NIGERIA 0 V 1 GERMANY GAME THREAD

[metalalloy]

At under 17 level, Nigeria seems to do quite well a they usually take much older players to compete against kids from other nations, when it comes to the under 20 level when they players are required to use their footballing brains, Nigerian players will often come up 2nd best, look at the german team that everyone is praising now, do you know they had to go back to the drawing board after mediocre performances at the world cup, they started to rebuild right from the youth and we can see the results today, always say when Nigeria meets a highly organised European side, they will come out 2nd best

if i abuse you now, they will say I'm rude so i will hold my mouth

[Damunk]

There is something wrong with the Euro based player and the coach. Makes no sense. I see Iheanacho shaking his head as in Manu is freaking stupid

That is YOUR interpretation, one of many.
Nacho was shaking his head basically saying 'its not working for us'.
But being a real Naijaman, you must abuse somebody because it is your God-given right to win at all times.
Germany were the better, more experienced team. Finish.
Deal with it.

[marutimon]

Daft coach, you had redeemable options on your bench but stuck to your rubbish...aboki..I guess i'm supporting Mali.

The same options that stunk against Brazil...or other ones?

They did not stink against Brazil. That was our best game in my opinion. All that was needed was the right balance and just one change from that first game should have been enough in my opinion.

This. The attacking line was the only thing that was working. Manu Garba decided to dismantle it.

[Metho scorpion]

..Brazil - wUruguay penalty...

[yannick]

Why didn't yahaya play or even Ihenacho??? Is Manu an imbecile or something? I guess Ihenacho was better of working his way up at Man city, dude was just brought to NZ to warm the bench smh

[tunde72]

Can we compare all three matches Bubwa played with just on that Yahaya played? Manu got explanation to make walahi

[metalalloy]

There is something wrong with the Euro based player and the coach. Makes no sense. I see Iheanacho shaking his head as in Manu is freaking stupid

That is YOUR interpretation,one of many.
Nacho was shaking his head basically saying 'its not working for us'.
But being a real Naijaman, you must abuse somebody because it is your God-given right to win at all times.

[marutimon]

Fegwu abeg stop it. Musa that can't cross a frickin letter "t" if his life depended on it. Those German kids were better technically than the Nigerian kids. Some of the Naij players are more skilful but technically lacking compared to the Germans.

The guys on the bench have nothing to be ashamed of. They are easily their equal. And whats more - they are more intelligent players.

[Catalyst]

What gulf?

What did Akpoguma do? Go watch the game again. I focused on him specifically because of his link to Nigeria - analyzing every move and decision he made - a few bright spot give & gos but naaaa - he did not cut it for me. Not like say Alaba or Sam. Those are real gems.

Best wishes to him though.

Catalyst,

Did you see any of our players win a one-on-one battle against Akpoguma even when he was tired. I did not. Did you not see Success and Mustapha struggle? Akpoguma looked like a guard on a basketball court who only had to stretch his hand to hold players at bay.

Did you see Musa on both flanks covering ground on both sides of the pitch (how I wish FIFA kept the kilometer covered stats).

Musa was more athletic, made more positive passes, was more inspiring. Akpoguma would slow the game down, often lost on ideas, maybe trying to imitate Yaya Toure, would try to dribble Mustapha to no avail, cannot cross to save his life.....what else did I miss?

Yeah Musa's freekicks could be better - but Germans as a team were not that impressive in this area as well. So what gives?

[Goldleaf]

We like to blame the coaches but the players are culpable as well. Our players are too individualistic and do not play for a common goal.sometimes it is subtle ( with the likes of Awoniyi). It starts from attitude off the pitch and manifests in play on the pitch. The Germans were a far superior team to us in terms of tactics and even technical play. Once they scored and it was halftime you could see they had a plan to slow the game down any which way and they succeeded- we had no answers. We do well at under 17 because we have the individual skills which works at that level. As you go up in football- things like technique, positioning, tactics, movement and concentration matter more and then we no longer are able to cope. The Super Eagles of the 90s had some of the same traits only that they were better technical players and also played more as a unit

At U17 level, the other countries are mostly naive and not as pacy as our players. The difference is in what happens after that level.

