How Guardiola is revolutionizing English football
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The YeyeMan wrote:So you think Pep invented three at the back? This guy!metalalloy wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:Yes, actually.metalalloy wrote:Are you now color blind? That would be the only explanation why you would failed to see what was clearly highlighted in my response. Perhaps you live in an alternate universe where pep coached chelsea, and they won the title last season playing 3 in the back
Try to be clear. Being funny isn't for you.the quote specifically talked about "last season" "chelsea" and "winning"It doesn't mean he revolutionized anything. Last season, Chelsea were the runaway team. They did not revolutionize jack to be winners.
If Pep is what you deduce after reading all that, being "color blind" is the least of your problems
i give up on you.
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
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Please don't "think" too hard. We wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.balo wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:So you think Pep invented three at the back? This guy!metalalloy wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:Yes, actually.metalalloy wrote:Are you now color blind? That would be the only explanation why you would failed to see what was clearly highlighted in my response. Perhaps you live in an alternate universe where pep coached chelsea, and they won the title last season playing 3 in the back
Try to be clear. Being funny isn't for you.the quote specifically talked about "last season" "chelsea" and "winning"It doesn't mean he revolutionized anything. Last season, Chelsea were the runaway team. They did not revolutionize jack to be winners.
If Pep is what you deduce after reading all that, being "color blind" is the least of your problems
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I think Conte "invented" 3 at the back. Says Metalalloy
After you learn the difference between "invent" and "revolutionize," keeping in mind the topic being discussed, then answer the following:
Before Conte's arrival, how many teams in the EPL played with three in the back on a consistent basis?
After his arrival and this season, how many team in the EPL play with three in the back?
This one is difficulty level "easy".
Here is some light reading for you
This is a significant revolution: No Premier League champion has ever used a three-man defence on a regular basis, and the system had essentially died out around five years ago. There's been a brief resurgence since, but it was incredible to see, two weekends ago, no fewer than eight of the 20 Premier League sides using a back three.
http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/chelsea ... an-defence
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ble-forma/
https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2017/1/ ... te-chelsea
Feel free to keep on making up quotes on what Metalalloy "thinks" . Perhaps i wrote all those articles above back in 2017 in anticipation of this debate
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
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Re: How Guardiola is revolutionizing English football
Good for Wigan, bad for the rest of the league.balo wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:Chelsea were the run away leaders last year because with no champions league football they only had to focus on the league.balo wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:But they revolutionized against the vast majority of the teams they played so far this season and are 16 points clear and a trophy in the bag. Just saying.balo wrote:He couldn't revolutionize against Wigan. Just saying!
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It doesn't mean he revolutionized anything. Last season, Chelsea were the runaway team. They did not revolutionize jack to be winners.
This season, a lot of things fell favorably for Pep.
Liverpool with defensive woes.
Man U with injury woes
Chelsea - penny-pinching and a knuckle-head coach
Arsenal - lost the plot with Wenger
Man C - buying right.
SPURS - Injuries (Wanyama and Alderw....)
Remove all the indices above and the league becomes tighter. I am not saying Pep is a bad coach, but he didn't revo anything.
The rest of the excuses you listed aren't Pep and Man City's problems. They have been the best team so far this campaign and the league table proves it.
Pep is such a revolutionary, he wasn't part of the EPL last season.
He should be winning the EPL for the next few seasons until he moves on.
Unless Wigan makes it to the EPL.
16 points clear, remember that.
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metalalloy wrote:Please don't "think" too hard. We wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.balo wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:So you think Pep invented three at the back? This guy!metalalloy wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:Yes, actually.metalalloy wrote:Are you now color blind? That would be the only explanation why you would failed to see what was clearly highlighted in my response. Perhaps you live in an alternate universe where pep coached chelsea, and they won the title last season playing 3 in the back
Try to be clear. Being funny isn't for you.the quote specifically talked about "last season" "chelsea" and "winning"It doesn't mean he revolutionized anything. Last season, Chelsea were the runaway team. They did not revolutionize jack to be winners.
If Pep is what you deduce after reading all that, being "color blind" is the least of your problems
http://www.lmgt.com/?q=what+is+the+diff ... tionize%22+
I think Conte "invented" 3 at the back. Says Metalalloy
After you learn the difference between "invent" and "revolutionize," keeping in mind the topic being discussed, then answer the following:
Before Conte's arrival, how many teams in the EPL played with three in the back on a consistent basis?
