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danfo driver wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:52 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Chelle was twiddling his thumb, while Lolly, a fan, was watching the past games. Our fans are both toxic and funny.

And they also think football is 2+2 = 4. Just because his team sheet is showing 2 CMs, does not mean the game plan is that way. Lets wait to see the game plan unfold first and we will see/know who will dominate the midfield.

Exactly that. But people continually fail to understand the wisdom of getting all the information you possibly can before making an informed decision or in this case, taking an informed position.
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theDunamis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pmI was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.

You wonder if the new manager of a national team watched the previous games against the opponent he is going to face first??? Do you also wonder if the sun rises in the east and sets in the west? :D
No, I ask relevant questions that some can't see. Didn't a popular national coach who has many fans on this forum tell us how he pencilled in a player for selection for the SE based on recommendation from his assistants because he couldn't travel down from Abuja to Beni to watch him play? I wonder if some of you pay attention to what is going on? I doubt it.

Make we watch game and we can continue this debate afterwards. I will make a prediction though. Watch us revert to 3 in the middle later in the game when thinks are not working. Na me talk am. :roll:
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vancity eagle wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:23 pm Again if you must play 442 these are the players to do it.

I like how Chelle is playing Aina at leftback. I've wondered why other coaches never did this.

So far Chelle is a good coach based on these decisions.
Actually, a few have.

He is versatile, but I'd rather have him on the right if Zaidu is around.
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Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:02 pmNo, I ask relevant questions that some can't see. Didn't a popular national coach who has many fans on this forum tell us how he pencilled in a player for selection for the SE based on recommendation from his assistants because he couldn't travel down from Abuja to Beni to watch him play? I wonder if some of you pay attention to what is going on? I doubt it.

Make we watch game and we can continue this debate afterwards. I will make a prediction though. Watch us revert to 3 in the middle later in the game when thinks are not working. Na me talk am. :roll:

Strawman much. Traveling to watch a game and watching the video of a previous game are two completely different things from both effort and resource considerations. Stop digging. :D
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Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
I was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.
Lolly,

I feel the same way, including misgivings about the personnel. I was hoping for 3 center backs. However, I am not the manager nor have I watched the team train together. I was hoping for an entirely different set up.
This lineup can work so long as Lookman helps out with ball recovery centrally. You already know that Simon is a workhorse on the wing.
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green4life wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:07 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
I was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.
Lolly,

I feel the same way, including misgivings about the personnel. I was hoping for 3 center backs. However, I am not the manager nor have I watched the team train together. I was hoping for an entirely different set up.
This lineup can work so long as Lookman helps out with ball recovery centrally. You already know that Simon is a workhorse on the wing.
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Lookman does a lot of that and I have no doubt on that. My concern is the ability to lay siege on the opponents without having a safety mechanism with 3 CDs.
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How can you look at this list and say it's 4-4-2.
It's 4-2-4 that can switch to 4-2-3-1
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theDunamis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:07 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:02 pmNo, I ask relevant questions that some can't see. Didn't a popular national coach who has many fans on this forum tell us how he pencilled in a player for selection for the SE based on recommendation from his assistants because he couldn't travel down from Abuja to Beni to watch him play? I wonder if some of you pay attention to what is going on? I doubt it.

Make we watch game and we can continue this debate afterwards. I will make a prediction though. Watch us revert to 3 in the middle later in the game when thinks are not working. Na me talk am. :roll:

Strawman much. Traveling to watch a game and watching the video of a previous game are two completely different things from both effort and resource considerations. Stop digging. :D
You really think it's about effort and resources? No vex. :lol: :lol:
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One recognized DM??

Only two CBs??

In a MUST WIN away game in Africa under harsh weather conditions??

Rwanda dominated the midfield last time we met and are playing at home

This has heartache written all over it folks……if Finidi chose this lineup we would be all over him calling him naive

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vancity eagle wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:21 pm GK: NWABALI
RB: SAMUEL
CB: TROOST
CB: BASSEY
LB: AINA
CM: IWOBI
CM: NDIDI
RW: CHUKWUEZE
LW: SIMON
SS: LOOKMAN
ST: OSIMEHN
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Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:11 pm
green4life wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:07 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
I was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.
Lolly,

I feel the same way, including misgivings about the personnel. I was hoping for 3 center backs. However, I am not the manager nor have I watched the team train together. I was hoping for an entirely different set up.
This lineup can work so long as Lookman helps out with ball recovery centrally. You already know that Simon is a workhorse on the wing.
G4L

Lookman does a lot of that and I have no doubt on that. My concern is the ability to lay siege on the opponents without having a safety mechanism with 3 CDs.
Prof, We don't need 3 CDs especially with Ndidi at CDM. Positional discipline, defensive organization and midfield anticipation to fill gaps will balance the flow of the team.
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Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:11 pm
green4life wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:07 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
I was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.
Lolly,

I feel the same way, including misgivings about the personnel. I was hoping for 3 center backs. However, I am not the manager nor have I watched the team train together. I was hoping for an entirely different set up.
This lineup can work so long as Lookman helps out with ball recovery centrally. You already know that Simon is a workhorse on the wing.
G4L

Lookman does a lot of that and I have no doubt on that. My concern is the ability to lay siege on the opponents without having a safety mechanism with 3 CDs.
I would have loved the 3-5-2 for this game as well. Not sure why we are suddenly thin in Central Defence but the likes of Ndah and Agu getting in the mix and possibly Ajayi's return should help. Aina's value is enhanced when he is able to push forward from the right.

