John Obi Mikel: Development

[Football Manager]

Lyn Oslo and Man United are both agreesively lobbying the advisors of John Obi Mikel to have a rethink of their decision. To this effect an extension has been requested and granted by the DRC. This does NOT mean he has accepted to move to Man United. No further comments from my side on this info.

When you say an extension has been granted, do you know when Fifa's Disputes Resolution Committee will rule on the matter?

Ayo,
If I am allowed to speculate I will say the ruling will come up in February or March 2006.

[Ayo Akinfe]

Ayo,
If I am allowed to speculate I will say the ruling will come up in February or March 2006.

What will happen to the boy in the interim? This is ruining his career. What he needs is this matter resolved now so he can move in the January transfer window!

[Football Manager]

Lyn Oslo and Man United are both agreesively lobbying the advisors of John Obi Mikel to have a rethink of their decision. To this effect an extension has been requested and granted by the DRC. This does NOT mean he has accepted to move to Man United. No further comments from my side on this info.

FM you can't come up with such a vague and ambiguous info and rule out any further elaboration on it. You sure know you have triggered off another bout of questions and conjectures.

(1) Who are Obi's advisor(s) that are been lobbied, Shittu?
(2) Can Lyn and Man U ask and be granted an extension to the ruling?
(3) Did Obi's party to the logjam agree to this strange request of extension?
(4) Does this latest frantic move by Lyn and Man U mean a subtle acceptance of defeat in the case?

Please pardon my ignorant questions, but I do care.

1) If you have followed my posts you should know Obi's advisors.
2) I will not answer this question.
3) I will not answer this question.
4) Both Man United and Lyn Oslo were INFORMALLY informed that they have no case against Obi since the later posited that he signed in error. Lyn Oslo was also informally told that they erred by instructing their personal lawyer to terminate the contract between Obi and his advisor which was approved by FIFA relevant authorities.

I mean to write
a) He was pressured by Lyn Oslo management to sign for Man United
b) They (Lyn Oslo management) informed him (Obi) that the contract they negotiated for him was an EXCELLENT one.
c) That Chelsea FC is no longer interested to have him.

[bushboy]

What are you talking about? You're about as credible as Samuel Eto'o at a homophobe convention.

Lyn Oslo and Man United are both agreesively lobbying the advisors of John Obi Mikel to have a rethink of their decision. To this effect an extension has been requested and granted by the DRC. This does NOT mean he has accepted to move to Man United. No further comments from my side on this info.

FM you can't come up with such a vague and ambiguous info and rule out any further elaboration on it. You sure know you have triggered off another bout of questions and conjectures.

(1) Who are Obi's advisor(s) that are been lobbied, Shittu?
(2) Can Lyn and Man U ask and be granted an extension to the ruling?
(3) Did Obi's party to the logjam agree to this strange request of extension?
(4) Does this latest frantic move by Lyn and Man U mean a subtle acceptance of defeat in the case?

Please pardon my ignorant questions, but I do care.

1) If you have followed my posts you should know Obi's advisors.
2) I will not answer this question.
3) I will not answer this question.
4) Both Man United and Lyn Oslo were INFORMALLY informed that they have no case against Obi since the later posited that he signed in error. Lyn Oslo was also informally told that they erred by instructing their personal lawyer to terminate the contract between Obi and his advisor which was approved by FIFA relevant authorities.

I mean to write
a) He was pressured by Lyn Oslo management to sign for Man United
b) They (Lyn Oslo management) informed him (Obi) that the contract they negotiated for him was an EXCELLENT one.
c) That Chelsea FC is no longer interested to have him.

[Ziontrain]

Lyn Oslo and Man United are both agreesively lobbying the advisors of John Obi Mikel to have a rethink of their decision. To this effect an extension has been requested and granted by the DRC. This does NOT mean he has accepted to move to Man United. No further comments from my side on this info.

When you say an extension has been granted, do you know when Fifa's Disputes Resolution Committee will rule on the matter?

Ayo, If I am allowed to speculate I will say the ruling will come up in February or March 2006.

Why the sudden formality? Every post of yours on this topic is either speculation or outright propaganda...

[Enugu II]

It seems to me that Football Manager's post does not advance this case much further. Instead, it seems that the only possible outcome remains Mikel going to Man. Utd with a dim possibility that United wants out because of Obi's attitude. Those, in my opinion, are the only logical possibilities as it remains unlikely that FIFA would rule that Obi goes to Chelsea (That will NOT happen except there is some other info not yet mentioned in the press). In any case, it is certainly important that Lyn officials talk with Obi, now or in the near future, to assure United that Obi is willing to make the move as a "Happy camper." That is the only reason I will find for the talks reported by FM if such talks took place.