After his arrival and this season, how many team in the EPL play with three in the back?
This one is difficulty level "easy".
Here is some light reading for you
This is a significant revolution: No Premier League champion has ever used a three-man defence on a regular basis, and the system had essentially died out around five years ago. There's been a brief resurgence since, but it was incredible to see, two weekends ago, no fewer than eight of the 20 Premier League sides using a back three.
http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/chelsea ... an-defence
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ble-forma/
https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2017/1/ ... te-chelsea
Feel free to keep on making up quote that Metalalloy "thinks" . Perhaps i wrote all those articles above back in 2017 in anticipation of this debate
Necessity is the mother of invention. After Conte got black-eyed by Wenger and Klopp (2 weeks in a row), he had to dig deep to avoid being punched around and tried a "dying system" in the EPL which worked. Conte got the credit, but not the players who busted their behinds to make that system work for them.
He had under his tutelage, the players that won the league 2 seasons prior to him becoming Chelsea coach. Winners all of them.
That revolution died a quick death this season for Conte himself. Then he tried to "revolutionize" the 3-5-2 which so far has been a failure. A trial-by-error revolution without much of a backbone.
If tomorrow, he goes back to Chelsea's former 4-3-3, some of you will say he revolutionize the system.
Maybe he should ask Moringho for tips on how to "revolutionize" the use of in-match subs.
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Re: How Guardiola is revolutionizing English football
How many records will be standing by season end
Highest point ever?
Highest goals scored
Highest goal difference?
Highest point ever?
Highest goals scored
Highest goal difference?
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City are currently "revolutionizing" the arse of the Arse.
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The season isn't over yet.Kaiser1 wrote:How many records will be standing by season end
Highest point ever?
Highest goals scored
Highest goal difference?
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Not even the Tin Man knows what he's saying.balo wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:So you think Pep invented three at the back? This guy!metalalloy wrote:The YeyeMan wrote:Yes, actually.metalalloy wrote:Are you now color blind? That would be the only explanation why you would failed to see what was clearly highlighted in my response. Perhaps you live in an alternate universe where pep coached chelsea, and they won the title last season playing 3 in the back
Try to be clear. Being funny isn't for you.the quote specifically talked about "last season" "chelsea" and "winning"It doesn't mean he revolutionized anything. Last season, Chelsea were the runaway team. They did not revolutionize jack to be winners.
If Pep is what you deduce after reading all that, being "color blind" is the least of your problems
I think Conte "invented" 3 at the back. Says Metalalloy
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Always funny when I hear people say this. Yes he has spent his way to this victory but lets keep in mind that Mourinho has spent only 80mil (net) less than Pep but look and the golf in football and dominance.charlie wrote:Any coach can win big trophies if they have a blank check to buy the best players in the world.
I say only 80 mil because in today's market, 80 mil is 1 player max 2 and United are definitely not 2 players away from being as dominate as City.
For years I have always said what barca and Madrid do in la liga can be done in the EPL but the tfcos and EPL fanboys said nonsense, arguing that la liga is just useless well now they are seeing the light.
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cic old boy wrote:City are currently "revolutionizing" the arse of the Arse.
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cic old boy wrote:City are currently "revolutionizing" the arse of the Arse.
Wenger already revolutionized that.... ask Waffi if you don't believe me. He has stats to prove it. Where was Pep when Wenger determined that 10 field players and a GK are required to play effective football?
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bonecrusher wrote:Always funny when I hear people say this. Yes he has spent his way to this victory but lets keep in mind that Mourinho has spent only 80mil (net) less than Pep but look and the golf in football and dominance.charlie wrote:Any coach can win big trophies if they have a blank check to buy the best players in the world.
I say only 80 mil because in today's market, 80 mil is 1 player max 2 and United are definitely not 2 players away from being as dominate as City.
For years I have always said what barca and Madrid do in la liga can be done in the EPL but the tfcos and EPL fanboys said nonsense, arguing that la liga is just useless well now they are seeing the light.
Other than Leicester (major kudos to Leicester management and Ranieri btw,...oh and Maurizo Sarri in Napoli...major kudos), money buys you trophies in Europe.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
When Guardiola eventually gets fired and decides to coach Wigan, and takes them to a champions league quarter final (forget final self), then I will throway salut.
