without Oliseh. Why bring him back when he has passed his prime? I just dont get it. Let us move on. Yobo is young and can do that job if we can get Babayaro back to behave himself (he too is not indispensable)

[baprophet]

Lown Brau:

You know the more you type the more your PR with me goes down!

I thinks say you be pesin wey get sense before but as I just dey look you are definitely one of those who just parrots and spouts nonsense without assessing or looking at facts.

It's increasingly apparent that your biff with oliseh has littyle to do with football but your flawed misperceptions of the Guy. you are willing to ignore gross indiscipline by the likes of Mr "I missed my flight", "I forgot my passport", "I'll show up in camp 2 days before ANC and still be captain" Okocha but turn around denigrate the Character of Oliseh

Anyway You are a typical Nigerean who will go with style over substance anyday......

Pitiful

[12LION]

The midfield needs to improve - and I think Oliseh is the best man. Olofinja.. has not been in top form.

ODUNYEMI,
It is not wise to bring back a former Captain to the team. The dynamics of his relationship with JJ will be very unsettling, and would invariably work against team chemistry. Let JJ be the only captain on the SE ship.

May be when he retires he can be considered for a coaching or some sort of front office position.

[Mudi E]

Instead of Oliseh, they should go find Justice Christopher immediately.

[daddyrich]

ODUNYEMI,
It is not wise to bring back a former Captain to the team. The dynamics of his relationship with JJ will be very unsettling, and would invariably work against team chemistry.

How do you know that for a fact? The man is not indispensable for Pete's sake, you can get rid of him if he's more trouble than he's worth.

But until then, let his performances speak. JJ is Oliseh's contemporary, Kanu's form is less spectacular than Oliseh, how can these guys not be past their prime but Oliseh is.
The pertinent question is: "Is Oliseh at 80% of what he was in his prime still beneficial to Nija in some capacity?"

[daddyrich]

Daddyrich

You are wrong. I have no grouse with Oliseh as a person. I rooted for him in his hey days. These boys will learn about that position in their respective clubs and from those who they play with in the SE. Gone are the days when any player is indispensable in the SE. The only player who is nearly indispensable in the SE is Baba JJ. He has proved that on a daily basis in Bolton and at the SE. We have proved we can grind out good results without Oliseh. Why bring him back when he has passed his prime? I just dont get it. Let us move on. Yobo is young and can do that job if we can get Babayaro back to behave himself (he too is not indispensable)

Prejudice by its own definition means passing judgement before testing.

You have already introduced indispensability into the arguement; of which it's only use is to potray Oliseh as someone who thinks he is indispensible.
Even JJ is not indispensable, we may be worse off without him, but we can certainly field a competitive team.

Performance should be the standard, not age. If an 80% Oliseh is just as good as a 100% then one may choose Oliseh for his experience, or Obodo for his youth/potential. What you do NOT do is simply turn Obodo away because he hasn't reached his potential, or Oliseh because he is past his prime.

If my max potential is 100% and I can only give 80%, will you take 70% from someone whose maximum is 75%?

As a coach I will take the maximum potential available to me. That is my only point

[paj]

Instead of Oliseh, they should go find Justice Christopher immediately.

...abeg...I can do what JC can do in the Eagles! Abi na who no sabi make backpasses?

Pa

[paj]

Daddyrich

You are wrong. I have no grouse with Oliseh as a person. I rooted for him in his hey days. These boys will learn about that position in their respective clubs and from those who they play with in the SE. Gone are the days when any player is indispensable in the SE. The only player who is nearly indispensable in the SE is Baba JJ. He has proved that on a daily basis in Bolton and at the SE. We have proved we can grind out good results without Oliseh. Why bring him back when he has passed his prime? I just dont get it. Let us move on. Yobo is young and can do that job if we can get Babayaro back to behave himself (he too is not indispensable)

...I think U hurt your brain when U try to think! WTF are U talking about? Can U go back and watch Cameroon in 1990?Age is nothing but a number...and Oliseh is proving himself in the Bundesliga!Try speaking with the hole below ya nose not the one in ya back......

Pa