[Spy]

Football Manager, is your name Mr. Shittu by any chance?

[Football Manager]

It seems to me that Football Manager's post does not advance this case much further. Instead, it seems that the only possible outcome remains Mikel going to Man. Utd with a dim possibility that United wants out because of Obi's attitude. Those, in my opinion, are the only logical possibilities as it remains unlikely that FIFA would rule that Obi goes to Chelsea (That will NOT happen except there is some other info not yet mentioned in the press). In any case, it is certainly important that Lyn officials talk with Obi, now or in the near future, to assure United that Obi is willing to make the move as a "Happy camper." That is the only reason I will find for the talks reported by FM if such talks took place.

Enugu II,
I dont understand you! It was widely reported that the decision will be made in October 2005. I have brought an information EXCLUSIVE TO CE to let you ALL know that decision will not come up in October 2005. This is NOT speculation but a statement of fact.

Ayo Akinfe requested for a possible time frame and I wrote based on the information at my disposal that I feel the decision will be made in February or March 2006. This aspect of timing of the case you can tag a speculation but NOT the information at my disposal.

I can tell you AUTHORITATIVELY that the decision will be in Mikel favours. PRICISELY THAT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN JOHN OBI MIKEL AND MAN UNITED WILL BE DECLARED NULL AND VOID.

Please put in your stake in this issue if you are a man of integrity.

[erikga]

Football Manager wrote:

I mean to write
a) He was pressured by Lyn Oslo management to sign for Man United
b) They (Lyn Oslo management) informed him (Obi) that the contract they negotiated for him was an EXCELLENT one.
c) That Chelsea FC is no longer interested to have him.

a)... And the proof for this is....?... This claim has been disproved so many times already.
b) So what...?... It was...
c) That is probably the only truthful thing in your posts...

As for your claim that the DRC decision will be postponed, I find that highly improbable. But if that is case, the contract between Lyn, ManUtd and Obi will have to be honored in the meantime and Obi will have to turn up at ManUtd on Jan 1, 2006.

Erik G

[taper]

I can tell you AUTHORITATIVELY that the decision will be in Mikel favours. PRICISELY THAT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN JOHN OBI MIKEL AND MAN UNITED IS DECLARED NULL AND VOID.

How can you be sure? I take it you're not part of the resolution chamber?

Even Blatter himself probably doesnt decide six months in advance. And given this is such a clear-cut case in your opinion, why doesnt the chamber release the verdict as planned?

[Football Manager]

Football Manager wrote:

I mean to write
a) He was pressured by Lyn Oslo management to sign for Man United
b) They (Lyn Oslo management) informed him (Obi) that the contract they negotiated for him was an EXCELLENT one.
c) That Chelsea FC is no longer interested to have him.

a)... And the proof for this is....?... This claim has been disproved so many times already.
b) So what...?... It was...
c) That is probably the only truthful thing in your posts...

As for your claim that the DRC decision will be postponed, I find that highly improbable. But if that is case, the contract between Lyn, ManUtd and Obi will have to be honored in the meantime and Obi will have to turn up at ManUtd on Jan 1, 2006.

Erik G

a) You are blinded with the truth. The proof is Lyn Oslo failing to tie Mikel to a lengthy contract used her personal lawyer to terminate a contract that Mikel had with his advisors. Then they went ahead to seal a contract less than a week he signed a contract with Lyn Oslo. If you do not think that as being pressured then it is a FRAUD! Go and check the meaning of fraud in the dictionary and you will be surprised that it gives an EXACT definition of your beloved club Lyn Oslo.

[omey2k4]

tHERE IS NO USE FOR aRGUEMENTS,AM A Man-U fan and he is coming to Old Traffoed in January.

[Football Manager]

I can tell you AUTHORITATIVELY that the decision will be in Mikel favours. PRICISELY THAT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN JOHN OBI MIKEL AND MAN UNITED IS DECLARED NULL AND VOID.

How can you be sure? I take it you're not part of the resolution chamber?

Even Blatter himself probably doesnt decide six months in advance. And given this is such a clear-cut case in your opinion, why doesnt the chamber release the verdict as planned?

I wrote authoritatively BECAUSE I am 100 percent certain of the decision of the DRC. You can quote me in the future when the decision is made public.

