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Donzman wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
My brother criticize Shehu if you are going to but please call a spade a spade in the process. That PK wasn't a penalty. Haba...
It is a penalty, not only did he fall and jump in front of Brahimi, he also reached out with his arm to impede Brahimi's progress.
Watch the video again. We should be willing to tell ourselves the truth and face reality.
Bros, you watch the video again and see what caused Shehu stumbling...
It was Brahimi with a handful of Shehu's shirt at the start of that sequence.
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Cellular wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
Bros, the player did not fall, still had the ball heading towards goal. Ref should've played the advantage. Even Brahimi was surprised at the call.

That's all you need to know.

The player not falling does not mean it's not a penalty, and there is no rule that the ref must play the advantage especially when the foul occurred in the box.

Shehu is a solid player overall but he needs to stop diving in front of the attacker. This is not the first time he has pulled this move. We were lucky others were outside of the box, and it needs to be corrected so we do not cry at the world cup.
Man PLEASE stop excusing what’s not
It’s this type of $#% that makes us Africa the laughing stock of the world
How on earth is that a penalty?
The same nonsense that stupid Ghanaian Ref pulled in SA - Senegal match
That Ref is $#% & DIRTY, and needed to be brought to book
Nonsense
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Cellular wrote:
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Waffiman wrote:
Cellular wrote:I still don't understand Rohr's substitution pattern.

You are playing a dead rubber match and you don't use all your subs? What are you saving them for?

He typically waits too late to make subs...
He did not want to lose. I guess.
If he had lost that game the same people that have been shouting "dead rubber", "meaningless" etc. will be the first to turn on him and he knows that.
How would he have lost the game introducing someone when you are a goal up late in a meaningless match?

See some guys in live action.

So he took a sub home... what for?
If you're happy with the way your team is playing in a competitive game you do not want to lose (because you KNOW you'll face harsh criticism from fickle fans), why change the team?

There is a place for experimentation and that is in friendly games.

He was obviously happy with the way his team was playing so he didn't want to change things. Sometimes you can totally upset the balance of a team with just one sub and they end up losing. Then the coach will get criticized for making THAT substitution. :rotf:
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Had to quit the match mid way through the 2nd half...and just went to watch the highlights of the Alg goal.

To those who say that was a penalty.....UNA COLLECTIVE HEAD NO DEY HOUSE
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Gotti wrote:
Donzman wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
My brother criticize Shehu if you are going to but please call a spade a spade in the process. That PK wasn't a penalty. Haba...
It is a penalty, not only did he fall and jump in front of Brahimi, he also reached out with his arm to impede Brahimi's progress.
Watch the video again. We should be willing to tell ourselves the truth and face reality.
Bros, you watch the video again and see what caused Shehu stumbling...
It was Brahimi with a handful of Shehu's shirt at the start of that sequence.
Donzman needs some serious help...Outside the box, that's no free kick. Inside the box, that's no penalty. When did soccer become basketball...even in basketball, that wouldn't be a foul.
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Bobo Dan wrote:
Donzman wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
Bros, the player did not fall, still had the ball heading towards goal. Ref should've played the advantage. Even Brahimi was surprised at the call.

That's all you need to know.

The player not falling does not mean it's not a penalty, and there is no rule that the ref must play the advantage especially when the foul occurred in the box.

Shehu is a solid player overall but he needs to stop diving in front of the attacker. This is not the first time he has pulled this move. We were lucky others were outside of the box, and it needs to be corrected so we do not cry at the world cup.
Man PLEASE stop excusing what’s not
It’s this type of $#% that makes us Africa the laughing stock of the world
How on earth is that a penalty?
The same nonsense that stupid Ghanaian Ref pulled in SA - Senegal match
That Ref is $#% & DIRTY, and needed to be brought to book
Nonsense
My brother you see say I no even bother again. How this B.S. go stop if we continue to justify it...it really is a damn shame, that is if you ask me smh
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deanotito wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Donzman wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
My brother criticize Shehu if you are going to but please call a spade a spade in the process. That PK wasn't a penalty. Haba...
It is a penalty, not only did he fall and jump in front of Brahimi, he also reached out with his arm to impede Brahimi's progress.
Watch the video again. We should be willing to tell ourselves the truth and face reality.
Bros, you watch the video again and see what caused Shehu stumbling...
It was Brahimi with a handful of Shehu's shirt at the start of that sequence.

Donzman needs some serious help...Outside the box, that's no free kick. Inside the box, that's no penalty. When did soccer become basketball...even in basketball, that wouldn't be a foul.

Post the video, let's analyse it play-by-play.

Falling in front of a player and obstructing his progress is a penalty, any day any time.

If this was the first time Shehu fell in front of a player then we can argue about whether he simply slipped, but it is not.
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mapet wrote:
Rawlings wrote:The referee is very good. That was a clean penalty
He should have shown the defender the red card
See "painment" :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
Rawlings is a relegate, how can that be a red card? :roll:

May be penalty, but red cad?
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That wasn't a penalty , but Shehu positioning was very poor , allowing Brahimi to come inside was a tactical error.

