NIGERIA FALCONS 0 VS 1 SPAIN OLYMPICS 2024 full time

[Gotti]

I watched the game on discovery+ and both commentators said if only Nigeria could hold the ball/retain possession instead of just shooting forward.

You start by selecting players and building a team that can retain possession. This stuff isn’t matchday happenstance!

[txj]

Spain could've had 100 chances and it would be expected, so that is an irrelevant point! They are the world champions.

The issue is being efficient with the chances you got.

A team that created the number and quality of chances we had, should be doing better...

If a team carved out 100 chances against your team, it’s “irrelevant”?!

Sadly the sort of Pretzel logic folks twist themselves into to maintain their WOWO subscription.

Its irrelevant because they did not take them.

The two Spanish papers Marca and Mundodeportivo described them as sterile...

What is relevant is how many chances you took.

Which is the overall point of my comment...

[txj]

That's Randy formation.

I'm curious. What did you expect us to do against Spain the world champs?

I expect us to win. I understand, everyone mindset is different.

That's not the question I asked you.

How did you expect us to go about getting a win against Spain?

I expect us to put the ball in the net.

Which is exactly our primary failure in this game, NOT the tactics of conceding possession and playing in a low block...

We don't know. Please educate us.

You've been on CE for the better part of a decade and its clear you are incapable of learning...
It is what it is bro...

[Gotti]

Randy has done excellent work with the Super Falcons' defense, but it's time for him to step down after the Olympics. It's clear that the team lacks effective counterattacking skills and know-how. We need a new coach who can enhance the team's capabilities in both defense and offense.

I partially agree but when your forwards make the wrong decision time after time, do we still look at the coach?

Of course we do…
If a coach cannot replace (even correct) players who make “wrong decisions” WTF is he there for?! SMH

[davidbam14]

Randy has done excellent work with the Super Falcons' defense, but it's time for him to step down after the Olympics. It's clear that the team lacks effective counterattacking skills and know-how. We need a new coach who can enhance the team's capabilities in both defense and offense.

I partially agree but when your forwards make the wrong decision time after time, do we still look at the coach?

Seems you only started following Randy reign as SF coach.

I had no idea of Randy's work until he became SF coach and it's possible it's not giving our girls the best part way for success but whenever we use our pace to get clear we need to be clinical.

[txj]

So are you saying we can't have a go at Spain because they are the world champions????

There is no team in the world today that plays openly against Spain

We don't have to be open, just have good ball control and the calmness to pick the right pass.

Easy to say especially if one is sitting at home and enjoying the game with some beverages...

But the game is played under pressure and against a superior opponent, which Spain are, the important thing is about being effective, not how well or calm you look...

You're very funny, is there any game not played under pressure????

If you recognize that then how do you explain your comments "just have good ball control and the calmness to pick the right pass".

You think they didn't have good control and calm passing in the game?

If you do then you must have watched a different game...

I watched the game on discovery+ and both commentators said if only Nigeria could hold the ball/retain possession instead of just shooting forward.

"Just shooting forward" created 4 first class chances for the team.

For a team whose primary tactic was not focused on possession but sitting back and countering, that is pretty good performance, even if the result was not good.

[davidbam14]

I watched the game on discovery+ and both commentators said if only Nigeria could hold the ball/retain possession instead of just shooting forward.

You start by selecting players and building a team that can retain possession. This stuff isn’t matchday happenstance!

Unfortunately we don't have those kind of players and it's sad because we are over 200M strong and nobody seems to know where to find them.

[fabio]

I'm curious. What did you expect us to do against Spain the world champs?

I expect us to win. I understand, everyone mindset is different.

That's not the question I asked you.

How did you expect us to go about getting a win against Spain?

I expect us to put the ball in the net.

Which is exactly our primary failure in this game, NOT the tactics of conceding possession and playing in a low block...

We don't know. Please educate us.

You've been on CE for the better part of a decade and its clear you are incapable of learning...
It is what it is bro...

Asking for an education is equal to incapable of learning. Ok, Mr, after the fact.

[Gotti]

Unfortunately we don't have those kind of players and it's sad because we are over 200M strong and nobody seems to know where to find them.

Abegi, all of our youth female teams dominate possession…
Players like Amanda Mbadi, even Peace Efih and Onyenezide (let’s leave out Suliat Abideen) play good possession football.

[davidbam14]

I'm hoping our basketball ladies come good tomorrow morning...... Commonnnn D'tigress

[davidbam14]

Unfortunately we don't have those kind of players and it's sad because we are over 200M strong and nobody seems to know where to find them.

Abegi, all of our youth female teams dominate possession…
Players like Amanda Mbadi, even Peace Efih and Onyenezide (let’s leave out Suliat Abideen) play good possession football.

So why are they not here?

[txj]

Unfortunately we don't have those kind of players and it's sad because we are over 200M strong and nobody seems to know where to find them.

Abegi, all of our youth female teams dominate possession…
Players like Amanda Mbadi, even Peace Efih and Onyenezide (let’s leave out Suliat Abideen) play good possession football.

And based on that you expect our senior female team to similarly dominate possession?

[wiseone]

This will be a bloodbath. If we can keep it under 3 goals, it will be well done.

[ohenhen1]

So js Nigeria out?