[Football Manager]

tHERE IS NO USE FOR aRGUEMENTS,AM A Man-U fan and he is coming to Old Traffoed in January.

Omey2k4,
I would like him to play for your club but that would be a decision for him after the contract must have officially declared NULL and VOID.

[erikga]

To Football Manager

a) You are blinded with the truth. The proof is Lyn Oslo failing to tie Mikel to a lengthy contract used her personal lawyer to terminate a contract that Mikel had with his advisors. Then they went ahead to seal a contract less than a week he signed a contract with Lyn Oslo. If you do not think that as being pressured then it is a FRAUD! Go and check the meaning of fraud in the dictionary and you will be surprised that it gives an EXACT definition of your beloved club Lyn Oslo.

I agree with your compatriots' postings' higher up in this thread, you are simply getting desperate... You need to look up the meaning of the word "proof" . What you offer is simply your own incoherent opinions.

If you think the shorter length of the contract is "proof" of Obi being pressured into a contract, I have news for you - there are more that one party to a contract. Even if Obi wanted a longer contract, Lyn and ManUtd may not have...

As for your statement that Obi signed a contract with ManUtd less than a week after signing with Lyn, that may be what Obi wanted - to get away from the syndicate claiming to own him.

As for you claim of "fraud" - what I hear is simply somebody who is angry of being cut out of a deal - or being afraid of having to answer to his employers for not being able to deliver Obi into the hands of Chelsea.

Mr Shittu was outwitted by Obi, ManUtd and Lyn, accept that and move on!

Erik G

[Ayo Akinfe]

FM, you appear very confident of your position. However, I would like this matter sorted out before the end of the year, so Obi can move in the January transfer window!

[erikga]

Football Manager wrote:

I wrote authoritatively BECAUSE I am 100 percent certain of the decision of the DRC. You can quote me in the future when the decision is made public.

Oh, you are 100 percent certain.... Wow, that is the most convincing proof I have ever heard

Erik G

[Football Manager]

To Football Manager

a) You are blinded with the truth. The proof is Lyn Oslo failing to tie Mikel to a lengthy contract used her personal lawyer to terminate a contract that Mikel had with his advisors. Then they went ahead to seal a contract less than a week he signed a contract with Lyn Oslo. If you do not think that as being pressured then it is a FRAUD! Go and check the meaning of fraud in the dictionary and you will be surprised that it gives an EXACT definition of your beloved club Lyn Oslo.

I agree with your compatriots' postings' higher up in this thread, you are simply getting desperate... You need to look up the meaning of the word "proof" . What you offer is simply your own incoherent opinions.

If you think the shorter length of the contract is "proof" of Obi being pressured into a contract, I have news for you - there are more that one party to a contract. Even if Obi wanted a longer contract, Lyn and ManUtd may not have...

As for your statement that Obi signed a contract with ManUtd less than a week after signing with Lyn, that may be what Obi wanted - to get away from the syndicate claiming to own him.

As for you claim of "fraud" - what I hear is simply somebody who is angry of being cut out of a deal - or being afraid of having to answer to his employers for not being able to deliver Obi into the hands of Chelsea.

Mr Shittu was outwitted by Obi, ManUtd and Lyn, accept that and move on!

Erik G

Lyn Oslo proposed a four year deal for Mikel Obi but his advisors refused and even told Lyn Oslo that Mikel is leaving if they refused to accept 18months. They accepted and quickly used it against his advisors. It is sad that many of you Lyn Oslo supporters cannot see beyond your nose.

[erikga]

Football Manager wrote:

Lyn Oslo proposed a four year deal for Mikel Obi but his advisors refused and even told Lyn Oslo that Mikel is leaving if they refused to accept 18months.

So what you are saying is that Lyn proposed a four year deal, Mr Shittu forced Lyn and ManUtd to accept 18 months? I think you are making Lyn/ManUtds case here...

They accepted and quickly used it against his advisors.

As they say here in the UK - hard cheese..!..

Erik G

[Football Manager]

Football Manager wrote:

Lyn Oslo proposed a four year deal for Mikel Obi but his advisors refused and even told Lyn Oslo that Mikel is leaving if they refused to accept 18months.

So what you are saying is that Lyn proposed a four year deal, Mr Shittu forced Lyn and ManUtd to accept 18 months? I think you are making Lyn/ManUtds case here...

They accepted and quickly used it against his advisors.

As they say here in the UK - hard cheese..!..