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When he had similar lead in Germany and Spain, was he also revolutionizing the Bundesliga & La Liga?Mr. Piffington wrote:But they revolutionized against the vast majority of the teams they played so far this season and are 16 points clear and a trophy in the bag. Just saying.balo wrote:He couldn't revolutionize against Wigan. Just saying!
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So, where and when did Barca and Madrid do what they did in La Liga in the EPL or are you saying Pep = Barca? And if Pep = Barca, who is Madrid? Jose or Ancelloti?bonecrusher wrote:Always funny when I hear people say this. Yes he has spent his way to this victory but lets keep in mind that Mourinho has spent only 80mil (net) less than Pep but look and the golf in football and dominance.charlie wrote:Any coach can win big trophies if they have a blank check to buy the best players in the world.
I say only 80 mil because in today's market, 80 mil is 1 player max 2 and United are definitely not 2 players away from being as dominate as City.
For years I have always said what barca and Madrid do in la liga can be done in the EPL but the tfcos and EPL fanboys said nonsense, arguing that la liga is just useless well now they are seeing the light.
And, are you also saying that going by your logic, Man City can also do this 16 points gap in Spain with Pep?
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When you can beat a useless club like Arsenal senseless with toothpick in your mouth, of course you will be seen as a revolutionary!
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That should mean Conte is Juventus and Serie A came and wiped the floor with EPL last season, title was all but wrapped up with many games to goanointed wrote:So, where and when did Barca and Madrid do what they did in La Liga in the EPL or are you saying Pep = Barca? And if Pep = Barca, who is Madrid? Jose or Ancelloti?bonecrusher wrote:Always funny when I hear people say this. Yes he has spent his way to this victory but lets keep in mind that Mourinho has spent only 80mil (net) less than Pep but look and the golf in football and dominance.charlie wrote:Any coach can win big trophies if they have a blank check to buy the best players in the world.
I say only 80 mil because in today's market, 80 mil is 1 player max 2 and United are definitely not 2 players away from being as dominate as City.
For years I have always said what barca and Madrid do in la liga can be done in the EPL but the tfcos and EPL fanboys said nonsense, arguing that la liga is just useless well now they are seeing the light.
And, are you also saying that going by your logic, Man City can also do this 16 points gap in Spain with Pep?
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City is doing it without Messi Xavi and Iniesta. Imagine if they had Messi alonebonecrusher wrote:Always funny when I hear people say this. Yes he has spent his way to this victory but lets keep in mind that Mourinho has spent only 80mil (net) less than Pep but look and the golf in football and dominance.
I say only 80 mil because in today's market, 80 mil is 1 player max 2 and United are definitely not 2 players away from being as dominate as City.
For years I have always said what barca and Madrid do in la liga can be done in the EPL but the tfcos and EPL fanboys said nonsense, arguing that la liga is just useless well now they are seeing the light.
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Can some one tell me how many points max has any team had in EPL win crown Champs?
Also the highest points gap to second place?
Did Jose in one of his forst two season that he won EPL get 100 points?
Also the highest points gap to second place?
Did Jose in one of his forst two season that he won EPL get 100 points?
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I think the highest points total was 95 points and that was Chelsea during the 04/05 season.kajifu wrote:Can some one tell me how many points max has any team had in EPL win crown Champs?
Also the highest points gap to second place?
Did Jose in one of his forst two season that he won EPL get 100 points?
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All I will state is that Ayoakinfe has not come across this thread just yet. I thought that Ayo was the guy who invented the back three since 15 years or so ago. So does that mean he is better than the EPL coaches?
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Re: How Guardiola is revolutionizing English football
Jose smashed a couple of EPL records in his first season.kajifu wrote:Can some one tell me how many points max has any team had in EPL win crown Champs?
Also the highest points gap to second place?
Did Jose in one of his forst two season that he won EPL get 100 points?
Let us list them here:
Most away wins in a season (15)
Most clean sheets kept in a season (25).
Fewest goals conceded away in a season (9).
Most wins in a season (29).
Most consecutive away wins (9).
Fewest goals conceded in a season (15).
Most points in a season (95).
Pep will also break some records on his second attempt at EPL, but such breaking of records will be nothing new as we've seen Chelsea do it before.
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I await this summer's transfer window with abated breath. What will he buy this time and how much??
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