Looks like we will attack slightly more from the left in this game, with Aina on the left and Simon and Lookman both favouring that wing.

Hopefully, Chukwueze comes good today. He can be costly over the course of 90 minutes sometimes.
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Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:12 pmYou really think it's about effort and resources? No vex. :lol: :lol:

I addressed the false equivalence and strawman you tried to introduce instead of simply accepting that you made no sense in your initial post. :D
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anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
So how do you know it's not 424? You know the match has not started, right?
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truetalk wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:03 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:23 pm Again if you must play 442 these are the players to do it.

I like how Chelle is playing Aina at leftback. I've wondered why other coaches never did this.

So far Chelle is a good coach based on these decisions.
Actually, a few have.

He is versatile, but I'd rather have him on the right if Zaidu is around.
Rohr did it for a brief period then stopped.
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Good luck to the lads.
I hope they play with a sense of urgency.
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Wishing the SE the very best.

Personally think the line-up looks like something from the 90s. Even when he had legs, this would have a tall task for Ndidi. I feel desperately for Iwobi and the horrible role SE coaches ask him to play. Naija has so many energetic midfielders but we're stick in 2019. Even in 2019, at least Etebo brought some hustle in the middle.

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green4life wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:14 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:11 pm
green4life wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:07 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:50 pm
Lolly wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:44 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
I was apprehensive before but this line up has made it worse. Rwanda dominated us in the midfield when we've played against them with 3 in the middle. Now we are going 2 in the middle with a very slow Ndidi. I wonder if Chelle watched the videos of our previous games against them.

Make I just enjoy match.
Lolly,

I feel the same way, including misgivings about the personnel. I was hoping for 3 center backs. However, I am not the manager nor have I watched the team train together. I was hoping for an entirely different set up.
This lineup can work so long as Lookman helps out with ball recovery centrally. You already know that Simon is a workhorse on the wing.
G4L

Lookman does a lot of that and I have no doubt on that. My concern is the ability to lay siege on the opponents without having a safety mechanism with 3 CDs.
Prof, We don't need 3 CDs especially with Ndidi at CDM. Positional discipline, defensive organization and midfield anticipation to fill gaps will balance the flow of the team.
The setup is intriguing. It is almost like Chelle is challenging the team to win individual matches over the course of the game, with a mindset of 'You are better than this team in every position and at every matchup'.

Troost and Bassey have zero margin for error. Not sure how much I trust Osayi Samuel to stay solid for 90 minutes, especially with Chukwueze in front of him.

Hopefully, these Eagles wearing green come good like the Eagles that wore green in the Superbowl a few weeks back. Different sport but similar strategy of several players just individually dominating the opponent. No blitzes, but 6 sacks with the front four dominating KC's O'Line. 2 guys making key picks (with one pick 6), and on the offense, the QB and WRs making big plays in the first 3 quarters.

The SE must play as a team with no lapses, but several players need big moments with this formation.
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danfo driver wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm
Synopsis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:30 pm
danfo driver wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:27 pm
Synopsis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:25 pm My issue is the lack of wingers on the bench and being too open defensively.
why do you want a winger on the bench? do we get extra points for that?
You act like injuries don’t happen. What happens when it’s 0-0 late in the game and our players are tired? Who would you bring in?
Is there a FIFA rule that says you are only permitted to bring in wingers from the bench?

Do you know that in football, some coaches play multiple formation in one match?

Do you know that in football, a coach can decide he doesnt want/need certain profile on the bench?
Ok mr. tactician, what would you do if Simon and Chukwueze need to be subbed out?
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Synopsis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:31 pm
danfo driver wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm
Synopsis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:30 pm
danfo driver wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:27 pm
Synopsis wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:25 pm My issue is the lack of wingers on the bench and being too open defensively.
why do you want a winger on the bench? do we get extra points for that?
You act like injuries don’t happen. What happens when it’s 0-0 late in the game and our players are tired? Who would you bring in?
Is there a FIFA rule that says you are only permitted to bring in wingers from the bench?

Do you know that in football, some coaches play multiple formation in one match?

Do you know that in football, a coach can decide he doesnt want/need certain profile on the bench?
Ok mr. tactician, what would you do if Simon and Chukwueze need to be subbed out?
i can change tactics and bring in a striker, or I can move Iwobi to wing - Iwobi has been one of the best wingers in the EPL this season - outperforming Chukwueze and Simon.
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GOOOOALLLLLLL VICTORRRR!!! :thumbs:
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gochino wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:18 pm
anointed wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm We are back to 4-4-2 vs Rwanda
Are these players used to it? Has anyone of them played 4-4-2 before?
I know it's attacking and we need it but the midfield, eh

................Lookman..............Osimhen............

Chukwueze...........Ndidi........Iwobi..........Simon.......


.....Aina.......Ekong.....Bassey..........Osayi-Samuel...........


................................Nwabali...................................
So how do you know it's not 424? You know the match has not started, right?
4-4-2 and 4-2-4 are football semantics. It's basically the same thing.
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