Erik G

Please read in context! I am writing about the contract Mikel Obi signed with Lyn Oslo. Lyn Oslo wanted him to have a four year deal with them but his advisors insisted on 18months, though they finally accepted 20months otherwise Obi would have left Lyn Oslo with an official contract. I am not refering here to the purported contract signed between Mikel Obi and Man United. It was because his advisors insisted on short term deal with no room for negotiation led Lyn Oslo management to deal ruthlessly with his advisors. Now we know they did not clean their tracks properly which would hurt them as long football is played on planet Earth.

[Enugu II]

It seems to me that Football Manager's post does not advance this case much further. Instead, it seems that the only possible outcome remains Mikel going to Man. Utd with a dim possibility that United wants out because of Obi's attitude. Those, in my opinion, are the only logical possibilities as it remains unlikely that FIFA would rule that Obi goes to Chelsea (That will NOT happen except there is some other info not yet mentioned in the press). In any case, it is certainly important that Lyn officials talk with Obi, now or in the near future, to assure United that Obi is willing to make the move as a "Happy camper." That is the only reason I will find for the talks reported by FM if such talks took place.

Enugu II,
I dont understand you! It was widely reported that the decision will be made in October 2005. I have brought an information EXCLUSIVE TO CE to let you ALL know that decision will not come up in October 2005. This is NOT speculation but a statement of fact.

Ayo Akinfe requested for a possible time frame and I wrote based on the information at my disposal that I feel the decision will be made in February or March 2006. This aspect of timing of the case you can tag a speculation but NOT the information at my disposal.

I can tell you AUTHORITATIVELY that the decision will be in Mikel favours. PRICISELY THAT THE CONTRACT BETWEEN JOHN OBI MIKEL AND MAN UNITED WILL BE DECLARED NULL AND VOID.

Please put in your stake in this issue if you are a man of integrity.

Football Manager:

The change in timing is not significant, for me (I acknowledge that it is for the player and clubs), if that is infact correct. My focus is the calculation of possible outcome of the ruling. You seem extremely confident about the outcome and I must say it is an outcome that appears to me to be implausible. I am not sure where your confidence comes from but I am willing to accede to you the possibility that you may have information that is not readily obtainable in the press, particularly if you are an insider as you claim.

If, however, your information is based on matters already discussed in the press or on this site then I must say that your confidence may well be misplaced. All the information that I have read so far on this case, including those put forward by you on this site, point to the upholding of the Lyn-Man Utd contract. FIFA has very little choice, particularly if it hopes for its rules to be respected and sancrosanct in the future. I just cannot see any other way this can be ruled by FIFA. Where, reallly, is the technicality that can provide the window for an alternative ruling?

In my opinion, Lyn and Utd merely need to work through other parties (besides Shittu) to convince Obi to go on with this deal. Afterwards, Obi may consider (and I believe he should) to compensate/reimburse Shittu, in reasonable terms, in order to avoid potential unpleasantries.

[Ayo Akinfe]

Football Manager:

The change in timing is not significant, for me (I acknowledge that it is for the player and clubs), if that is infact correct. My focus is the calculation of possible outcome of the ruling. You seem extremely confident about the outcome and I must say it is an outcome that appears to me to be implausible. I am not sure where your confidence comes from but I am willing to accede to you the possibility that you may have information that is not readily obtainable in the press, particularly if you are an insider as you claim.

If, however, your information is based on matters already discussed in the press or on this site then I must say that your confidence may well be misplaced. All the information that I have read so far on this case, including those put forward by you on this site, point to the upholding of the Lyn-Man Utd contract. FIFA has very little choice, particularly if it hopes for its rules to be respected and sancrosanct in the future. I just cannot see any other way this can be ruled by FIFA. Where, reallly, is the technicality that can provide the window for an alternative ruling?

In my opinion, Lyn and Utd merely need to work through other parties (besides Shittu) to convince Obi to go on with this deal. Afterwards, Obi may consider (and I believe he should) to compensate/reimburse Shittu, in reasonable terms, in order to avoid potential unpleasantries.

All I will say is that if Obi can prove that he signed the Man U contract under duress, he has a case. Whether he can do that is another matter, however.

[Football Manager]

FM, you appear very confident of your position. However, I would like this matter sorted out before the end of the year, so Obi can move in the January transfer window!

There are strong moves for the official decision to be made public between third week of November and second week of December. But a group of some powerful football operators don't want everything to favour Mikel hence they wanted him to remain until Summer before he could move. My thinking of February/March 2006 for the decision to be made official was based on this later group of football operators way of reasoning.