What is the plan for the future?

[ohenhen1]

Unfortunately we don't have those kind of players and it's sad because we are over 200M strong and nobody seems to know where to find them.

Abegi, all of our youth female teams dominate possession…
Players like Amanda Mbadi, even Peace Efih and Onyenezide (let’s leave out Suliat Abideen) play good possession football.

So why are they not here?

Because everything foreign is good. They wanted their WOWO coach and his style of football. It was a waste of money and time. They should have kept the local coach.

[jette1]

Randy has done excellent work with the Super Falcons' defense, but it's time for him to step down after the Olympics. It's clear that the team lacks effective counterattacking skills and know-how. We need a new coach who can enhance the team's capabilities in both defense and offense.

I partially agree but when your forwards make the wrong decision time after time, do we still look at the coach?

Seems you only started following Randy reign as SF coach.

yea lets get Finidi to replace him; How did Rohr and Poseiro exit work for you

[ohenhen1]

Nigeria has been having problems scoring goals.

Nigeria 3 Australia 2
Nigeria 0 England 0
Nigeria 1 Canada 1
Nigeria 1 South Africa 0
South Africa 0 Nigeria 0

It started at Afcon in Morocco. I had my concerns. You were saying the defensive record is good.

[Bell]

MY OBSERVATIONS

(1) Spain had too many chances to cash in on only one goal. They were very good at passing, partly because the Falcons seemed to prefer to "give them the shot" rather than pressure them. I thought more highly of the Spaniards whom I'd picked to win it all.
(2) The Falcons limited their own opportunities by always trying to pass out of the backfield, eventually losing possession midway, instead of using, when appropriate, long passes.
(3) The one passing, and the one receiving the pass, need to work more to be on the same proverbial page and bring more coherence to the passing game.
(4) Ajibade is a real player and would be nice if they can find someone to play with her while she's in her prime.

All in all, theis match shows once again how far the Falcons have come. Before anyone forgets, Spain are the reigning WC champions and the match was in their backyard. Not too long ago, this matchup would have been a laugher.

Finally, the Falcons haven't been playing this "modern soccer" of playing out of the backfield. I hope the coach sees the futility of it and does what works rather than what "everybody is doing".
Bell

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

So js Nigeria out?

What is the plan for the future?

They have a slim chance of advancing if they beat Japan because the best 2 3rd place teams will also advance. Fortunately, they haven’t conceded a lot of goals and 3 points and a decent goals aggregate will surely see them through to the next round


Cheers.

[akamoke]

There may be issues with Randy's formation/tactics, but when players struggle to control the ball and the calmness to pick the right pass then you're got big problems.

Who picked the players? And why don’t they similarly “struggle” in their respective clubs?!
We’ve played 6 games at the WC and Olympics under Coach Randy, and scored in only ONE game.

If players struggle with ball control and lack the calmness to consistently pick the right pass when playing for the national team is that the coach's fault??

Yes, the coach selected the players

[akamoke]

There may be issues with Randy's formation/tactics, but when players struggle to control the ball and the calmness to pick the right pass then you're got big problems.

Who picked the players? And why don’t they similarly “struggle” in their respective clubs?!
We’ve played 6 games at the WC and Olympics under Coach Randy, and scored in only ONE game.

If players struggle with ball control and lack the calmness to consistently pick the right pass when playing for the national team is that the coach's fault??

I see you conveniently ignored the point they don’t seem to so “struggle” at their clubs…
One therefore ponders why same players only appear to “struggle” when they play under the NT coach.

Anyway, either way, it’s the coach’s fault if he keeps selecting those players who supposedly “struggle” with basics.

Gotti, I see your point
Funny enough, I actually believe that Nigeria's issues trascends the coaching whether it was under Finidi or Waldrum

But I get your greater point that when it is a locla coach, we don't bat an eyelid to blame the coach but when it is a foreign coach we blame the players

Love the point on why players suddenly become ineffective when suiting up for the national team vs their clubs

That' my friend is the crux of the matter. In researching the answer to that question, we will truly uncover the real underlying issues with Nigerian football

[akamoke]

Played very well? You must have not watched the first half. We played like the only chance we had was to defend and then look for a counter. When we got to the counter, we couldn't do nada. The best time we had in the match was when number 18 came in (I'm not saying she changed the game, but the info given to Asisat by coach on the touchline seemed to create a positive change

That's Randy formation.

I'm curious. What did you expect us to do against Spain the world champs?

I expect us to win. I understand, everyone mindset is different.

That's not the question I asked you.

How did you expect us to go about getting a win against Spain?

I expect us to put the ball in the net.

Which is exactly our primary failure in this game, NOT the tactics of conceding possession and playing in a low block...

I would say conceding a goal in the dying minutes of a game where concentration is most needed especially as our defense is supposed to be our advantage

It was a crucial failure

[Lolly]

Nigeria has been having problems scoring goals.

Nigeria 3 Australia 2
Nigeria 0 England 0
Nigeria 1 Canada 1
Nigeria 1 South Africa 0
South Africa 0 Nigeria 0

It started at Afcon in Morocco. I had my concerns. You were saying the defensive record is good.

We are also not giving away goals. And that is the right strategy. We just need to find a way and the right players to be more effective in the 3rd half.