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realtrouble wrote:That wasn't a penalty , but Shehu positioning was very poor , allowing Brahimi to come inside was a tactical error.

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@Donzman, even reviewing the tape in light most favorable to your argument, the contact at the beginning of the play started from just outside the box. No pk either way
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It was not a PK...Donzama no just like Shehu which is okay but because you dey cry no mean say make you no see front now. That wasn't a PK and you know it but oh well ref decision is final...smh
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Are there folks really arguing that that was a genuine penalty. Wow!
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http://www.cafonline.com/en-US/NewsCent ... vAFQ%3d%3d.
11 NOVEMBER 2017 12:08
Yacine Brahimi won and converted a harshly-awarded late penalty to rescue a 1-1 draw for Algeria against already-qualified Nigeria Friday in a World Cup Africa zone Group B dead-rubber.

The Gabonese referee ruled that Abdullahi Shehu fouled Brahimi as he moved into the box in Constantine, but big-screen replays suggested otherwise.

Porto midfielder Brahimi was lucky to still be on the field after escaping with a yellow card for head-butting Shehu 12 minutes from time.
Nigeria went ahead on 62 minutes when John Ogu pounced on a weak clearance by Aissa Mandi and rifled the ball past Faouzi Chaouchi into the roof of the net.

A heated second half that threatened to get out of control at times gave the crowd some cheer after a woeful opening 45 minutes in which Algeria did not have a shot on target.

The final-round qualifier marked the start of a third spell as Algeria coach for 1987 African Footballer of the Year Rabah Madjer.

He would have been disappointed with some of the chances wasted by the "Desert Foxes" with Mandi and Islam Slimani missing second-half "sitters".

The stalemate meant Nigeria finished unbeaten and Algeria winless in the "group of death", which will be completed Saturday when second-place Zambia host Cameroon in Ndola.

Nigeria finished with 14 points, Zambia have seven, Cameroon six, and Algeria just two from a bitterly disappointing campaign after reaching the

last-16 of the 2014 World Cup.
Bosnian coach Vahid Halilhodzic quit soon after the extra-time loss to eventual champions Germany in Brazil, complaining of continuous media criticism.

Madjer is the fifth coach to be put in full-time charge since after Frenchman Christian Gourcoff, Serb Milovan Rajevac, Belgian Georges Leekens and Spaniard Lucas Alcaraz.

Algerian Nabil Neghiz had a short spell as caretaker coach of a team that has plummeted from first to 13th in the FIFA Africa rankings.

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Dunceman you need to stick to another sport... maybe hockey cause you are honestly terrible at analyzing soccer.
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waka-man wrote:Are there folks really arguing that that was a genuine penalty. Wow!
My brother na so we see am oh. Even Algerians on Twitter and whatnot are going in on the ref. They are calling the PK a gift...Here we have our own because of the hatred for the player involved says it is a PK...a damn shame if you ask me smh
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green4life wrote:
realtrouble wrote:That wasn't a penalty , but Shehu positioning was very poor , allowing Brahimi to come inside was a tactical error.

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@Donzman, even reviewing the tape in light most favorable to your argument, the contact at the beginning of the play started from just outside the box. No pk either way
Even their commentator is saying 'hmmmmmmmm' as he watched the replay :rotf:
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Donzman wrote:
deanotito wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Donzman wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Donzman wrote:I do not understand the Shehu shrining and referee bashing. The PK was a penalty. Brahimi staying on his feet does not make it any less so.

If you take some time to watch the Zambia and Cameroon games, you will find that Shehu has a tendency to simply fall in front of his man once he is beaten for pace. This is a dangerous move and this PK should let him know that is not good defending. Stay on your feet and recover. Hopefully he learns before the World Cup because those European teams will know and play for it.

On Ezenwa, the less said the better. Confident outlook but his performance does not justify the confidence he attempts to project.
My brother criticize Shehu if you are going to but please call a spade a spade in the process. That PK wasn't a penalty. Haba...
It is a penalty, not only did he fall and jump in front of Brahimi, he also reached out with his arm to impede Brahimi's progress.
Watch the video again. We should be willing to tell ourselves the truth and face reality.
Bros, you watch the video again and see what caused Shehu stumbling...
It was Brahimi with a handful of Shehu's shirt at the start of that sequence.

Donzman needs some serious help...Outside the box, that's no free kick. Inside the box, that's no penalty. When did soccer become basketball...even in basketball, that wouldn't be a foul.

Post the video, let's analyse it play-by-play.

Falling in front of a player and obstructing his progress is a penalty, any day any time.

If this was the first time Shehu fell in front of a player then we can argue about whether he simply slipped, but it is not.
What about falling behind the player and NOT obstructing them, what do you give for that?
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When the ref failed to send off Brahimi for that headbutt, I had a sinking feeling in my heart that Brahimi would compound the injustice by somehow conjuring an equaliser for Algeria. Sadly I was proved right. As soon as the ref gave that peno, I just stopped watching the game as I was so angry.

I am mentally scarred by the sight of the ref grinning and nodding his head like a bonobo after he awarded the peno.

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