[marutimon]

What gulf?

What did Akpoguma do? Go watch the game again. I focused on him specifically because of his link to Nigeria - analyzing every move and decision he made - a few bright spot give & gos but naaaa - he did not cut it for me. Not like say Alaba or Sam. Those are real gems.

Best wishes to him though.

Catalyst,

Did you see any of our players win a one-on-one battle against Akpoguma even when he was tired. I did not. Did you not see Success and Mustapha struggle? Akpoguma looked like a guard on a basketball court who only had to stretch his hand to hold players at bay.

Did you see Musa on both flanks covering ground on both sides of the pitch (how I wish FIFA kept the kilometer covered stats).

Musa was more athletic, made more positive passes, was more inspiring.

Yeah Musa's freekicks could be better - but Germans as a team were not that impressive in this area as well. So what gives?

Musa's crosses and freekicks were poor, but Musa held his own and did well.

[Gotti]

No matter what we put out the german were going to win. They were simply better.

So why bother?

[hestonap]

That was a game when the coach should have gone for broke and brought in the game changers on the bench, at least in the 80th minute when the Germans were tiring out was the best time, what did he do, brought in a defensive midfielder, ohh m days, talk about the illiteracy of Nigerian coaches

Marko - do you want to summarise the stereotypical Nigerian performance again...summarised by always doing the same thing and expecting to get a different result even when its not clearly working...

- do the long pass..even it does not work....atempt to kick it higher and further and hope for the best

- remember to always lose the ball to the opponent on a regular and consistent basis

- take your time to settle into a game, afterall the first 10 to 15 minutes are not really part of the game...its only for warming up

- throw-ins are an opportunity to pass the ball to your opponent.

- keep trying to thread that 0.5um of a pass when the simpler option will do

- it's not chess so why concentrate....

- our old favourite of defending against set pieces is a complete waste of time...lets just get on with the playing

- oh every free kick or set piece opportunity we have is more likely a chance to reduce the population of beds or to try to injure the opponent by taking out his balls or damaging his chest...the opponents wall is the target..not that space between the wall and the net

- expect the unexpected...even when it is obvious that what you are hoping to happen on the day has really never happened before

you don scout us finish!

we compare notes
1- the quality opposition is more than likely to score within the first 5 minutes if not less at kickoff, seen this happen too many times, our players are still warming up when the opposing team strikes the killer blow
2- The goal keeper never screams at the defence, they are either too timid or expects the defenders to do their job
3- In an event that Nigeria takes the lead, they over celebrate and by the time they have calmed down, the oppostion has put another one past us, seen this too many times
4- The defenders leave too many glaring open spaces for the opposition to exploit, sometimes you see the opposing team getting a few one on one chances with the keeper
5- at the stroke of half time, Nigerian teams are vulnerable to another goal scored by the opposing side
6- The average Nigerian team cannot concentrate for 90 minutes
7- There is an over reliance of individual talent to make up for the short comings of shoody preparation
8- Opposing players who have no business scoring in a football match usually scores against Nigeria, example defenders, Spanish full back Alba scoring within 3 minutes at the confederation cup, or Heinz, Argentine defender scoring within 5 minutes at the world cup in 2010
9- as we have mentioned 1000 times, a corner kick or freekick is as good as a penalty for the opposition
10- since 1994 Nigerian teams have always lost by the case of bad defending or a temporary lapse in concentration, recent example when France beat Nigeria 2 nil, that game was going into extra time until Enyeama gifted France an opener

Nothing more to add beyond the following - if an striker opposition striker has had a dry run of goals...he is almost certainly likely to break his duck against Nigeria or you can guarantee that a pub team will give us a run for our money when they have no business doing so....hence a Tahiti will break their duck against us and for spells in a game will make us appear clueless and even go on to score a corner kick against us....

- there is a certain 'arrogance' to our play/way of doing things that makes us believe that 'we will play our own game and why worry about the opposition'.....for it is a stance that we adopt to hide a fundamental flaw of a poor work ethic, lack of attention to details and being simple lazy...we consistently refuse to do our home work and act surprised and angry when found out..

[marutimon]

Some folks on this forum, think backwards. They claim nothing we would have done could have helped us, that the Germans are way better technically. Yet, their coach found it necessary, to sub off the better players and ensure they kept their lead. Yet, the inferior team, that needed to pull a goal back, decided to make only 2 changes, one being a defensive midfielder.
Please, how do you guys rationalize that. Plain stupid.

Too many funny people on CE. If Manu had started that match with 4-2-4 featuring Kele, Success, Yahaya (who is even smaller than the players who featured for us}, we would have been severely slaughtered. The Germans were better today. It was like watching Bayern Munich against errm, Olympiakos or Deportivo La Coruna. Live with it.

Really? That 4-4-2 did pretty well vs Brasil, despite the clueless Ifeanyi giving away balls in midfield and Enaholo gifting goals.

[tunde72]

Brazil will lose

[okidoki]

Mourinho is loosing he pulls off Mikel to put in zuma. That's what your coach did. It's not even close, Manu is a poor coach .

[marko]

That was a game when the coach should have gone for broke and brought in the game changers on the bench, at least in the 80th minute when the Germans were tiring out was the best time, what did he do, brought in a defensive midfielder, ohh m days, talk about the illiteracy of Nigerian coaches

Marko - do you want to summarise the stereotypical Nigerian performance again...summarised by always doing the same thing and expecting to get a different result even when its not clearly working...

- do the long pass..even it does not work....atempt to kick it higher and further and hope for the best

- remember to always lose the ball to the opponent on a regular and consistent basis

- take your time to settle into a game, afterall the first 10 to 15 minutes are not really part of the game...its only for warming up

- throw-ins are an opportunity to pass the ball to your opponent.

- keep trying to thread that 0.5um of a pass when the simpler option will do

- it's not chess so why concentrate....

- our old favourite of defending against set pieces is a complete waste of time...lets just get on with the playing

- oh every free kick or set piece opportunity we have is more likely a chance to reduce the population of beds or to try to injure the opponent by taking out his balls or damaging his chest...the opponents wall is the target..not that space between the wall and the net

- expect the unexpected...even when it is obvious that what you are hoping to happen on the day has really never happened before

you don scout us finish!

we compare notes
1- the quality opposition is more than likely to score within the first 5 minutes if not less at kickoff, seen this happen too many times, our players are still warming up when the opposing team strikes the killer blow
2- The goal keeper never screams at the defence, they are either too timid or expects the defenders to do their job
3- In an event that Nigeria takes the lead, they over celebrate and by the time they have calmed down, the oppostion has put another one past us, seen this too many times
4- The defenders leave too many glaring open spaces for the opposition to exploit, sometimes you see the opposing team getting a few one on one chances with the keeper
5- at the stroke of half time, Nigerian teams are vulnerable to another goal scored by the opposing side
6- The average Nigerian team cannot concentrate for 90 minutes
7- There is an over reliance of individual talent to make up for the short comings of shoody preparation
8- Opposing players who have no business scoring in a football match usually scores against Nigeria, example defenders, Spanish full back Alba scoring within 3 minutes at the confederation cup, or Heinz, Argentine defender scoring within 5 minutes at the world cup in 2010
9- as we have mentioned 1000 times, a corner kick or freekick is as good as a penalty for the opposition
10- since 1994 Nigerian teams have always lost by the case of bad defending or a temporary lapse in concentration, recent example when France beat Nigeria 2 nil, that game was going into extra time until Enyeama gifted France an opener

Nothing more to add beyond the following - if an striker opposition striker has had a dry run of goals...he is almost certainly likely to break his duck against Nigeria or you can guarantee that a pub team will give us a run for our money when they have no business doing so....hence a Tahiti will break their duck against us and for spells in a game will make us appear clueless and even go on to score a corner kick against us....

- there is a certain 'arrogance' to our play/way of doing things that makes us believe that 'we will play our own game and why worry about the opposition'.....for it is a stance that we adopt to hide a fundamental flaw of a poor work ethic, lack of attention to details and being simple lazy...we consistently refuse to do our home work and act surprised and angry when found out..

If you look at Nigerian football and look at the Nigerian government, you cannot separate the 2, every failing in the government, you will see it in their football!!

[ohsee]

Now we can focus on Falcons

Life goes on. A must win game against Australia as Womanbach and the American transgender team will be hard to beat!

Transgender ke? Bros, those Americans are simply good, and you know I do not like Amelika. By the way, excluding Mr. Wambach, and a couple of others, those women are quite attractive.

[Catalyst]

What gulf?

What did Akpoguma do? Go watch the game again. I focused on him specifically because of his link to Nigeria - analyzing every move and decision he made - a few bright spot give & gos but naaaa - he did not cut it for me. Not like say Alaba or Sam. Those are real gems.

Best wishes to him though.

Catalyst,

Did you see any of our players win a one-on-one battle against Akpoguma even when he was tired. I did not. Did you not see Success and Mustapha struggle? Akpoguma looked like a guard on a basketball court who only had to stretch his hand to hold players at bay.

Did you see Musa on both flanks covering ground on both sides of the pitch (how I wish FIFA kept the kilometer covered stats).

Musa was more athletic, made more positive passes, was more inspiring. Akpoguma would slow the game down, often lost on ideas, maybe trying to imitate Yaya Toure, would try to dribble Mustapha to no avail, cannot cross to save his life.....what else did I miss?

Yeah Musa's freekicks could be better - but Germans as a team were not that impressive in this area as well. So what gives?

Musa's crosses and freekicks were poor, but Musa held his own and did well.

that is what I am saying. Musa did not get it done with his freekicks but he shined in other areas.

Again, the Germans corners were poor too. So I guess there is room for both Musa and the Germans to learn to btter FK and CK techniques.

[tunde72]

Urugay keeper not good at saving pena

[hestonap]

That was a game when the coach should have gone for broke and brought in the game changers on the bench, at least in the 80th minute when the Germans were tiring out was the best time, what did he do, brought in a defensive midfielder, ohh m days, talk about the illiteracy of Nigerian coaches

Marko - do you want to summarise the stereotypical Nigerian performance again...summarised by always doing the same thing and expecting to get a different result even when its not clearly working...

- do the long pass..even it does not work....atempt to kick it higher and further and hope for the best

- remember to always lose the ball to the opponent on a regular and consistent basis

- take your time to settle into a game, afterall the first 10 to 15 minutes are not really part of the game...its only for warming up

- throw-ins are an opportunity to pass the ball to your opponent.

- keep trying to thread that 0.5um of a pass when the simpler option will do

- it's not chess so why concentrate....

- our old favourite of defending against set pieces is a complete waste of time...lets just get on with the playing

- oh every free kick or set piece opportunity we have is more likely a chance to reduce the population of beds or to try to injure the opponent by taking out his balls or damaging his chest...the opponents wall is the target..not that space between the wall and the net

- expect the unexpected...even when it is obvious that what you are hoping to happen on the day has really never happened before

you don scout us finish!

Uncle, Na lie I talk?

Until we as Nigerians understand a very somple concept....success and failure are built on fundamental principles.

No system that works comes about by accident but by constantly fine tuning and leaerning from past errors both personal and from others.

You cant keep doing the same thing over and over again and act surprised or angry or just rationalise bette luck next time when $#% blows in your face.

From UPN to NRC to PDP to SDP to APC to IBB to OBJ to GEJ to PMB ...then you act surprised and angry when things dont work?

There surely is a God in heaven, because if na me be God, anytime i see those clowns forming their green ring with their designated aladura in the middle calling my name...i'll be raining sulphur and lightning to disperse their lazy, unintelligent and knwledge hating' asses from my sight...

Nonsense.

[ohsee]

That Germany Nigerian - Akpoguma - has not been that impressive.

there really should be a football iq test developed specifically for this site

Why football IQ? A general test would suffice because the same people yarn opaks everywhere.

[Metho scorpion]

Why didn't yahaya play or even Ihenacho??? Is Manu an imbecile or something? I guess Ihenacho was better of working his way up at Man city, dude was just brought to NZ to warm the bench smh

...bcos he probably would not have done better...
...go see how Brazil won with penalties...
...our name is not written on the cup...
...a better and well prepared team took us out...
...lets go and regroup...